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PrintableChristopher said: those old tracks were
 No, they weren't. | |
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ernestsewell said: Christopher said: those old tracks were
No, they weren't. haha ok | |
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Christopher said: love2thenines2003 said: From a reliable source who works for WB: Last year, there was an early project and discussions/meeting with Prince & WB, with deluxe versions, unreleased ( like Pussy Power from the Black Album sessions), no beep on f. .. & S. .. words, but Prince has demanded a delirium amount of Dollars for each album remastered...so for the moment end of the story!! Pussy Power? need more info! yeah,I never heard of that song before. | |
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This is ONLY my opinion, but I believe mundane consumer software will actually remaster songs for us in the very near future.
It's not completely ludicris to assume software will be come so sophisticated that you can opt for a setting just like you can today with "live", "pop", "rock", "spoken word", etc. etc., but the option would be "remaster" and get a truly amazing output. It wont sound amazing at first, but given a few years it would be. Creative Labs is already releasing players that 'fill in the gaps' of lossy file formats like mp3 and wma to sound more like the originals. Technology will ultimately be a very interesting interim solution not to far away in the distant future. | |
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TRON said: DoffieParker said: i'd love him 2 remaster his oldies, but only if he takes them by the scruff of the neck & drags them in2 the new whenever. like what he done with little red corvette, coachella/montreux stylee
 That would be a remake instead of a remaster though, and I'd rather he keep those in a live setting. oh yeah, like a remix type of thingy. too sexy in a live setting but i wouldn't complain at something from the studio AT ALL! | |
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Graycap23 said: 
Prince will have complete ownership of the 80's material by 2023. Depending on his frame of mind at that time, we hopefully will have exposed 2 some remastered material. At this point it is a crap shoot as I don't believe he intends on WB making a dime off of his work if he can help it. He has held out this long, a few more years (in his mind) won't hurt. I will be 64 in 2023 and funky as I am, I doubt I'm going to be much interested in remastered stuff by then. | |
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RodeoSchro said: Graycap23 said:
Prince will have complete ownership of the 80's material by 2023. Depending on his frame of mind at that time, we hopefully will have exposed 2 some remastered material. At this point it is a crap shoot as I don't believe he intends on WB making a dime off of his work if he can help it. He has held out this long, a few more years (in his mind) won't hurt. I will be 64 in 2023 and funky as I am, I doubt I'm going to be much interested in remastered stuff by then. I hear ya!  By 2023,many of us will be too old to really enjoy the remasters.He needs to stop procrastinating and remaster these albums NOW. | |
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RodeoSchro said: I will be 64 in 2023 and funky as I am, I doubt I'm going to be much interested in remastered stuff by then. Will you still need P? Will you still feed P? When you're sixty-four | |
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ernestsewell said: DoffieParker said: i'd love him 2 remaster his oldies, but only if he takes them by the scruff of the neck & drags them in2 the new whenever. like what he done with little red corvette, coachella/montreux stylee
If he's going to rework the songs, then I'd rather just keep what's already out. It's like trying to reengineer your grown child. It's stupid. If he wants to rerecord the songs, like KISS and others have done, then fine. But don't fuck with the originals. but we/he will always have the originals even if he fucks with them! i just love how he modernized little red corvette at the live shows & the different arrangements with purple rain & all the critics i think his iconic songs are fundamentally good & will always sound good no matter how he flips them out | |
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DoffieParker said: ernestsewell said: If he's going to rework the songs, then I'd rather just keep what's already out. It's like trying to reengineer your grown child. It's stupid. If he wants to rerecord the songs, like KISS and others have done, then fine. But don't fuck with the originals. but we/he will always have the originals even if he fucks with them! i just love how he modernized little red corvette at the live shows & the different arrangements with purple rain & all the critics i think his iconic songs are fundamentally good & will always sound good no matter how he flips them out In the late 90s,there were reports that he was re-recording his entire catalog.I wouldn't have bought those albums  I want fresh remasters of the original albums (cuss words included,lol),but NOT re-recorded albums. | |
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SoulAlive said: DoffieParker said: but we/he will always have the originals even if he fucks with them! i just love how he modernized little red corvette at the live shows & the different arrangements with purple rain & all the critics i think his iconic songs are fundamentally good & will always sound good no matter how he flips them out In the late 90s,there were reports that he was re-recording his entire catalog.I wouldn't have bought those albums I want fresh remasters of the original albums (cuss words included,lol),but NOT re-recorded albums.i remember hearing something that had been re recorded, was it the song 1999? whatever it was i wouldn't say it was as good as original, but this is 2010 & i'd love to hear his modern interpretation of somde of the classics & oh yeah, i'd like the remastered originals as well! [Edited 5/19/10 5:49am] | |
