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Reply #60 posted 05/01/10 2:32pm

JesusFreak

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The outro of LRC's dance mix. Why it drowns in a minor key is beyond me.
totally had my hopes up for a continuation of more belting melodies
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Reply #61 posted 05/01/10 2:48pm

NDRU

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Take the song U're Gonna C Me

"There's never a minute I find
that U don't ever cross my mind"

I feel like that line uses way too many words to say such a simple thing--"you are always on my mind" And the extra words are not descriptive enough to add much poetry to it. He uses two negatives (never & don't) & extra words (I find) to flesh out the rhythm of it. It's not wrong, there are no rules, but poetry isn't about over-complicating thoughts, it tries to convey thoughts in the most effective way possible.

On the other hand "give me a page on my two way/I'll hit U back with no delay" might not be my favorite line, but it's not in need of editing in the sense that I am talking about. The line makes sense and gets the point across perfectly.
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Reply #62 posted 05/01/10 2:50pm

NDRU

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JesusFreak said:

The outro of LRC's dance mix. Why it drowns in a minor key is beyond me.
totally had my hopes up for a continuation of more belting melodies
[Edited 5/1/10 14:33pm]



I saw you posted that before! smile I want to reply, but I haven't heard that version!
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Reply #63 posted 05/01/10 2:54pm

NDRU

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twistee said:

THINGS TO REMOVE:
I Rock Therefore I Am: nix the stupid "show me your titties" line.


lol agreed
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Reply #64 posted 05/01/10 3:13pm

MrShockadelica

I love the way Prince sounds live. I would try to capture that more on recordings if I was given a chance to produce an album. Every time I get an album I find the songs I love, then when I hear a live version later I just go crazy and think why doesn't it sound like that on the album. Examples: Housequake, Fury, Feel Better, Facedown, and many others.
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Reply #65 posted 05/01/10 3:16pm

ernestsewell

twistee said:

THINGS TO REMOVE:
I Rock Therefore I Am: nix the stupid "show me your titties" line.

I nixed the whole rap in general. After the chorus, it goes right into the 2nd verse, and is 100x better for it.
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Reply #66 posted 05/01/10 4:20pm

Christopher

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The castle started spinning
Or maybe it was my brain
I can't tell u what she did 2 me
But my body will never be the same
Her lovin will kick your behind
Oh, shell show u no mercy
But shell shonuff shonuff show u how 2 grind

i always hated this. messed up the flow lol. i like it as it is in purple rain.
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Reply #67 posted 05/01/10 5:41pm

ernestsewell

Christopher said:

The castle started spinning
Or maybe it was my brain
I can't tell u what she did 2 me
But my body will never be the same
Her lovin will kick your behind
Oh, shell show u no mercy
But shell shonuff shonuff show u how 2 grind

i always hated this. messed up the flow lol. i like it as it is in purple rain.

I like that verse. It's kinda trippy and gives a euphoric idea to the story.
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Reply #68 posted 05/01/10 9:10pm

lotusboy

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ernestsewell said:

lotusboy said:

Yet u continue to brag about "cutting off his fins" (i.e. editing down his music the way he wanted it to sound..) I'll be damned,,,your the WB of the ORG buddy!

Get off my dick, you're getting boring. And remember that the next time you listen to a Prince album on shuffle, or skip a track because you don't care for it (and don't tell me you never have skipped a track, cuz you're a liar if you say so). Skipping a track or even listening to something in a different order is the same thing as me editing a track and getting rid of Tony M. or some other lame ass rapper. It's not how Prince wanted you to hear the album, and when you change that up, you're no better than me editing stuff.

No one brags. The point of the thread is to "fix" Prince's music. I offered what I did.

By the way, your comparison to the song and my editing is far-fetched at best.


Your excuses for doing the chopping up and cutting off Prince's fins, so to speak,are lame and weak. AND I think u meant get off my jock, not your dick, thats nasty, there are ladies on the org..show a lil respect. AND I'll GET OFF YOUR JOCK WHEN U GET OFF OF prince's.AND I bet if the music U make was publicly consumed, and people bragged about editing it down cuz they didn't like your final mix, you would cry and throw things. ho hum.
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Reply #69 posted 05/01/10 9:19pm

lotusboy

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NDRU said:

**fam disclaimer** This is not intended to be negative, as I'm sure it will be seen. I'm not saying I could do better or that his music is broken, it's just a little editing exercise. smile

But we have all read so many criticisms of his music, but very few are actually constructive. Many of us are writers, musicians, and could easily be that editor that Prince so often could benefit from.

So instead of just saying "it sucks" how about a specific suggestion of how to fix something you're not crazy about. Either lyrical, musical, sonic, etc.

I'll start:

I quite like the song Last December, but the beginning has always bothered me a little. He says:

"If your last December...[big pause]...came what would you do?"

I have always wanted him to say

"If your last December came...[big pause]...what would you do?"

