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Thread started 05/07/10 11:36am

Gangstaglam

Was Rick James justified in his hatred of Prince?

Rick has always stated Prince copied his style. Prince got his start as an opening act for Rick. Rick claimed Prince had no stage presence at the time and copied his style.....this maybe true, but at the time Prince wasn't "Purple Rain" Prince yet...the style that got him world wide notoriety had nothing to do with Rick's thigh high boot,braided hair,feather boa wearing style...but even in the later years he still claimed Prince was a Rick James ripoff...is this a valid point or was Rick's ego getting the best of him? I'm a fan of both so R.I.P. Rick btw...
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Reply #1 posted 05/07/10 11:41am

TheVoid

I don't know about that, but Rick could never hate Prince as much as Prince hates his fans.




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Reply #2 posted 05/07/10 11:43am

nursev

TheVoid said:

I don't know about that, but Rick could never hate Prince as much as Prince hates his fans.







lol You been saying that for years and he loves us lol and no Rick was not justified-they both did their things. Prince just did his alittle better lol
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Reply #3 posted 05/07/10 11:46am

TheVoid

nursev said:

TheVoid said:

I don't know about that, but Rick could never hate Prince as much as Prince hates his fans.







lol You been saying that for years and he loves us lol and no Rick was not justified-they both did their things. Prince just did his alittle better lol



You know what.
I didn't want this to have to get personal but:









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Reply #4 posted 05/07/10 11:48am

nursev

TheVoid said:

nursev said:




lol You been saying that for years and he loves us lol and no Rick was not justified-they both did their things. Prince just did his alittle better lol



You know what.
I didn't want this to have to get personal but:












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Reply #5 posted 05/07/10 12:23pm

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Gangstaglam said:

Rick has always stated Prince copied his style. Prince got his start as an opening act for Rick. Rick claimed Prince had no stage presence at the time and copied his style.....this maybe true, but at the time Prince wasn't "Purple Rain" Prince yet...the style that got him world wide notoriety had nothing to do with Rick's thigh high boot,braided hair,feather boa wearing style...but even in the later years he still claimed Prince was a Rick James ripoff...is this a valid point or was Rick's ego getting the best of him? I'm a fan of both so R.I.P. Rick btw...


http://thewowjonesreport....vs-prince/

I'd say so. I love them both as well.
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Reply #6 posted 05/07/10 2:07pm

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TheVoid said:

I don't know about that, but Rick could never hate Prince as much as Prince hates his fans.






i like this sig wink lol
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Reply #7 posted 05/07/10 2:35pm

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TheVoid said:

I don't know about that, but Rick could never hate Prince as much as Prince hates his fans.






I wouldn't say he "hates" us but you TheVoid, this sh!t is crazy tired ...
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Reply #8 posted 05/07/10 2:59pm

Erika2k8

Gangstaglam said:

Rick has always stated Prince copied his style. Prince got his start as an opening act for Rick. Rick claimed Prince had no stage presence at the time and copied his style.....this maybe true, but at the time Prince wasn't "Purple Rain" Prince yet...the style that got him world wide notoriety had nothing to do with Rick's thigh high boot,braided hair,feather boa wearing style...but even in the later years he still claimed Prince was a Rick James ripoff...is this a valid point or was Rick's ego getting the best of him? I'm a fan of both so R.I.P. Rick btw...


I read his (rick's)bio/watched most of his interviews and he admited there was some jelousy there, hes only human. But he praised Prince for being so innovative. Yes prince used to jump around back stage at R.J and M.J's concerts getting attention and there were a few times R.J wanted to "whoop his ass" but i think they both respected eachothers artistry.

I don't think he hated Prince at all, and yes he did steal certain crowd chants rick did during the tour in which even Princes manager had to tell him to stop

And I to love them both but Rick was just being honest.
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Reply #9 posted 05/07/10 3:29pm

Paris9748430

It's funny how Rick says Prince stole his act when on the recent Unsung episode of the Bar Kays, they talked about how Rick would come to their shows and take pictures of Larry Dodson and patterned a lot of his act after him.

Prince most likely took from Rick in the early days. Just like Rick wound up taking from Prince in the mid to late '80's.
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Reply #10 posted 05/07/10 3:30pm

aarontj

Erika2k8 said:

Gangstaglam said:

Rick has always stated Prince copied his style. Prince got his start as an opening act for Rick. Rick claimed Prince had no stage presence at the time and copied his style.....this maybe true, but at the time Prince wasn't "Purple Rain" Prince yet...the style that got him world wide notoriety had nothing to do with Rick's thigh high boot,braided hair,feather boa wearing style...but even in the later years he still claimed Prince was a Rick James ripoff...is this a valid point or was Rick's ego getting the best of him? I'm a fan of both so R.I.P. Rick btw...