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SoulAlive said: RodeoSchro said: I will be 64 in 2023 and funky as I am, I doubt I'm going to be much interested in remastered stuff by then. I hear ya! By 2023,many of us will be too old to really enjoy the remasters.He needs to stop procrastinating and remaster these albums NOW.I don't disagree with either of u.....but this is Prince that we are talking about. 2 him....time is irrelevant. | |
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Graycap23 said: SoulAlive said: I hear ya! By 2023,many of us will be too old to really enjoy the remasters.He needs to stop procrastinating and remaster these albums NOW.I don't disagree with either of u.....but this is Prince that we are talking about. 2 him....time is irrelevant. that's true  | |
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DoffieParker said: ernestsewell said: If he's going to rework the songs, then I'd rather just keep what's already out. It's like trying to reengineer your grown child. It's stupid. If he wants to rerecord the songs, like KISS and others have done, then fine. But don't fuck with the originals. but we/he will always have the originals even if he fucks with them! i just love how he modernized little red corvette at the live shows & the different arrangements with purple rain & all the critics i think his iconic songs are fundamentally good & will always sound good no matter how he flips them out That statement is fundamentally flawed. | |
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ernestsewell said: DoffieParker said: but we/he will always have the originals even if he fucks with them! i just love how he modernized little red corvette at the live shows & the different arrangements with purple rain & all the critics i think his iconic songs are fundamentally good & will always sound good no matter how he flips them out That statement is fundamentally flawed. oh well, why not go ahead & enlighten me mighty oracle  | |
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DoffieParker said: ernestsewell said: That statement is fundamentally flawed. oh well, why not go ahead & enlighten me mighty oracle When you can stop being uptight and defensive, I'm happy to talk with you. Until then...  | |
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Graycap23 said: SoulAlive said: I hear ya! By 2023,many of us will be too old to really enjoy the remasters.He needs to stop procrastinating and remaster these albums NOW.I don't disagree with either of u.....but this is Prince that we are talking about. 2 him....time is irrelevant. It ain't so irrelevant when he's applying the shoe-polish black hair-dye to hide the gray. [Edited 5/20/10 0:01am] | |
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This shit is ridiculous. The guy has fans who would be clamoring to the stores, newspapers, concerts...however he wants to release this stuff, but because he doesn't live in the past, we get no satisfaction. Because he doesnt swear anymore, we cant hear a remastered Erotic City.
The part I dont get is how WB owns the rights to it all, yet Prince has say so on tracklists, etc. I would think that WB would tell Prince to go screw himself and make the money. I mean, when Michael Jackson bought the Beatles catalog and sold "Revolution" to Nike for a commercial, McCartney had a fit...and couldnt do a damned thing about it. Different deal, I know, but it seems to me the WB should have more power. I know this sounds horrible, but it is wrong to eagerly await Prince's death?   She has robes and she has monkeys, lazy diamond studded flunkies.... | |
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I know this sounds horrible, but it is wrong to eagerly await Prince's death?[/quote]
I think that statement's more than a little ghoulish just because you feel the need to have more Prince music. If his financial situation's what I've read in other posts than it would make sense for him to considor re-releasing his back catalogue, though I think the time for him to have done so while making the biggest impact in terms of sales has passed. There was some kind of resurgence of 80s nostalgia a while back that he could have capitalized on but didn't for whatever his reasons truly are. I'm sure someday we'll hear his remasters/rerecordings, but another post here struck a tone with me that said his will may state that all his masters be destroyed. Just from what I read of his decisions makes me think that this is indeed a possibility that could come to fruition. "Hold on to ur souls y'all." | |
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prince has a lot of music ... he would rather work on new music than repackage old music ... but that does not mean he wont ... its just for a guy who puts his heart an soul into new music all the time there just is not room for sitting around resequencing old tracks ... plus there is soooo much i am sure it is confusing even to himself to make decisions
but in short ... yes it is wrong to wish prince would die so u can get a clean version of some bootleg song ... in fact is it beyond selfish to think that way and u will go to hell for it | |
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ernestsewell said: WB owns the masters from 1978-1996 (through Chaos and Disorder), plus "The Vault: Old Friends 4 Sale", and all three greatest hits packages. Prince probably holds the master on the 1800NewFunk and The Beautiful Experience disks.