It's such a simple change that makes the meaning of the lyrics more obvious and more conversational in the context of the music.

anyone else?
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[Edited 4/29/10 14:21pm]


U should have put a disclaimer to Ernestwell, U know he has chopped up Prince songs, and probably plays them to people who may not know the difference, thats misrepresenting P..dont u think? Its ok to have ideas, but unless your an idiot from WB, stop being a butcher.
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Reply #70 posted 05/02/10 6:13am

ernestsewell

lotusboy said:

Your excuses for doing the chopping up and cutting off Prince's fins, so to speak,are lame and weak. AND I think u meant get off my jock, not your dick, thats nasty, there are ladies on the org..show a lil respect. AND I'll GET OFF YOUR JOCK WHEN U GET OFF OF prince's.AND I bet if the music U make was publicly consumed, and people bragged about editing it down cuz they didn't like your final mix, you would cry and throw things. ho hum.

LOL Listen little boy with too much time on his hands - I couldn't give two shits if you or anyone else likes or dislikes the edits I've done. I do them for ME. You will never change that, nor will anyone else - not even Prince himmotherfuckingself. "Misrepresenting Prince" blahblah HAHAHAHA chatterbox That is hysterical!!! Like I'm some manager or press agent for the man. Stop trying to play at the big boy's table. It makes you look nutso and very hypocritical.
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Reply #71 posted 05/02/10 7:28am

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I hate how so many of his songs END. why can't they go on forever?
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Reply #72 posted 05/02/10 8:55am

Dave1992

I'm not saying this because I don't want to "change God's words and law" or some shit like that; I simply don't like the concept of changing a piece of art, which is always complete and finished as it is. Music is not a comsumption product that can be thrown away and dealt with however much me want (even if the age of digital, downloadable music makes many people believe it is).

If you don't like it, don't buy it. If you think you can make it sound better, make a cover version and prove it. It's as simple as that.
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Reply #73 posted 05/02/10 11:11am

ernestsewell

OnlyNDaUsa said:

I hate how so many of his songs END. why can't they go on forever?

One thing I noticed looking back is that every song on Purple Rainexcept one has a definite ending. Most do on 1999 as well. The PR stuff had to because they were going to be performances for the most part. Same with a lot of the stuff on Parade. I like that songs have an ending. It doesn't make me want it to go on. I can love it from start to the definite finish. Fades are almost a tease; case in point being "How Come U Don't Call Me Anymore?"
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Reply #74 posted 05/02/10 11:35am

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To remove from P's art is like removing the eyes from the Mona Lisa.

Klick
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Reply #75 posted 05/02/10 5:59pm

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ernestsewell said:

lotusboy said:

Your excuses for doing the chopping up and cutting off Prince's fins, so to speak,are lame and weak. AND I think u meant get off my jock, not your dick, thats nasty, there are ladies on the org..show a lil respect. AND I'll GET OFF YOUR JOCK WHEN U GET OFF OF prince's.AND I bet if the music U make was publicly consumed, and people bragged about editing it down cuz they didn't like your final mix, you would cry and throw things. ho hum.

LOL Listen little boy with too much time on his hands - I couldn't give two shits if you or anyone else likes or dislikes the edits I've done. I do them for ME. You will never change that, nor will anyone else - not even Prince himmotherfuckingself. "Misrepresenting Prince" blahblah HAHAHAHA chatterbox That is hysterical!!! Like I'm some manager or press agent for the man. Stop trying to play at the big boy's table. It makes you look nutso and very hypocritical.


First of all, stop trying to insult me because of my age...im not clowning you personally...just your feeble attempts at re-working Prince's work. Im sure u have seen the Batman movie with Nicholson as the joker...your exactly like him..defacing art...it's kind of sick bro, thats all me and a lot of people on here are saying. keep your ageism to yourself...besides, u dont even really know my age...u look silly assuming my age just cuz the word "boy" is in my screenname. and u never responded to the fact that if someone re-worked your songs, how u would feel...but im sure you'll just say "i don't care"..blah blah blah. triteful bit pedestrian of u, son.
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Reply #76 posted 05/02/10 5:59pm

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NDRU said:

JesusFreak said:

The outro of LRC's dance mix. Why it drowns in a minor key is beyond me.
totally had my hopes up for a continuation of more belting melodies
[Edited 5/1/10 14:33pm]



I saw you posted that before! smile I want to reply, but I haven't heard that version!

oh my bad, i didn't think my first post went through!
you can check it out on myspace music wink
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Reply #77 posted 05/02/10 6:11pm

ernestsewell

lotusboy said:

First of all, stop trying to insult me because of my age...im not clowning you personally...just your feeble attempts at re-working Prince's work. Im sure u have seen the Batman movie with Nicholson as the joker...your exactly like him..defacing art...it's kind of sick bro, thats all me and a lot of people on here are saying. keep your ageism to yourself...besides, u dont even really know my age...u look silly assuming my age just cuz the word "boy" is in my screenname. and u never responded to the fact that if someone re-worked your songs, how u would feel...but im sure you'll just say "i don't care"..blah blah blah. triteful bit pedestrian of u, son.