I read his (rick's)bio/watched most of his interviews and he admited there was some jelousy there, hes only human. But he praised Prince for being so innovative. Yes prince used to jump around back stage at R.J and M.J's concerts getting attention and there were a few times R.J wanted to "whoop his ass" but i think they both respected eachothers artistry.

I don't think he hated Prince at all, and yes he did steal certain crowd chants rick did during the tour in which even Princes manager had to tell him to stop

And I to love them both but Rick was just being honest.
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Rick James use to say many things about many celebrities, doesn't mean is true. BTW there isn't one Prince track or style that look or sound like RJ.

RIP Rick James. Long live the King of funk: Prince.
"I have so much love for Prince. But why don't they look at me that way"- MJ
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Reply #11 posted 05/07/10 4:26pm

Erika2k8

aarontj said:

Erika2k8 said:



I read his (rick's)bio/watched most of his interviews and he admited there was some jelousy there, hes only human. But he praised Prince for being so innovative. Yes prince used to jump around back stage at R.J and M.J's concerts getting attention and there were a few times R.J wanted to "whoop his ass" but i think they both respected eachothers artistry.

I don't think he hated Prince at all, and yes he did steal certain crowd chants rick did during the tour in which even Princes manager had to tell him to stop

And I to love them both but Rick was just being honest.
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Rick James use to say many things about many celebrities, doesn't mean is true. BTW there isn't one Prince track or style that look or sound like RJ.

RIP Rick James. Long live the King of funk: Prince.


lool I didnt say that so keep your lace wig on. The only things I THOUGHT where true that Rick said was everything I mentioned, nothing more nothing less. As a young entertainer at the time watching rick who was an amazing performer must have influenced him on some level.
"NO WAY!!!!!: I DONT AGREE::BITCH FIT IN FULL EFFECT yadayada:: Guess what.... its my opinion. And to me theres some Prince songs that do have a Rick James vibe to it; whether Prince did it consciously or not. Besides its silly to assume everyone will gather the same thing from a song.
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Reply #12 posted 05/07/10 4:34pm

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Rick stole his look from Larry Dotson of the Bar-Kays.
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Reply #13 posted 05/07/10 5:56pm

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Prince stole Vanity. Rick stole the ruffles.

I had no idea Rick got his style from Sisqo's Dad. (Larry Dodson.)

[Edited 5/7/10 18:02pm]
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Reply #14 posted 05/07/10 6:57pm

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aarontj said:

Erika2k8 said:



I read his (rick's)bio/watched most of his interviews and he admited there was some jelousy there, hes only human. But he praised Prince for being so innovative. Yes prince used to jump around back stage at R.J and M.J's concerts getting attention and there were a few times R.J wanted to "whoop his ass" but i think they both respected eachothers artistry.

I don't think he hated Prince at all, and yes he did steal certain crowd chants rick did during the tour in which even Princes manager had to tell him to stop

And I to love them both but Rick was just being honest.
[Edited 5/7/10 15:03pm]



Rick James use to say many things about many celebrities, doesn't mean is true. BTW there isn't one Prince track or style that look or sound like RJ.

RIP Rick James. Long live the King of funk: Prince.

"BTW there isn't one Prince track or style that look or sound like RJ.

Been saying this for years. Rick was smoking some good weed because the two only had the fact that were black and controversial in common. The look and the music were totally different.
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Reply #15 posted 05/07/10 8:14pm

nursev

carlcranshaw said:

Prince stole Vanity. Rick stole the ruffles.

I had no idea Rick got his style from Sisqo's Dad. (Larry Dodson.)

[Edited 5/7/10 18:02pm]



me either eek
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Reply #16 posted 05/07/10 8:28pm

Paris9748430

nursev said:

carlcranshaw said:

Prince stole Vanity. Rick stole the ruffles.

I had no idea Rick got his style from Sisqo's Dad. (Larry Dodson.)

[Edited 5/7/10 18:02pm]



me either eek



Yup, they talked about it on the Bar Kays Unsung episode on TV One.



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Reply #17 posted 05/07/10 8:31pm

nursev

Paris9748430 said:

nursev said:




me either eek



Yup, they talked about it on the Bar Kays Unsung episode on TV One.



Oh I see eek So Sisquo's dad was a Barkay-the things you find out on the Org lol
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Reply #18 posted 05/07/10 8:40pm

Paris9748430

nursev said:

Paris9748430 said:




Yup, they talked about it on the Bar Kays Unsung episode on TV One.