Everything from Emancipation onward is his. However, after 35 years (I think), the master ownership reverts back to Prince. But, it's only one album at a time. So For You's ownership reverts to Prince in 2013. The Prince album in 2014. Dirty Mind is 2015. Controversy in 2016, etc etc. I've said this before and I stick by it: The vault stuff won't come out, and no remasters will ever happen until Prince dies. He still can say yes or no to stuff WB might own and want to release, or even has say so over a track list for a greatest hits package. ULTIMATE was a bit different before Prince got his sticky fingers on it, and changed it around, and omitted stuff like "Erotic City" and "Sexy MF". The guy compiling it wanted it to go in chronological order, and Prince wanted it divided up into A-sides and B-sides. Guess who won that one? & that boys and girls is the reason you don't sign recording contracts ... Peace ... & Stay Funky ...
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TrevorAyer said: prince has a lot of music ... he would rather work on new music than repackage old music ... but that does not mean he wont ... its just for a guy who puts his heart an soul into new music all the time there just is not room for sitting around resequencing old tracks ... plus there is soooo much i am sure it is confusing even to himself to make decisions
but in short ... yes it is wrong to wish prince would die so u can get a clean version of some bootleg song ... in fact is it beyond selfish to think that way and u will go to hell for it I know that's horrible...but I meant it sarcastically. Still, no excuse. She has robes and she has monkeys, lazy diamond studded flunkies.... | |
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Thinking aloud, I wonder if Prince has little financial incentive to re-master the back catalog or issue songs from the vault. If done well, sure many of us would buy them, but realistically those releases are going to be plastered all over torrent sites within a day. The heyday of artists making a fortune solely from "record" sales is over (much as it was before the '70's).
If Prince were to put all this out it would be more as a "Thanks" to his loyal fan base than as a huge profit-making venture, but we know how he's treated his fans over the past 15 years or so... | |
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ernestsewell said: WB owns the masters from 1978-1996 (through Chaos and Disorder), plus "The Vault: Old Friends 4 Sale", and all three greatest hits packages. Prince probably holds the master on the 1800NewFunk and The Beautiful Experience disks.
Everything from Emancipation onward is his. However, after 35 years (I think), the master ownership reverts back to Prince. But, it's only one album at a time. So For You's ownership reverts to Prince in 2013. The Prince album in 2014. Dirty Mind is 2015. Controversy in 2016, etc etc. I've said this before and I stick by it: The vault stuff won't come out, and no remasters will ever happen until Prince dies. He still can say yes or no to stuff WB might own and want to release, or even has say so over a track list for a greatest hits package. ULTIMATE was a bit different before Prince got his sticky fingers on it, and changed it around, and omitted stuff like "Erotic City" and "Sexy MF". The guy compiling it wanted it to go in chronological order, and Prince wanted it divided up into A-sides and B-sides. Guess who won that one? Wasn't The Ultimate the last greatest hits package that Warner's can release of Prince? Also your comment about the The Vault material coming out after Prince passes away(which I hate to say). I believe is true after a conversation I had with one of Prince's ex dancers. That confirmed why he records so much material and films so many videos and never releases it. Also I believe the remasters will happen after Prince starts getting his masters back.  will ALWAYS think of  like a "ACT OF GOD"! N another realm. mean of all people who might of been aliens or angels.if found out that wasn't of this earth, would not have been that surprised. R.I.P. |
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