Whaaaaat teh fcuk you talkin' about? Age? Nicholson? It's cute how you tried to turn the "boy" thing back around with "son", but it's just rather .....bland. Otherwise, I've no idea what you're going on about. "It's kind of sick bro". HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA too funny!
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Reply #78 posted 05/02/10 6:15pm

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ernestsewell said:

lotusboy said:

First of all, stop trying to insult me because of my age...im not clowning you personally...just your feeble attempts at re-working Prince's work. Im sure u have seen the Batman movie with Nicholson as the joker...your exactly like him..defacing art...it's kind of sick bro, thats all me and a lot of people on here are saying. keep your ageism to yourself...besides, u dont even really know my age...u look silly assuming my age just cuz the word "boy" is in my screenname. and u never responded to the fact that if someone re-worked your songs, how u would feel...but im sure you'll just say "i don't care"..blah blah blah. triteful bit pedestrian of u, son.

Whaaaaat teh fcuk you talkin' about? Age? Nicholson? It's cute how you tried to turn the "boy" thing back around with "son", but it's just rather .....bland. Otherwise, I've no idea what you're going on about. "It's kind of sick bro". HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA too funny!


u know exactly what Im talking about..the scene where Nicholson defaces all the artwork with paint (not too mention Jerry Hall's face).You are just like him, defacing Prince's music and then trying to rationalize why you do it....sick sick sick. dont try to flip the script homie...we all got your number on the Org. think we don't?
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Reply #79 posted 05/02/10 6:44pm

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^^^^^

Oh for cripes sake you two. Let's keep this thread on track instead of it all getting off topic and personal. Take your crap to orgnotes. It would be a shame to lock this thread up sigh
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Reply #80 posted 05/02/10 6:58pm

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luv4u said:

^^^^^

Oh for cripes sake you two. Let's keep this thread on track instead of it all getting off topic and personal. Take your crap to orgnotes. It would be a shame to lock this thread up sigh



some people have been banned for less.
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Reply #81 posted 05/02/10 7:07pm

ernestsewell

lotusboy said:

we all got your number on the Org. think we don't?

LOL OMG ROFLMAO! You take the internetz TOO seriously! Certifiable! Get a life, and stop hijacking the thread. wacky
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Reply #82 posted 05/02/10 7:23pm

ernestsewell

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To remove from P's art is like removing the eyes from the Mona Lisa.

Klick

It could be a whole other discussion about Radio Edits, and censored versions then.
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Reply #83 posted 05/02/10 7:59pm

bey7474

I would have released the Extended version (uncut) of Electric chair in place of the remix
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Reply #84 posted 05/02/10 8:05pm

Christopher

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ernestsewell said:

Christopher said:

The castle started spinning
Or maybe it was my brain
I can't tell u what she did 2 me
But my body will never be the same
Her lovin will kick your behind
Oh, shell show u no mercy
But shell shonuff shonuff show u how 2 grind

i always hated this. messed up the flow lol. i like it as it is in purple rain.

I like that verse. It's kinda trippy and gives a euphoric idea to the story.

its a shitty ass verse and should be aborted from this world smile
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Reply #85 posted 05/02/10 8:15pm

lotusboy

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SPOOKYGAS said:

luv4u said:

^^^^^

Oh for cripes sake you two. Let's keep this thread on track instead of it all getting off topic and personal. Take your crap to orgnotes. It would be a shame to lock this thread up sigh



some people have been banned for less.


ITS ernestwell who attacks personally first. If you reread, then you would see that in this thread...I am simply reiterating what others have said as well regarding "fixing Prince's music"...Thanks.
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Reply #86 posted 05/02/10 8:20pm

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ernestsewell said:

lotusboy said:

we all got your number on the Org. think we don't?

LOL OMG ROFLMAO! You take the internetz TOO seriously! Certifiable! Get a life, and stop hijacking the thread. wacky


[Flame bait snip - luv4u]
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Reply #87 posted 05/02/10 8:38pm

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Mindflux said:



Do you do this with any other form of art? Do you edit novels to "improve" the story? Do you chop up films to expedite the denoument?



Ever hear of fan fiction? In some cases stories ARE rewritten. Also there are people who DO edit films (mainly Star Wars, judging from the search I just did lol)
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Reply #88 posted 05/02/10 8:58pm

ernestsewell

Christopher said:

ernestsewell said:


I like that verse. It's kinda trippy and gives a euphoric idea to the story.

its a shitty ass verse and should be aborted from this world smile

All hateful and shit. lol
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Reply #89 posted 05/02/10 9:19pm

LeanderWapshot

Good idea.
I got one. On "For The Tears in Your Eyes" there's a break for a short guitar solo. But, the solo does nothing. Almost like it was edited out. It's odd. The sound of the guitars is great in that song. It's a missed opportunity.
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