Oh I see eek So Sisquo's dad was a Barkay-the things you find out on the Org lol



Sisqo isn't really Larry's son. I think someone's saying they're similar enough where Larry could be his Dad.
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Reply #19 posted 05/07/10 8:41pm

nursev

Paris9748430 said:

nursev said:




Oh I see eek So Sisquo's dad was a Barkay-the things you find out on the Org lol



Sisqo isn't really Larry's son. I think someone's saying they're similar enough where Larry could be his Dad.


Okay cool-thanks for explaining that wink
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Reply #20 posted 05/08/10 12:03am

TheVoid

PurpleLove7 said:

TheVoid said:

I don't know about that, but Rick could never hate Prince as much as Prince hates his fans.






I wouldn't say he "hates" us but you TheVoid, this sh!t is crazy tired ...

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Reply #21 posted 05/08/10 3:20am

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carlcranshaw said:

Prince stole Vanity. Rick stole the ruffles.

I had no idea Rick got his style from Sisqo's Dad. (Larry Dodson.)

[Edited 5/7/10 18:02pm]


Prince AND Rick stole the ruffles from Adam Ant, who stole it from Sly Stone, who stole it from The Beatles, who stole it from George Washington & Benedict Arnold (two men that hated each other more than Prince & Rick ever did).

Just saying.
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Reply #22 posted 05/08/10 4:33am

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TonyVanDam said:

carlcranshaw said:

Prince stole Vanity. Rick stole the ruffles.

I had no idea Rick got his style from Sisqo's Dad. (Larry Dodson.)

[Edited 5/7/10 18:02pm]


Prince AND Rick stole the ruffles from Adam Ant, who stole it from Sly Stone, who stole it from The Beatles, who stole it from George Washington & Benedict Arnold (two men that hated each other more than Prince & Rick ever did).

Just saying.


That's humorous and quite true.

And of course Adam got some of his inspiration elsewhere as well.






But as a variation of the "MJ changed music. Quincy changed blonds." quote I'll take poetic license and say: "Prince stole Vanity. Rick stole the ruffles."


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Reply #23 posted 05/08/10 9:39am

Erika2k8

laurarichardson said:

aarontj said:




Rick James use to say many things about many celebrities, doesn't mean is true. BTW there isn't one Prince track or style that look or sound like RJ.

RIP Rick James. Long live the King of funk: Prince.

"BTW there isn't one Prince track or style that look or sound like RJ.

Been saying this for years. Rick was smoking some good weed because the two only had the fact that were black and controversial in common. The look and the music were totally different.


I know, but the vibe of some Prince songs remind me of rick james, they dont sound exactly the same, I repeat for the slow ones, THEY DONT SOUND EXACTLY THE SAME.
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Reply #24 posted 05/08/10 9:46am

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There is no such thing as originality anyways. Everyone takes from something, someone, to get their inspiration. I just think Rick was mad Prince passed him
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Reply #25 posted 05/08/10 10:12am

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Erika2k8 said:

laurarichardson said:


"BTW there isn't one Prince track or style that look or sound like RJ.

Been saying this for years. Rick was smoking some good weed because the two only had the fact that were black and controversial in common. The look and the music were totally different.


I know, but the vibe of some Prince songs remind me of rick james, they dont sound exactly the same, I repeat for the slow ones, THEY DONT SOUND EXACTLY THE SAME.

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Not even the same vibe with these two. biggrin
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Reply #26 posted 05/08/10 10:22am

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according to dr funkenberry's latest 'wrap up' prince was code named Rick at the time gala. he had Rick on his dressing room door to ensure his privacy..Rick! lol confuse
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Reply #27 posted 05/08/10 12:33pm

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Paris9748430 said:

nursev said:




Oh I see eek So Sisquo's dad was a Barkay-the things you find out on the Org lol



Sisqo isn't really Larry's son. I think someone's saying they're similar enough where Larry could be his Dad.

Oh damn, cuz I was about to say. eek lol
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Reply #28 posted 05/08/10 1:08pm

Erika2k8

laurarichardson said:

Erika2k8 said:



I know, but the vibe of some Prince songs remind me of rick james, they dont sound exactly the same, I repeat for the slow ones, THEY DONT SOUND EXACTLY THE SAME.

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Not even the same vibe with these two. biggrin


Well then thats your opinion, not mine ..what a controller lol lol
I kinda like it headbangspank
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Reply #29 posted 05/08/10 5:20pm

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Erika2k8 said:

laurarichardson said:


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Not even the same vibe with these two. biggrin


Well then thats your opinion, not mine ..what a controller lol lol
I kinda like it headbangspank
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Wow I express my opinion and I am a controller. Get off the drugs because you got to be on them if you any similarity in P and Rick's music.
If anything later on in the late 80s Rick stole P's song and clothes.
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