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Reply #60 posted 03/07/10 1:52pm

Linn4days

jimino1 said:

from a reliable source I heard this is true...also the aussie female guitarist (name escapes me right now) that was playing for MJ just before he died has recently been jamming at Paisley....I wonder if she's in the new line-up...or maybe Prince was just absorbing some talent...getting some new ideas....

interesting times....although I can't get very excited about this....after last year's hype and then letdown...I'll wait and watch on the sideline smile


She has a CD out.. Saw her on TV.. So, I'm not sure about that..

Collaborating? Possibly.


Just my opinion.

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Reply #61 posted 03/07/10 1:53pm

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jimino1 said:

also the aussie female guitarist (name escapes me right now) that was playing for MJ just before he died has recently been jamming at Paisley

orianthi??
really?? eek
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Reply #62 posted 03/07/10 1:56pm

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SomewhereHereOnEarth said:

jimino1 said:

also the aussie female guitarist (name escapes me right now) that was playing for MJ just before he died has recently been jamming at Paisley

orianthi??
really?? eek


think he means Tal Wilkenfeld - she's an amazing bass player who played with Jeff Beck and Stevie W (I think?). It was reported ages ago that she was playing on Shelby J's record, but there were recently rumours she was playing with P too.
"We've never been able to pull off a funk number"

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Reply #63 posted 03/07/10 1:58pm

Linn4days

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IstenSzek said:

once again, lotusflow3r has the scoop.

oh, wait lol

It's really funny! lol


Actually, many years ago when Prince's website (Love 4 oneanother) was not providing any worthy news updates, I started looking for alternatives. I really got sick of the propoganda on his site, and finally got fed up when they sent out a bulletin in email calling all the dissatisfied customers of Crystal Ball "haters" (remember some were double-charged, others waited months to receive their product).

Looking for another source of 'Prince news' was how I found the org. I was so relieved there was a fansite that allowed honest opinions and real speculation to take place.


Like the unofficial logo of the org states, "prince.org, because sometimes Prince can be a douche, and we'll say it." lol



Why should he report a new line-up? It's business is it not?

If he does not use contracts, someone else could swoop in..

Timberlake hired Mike Scott and Blackwell.. Maybe, Prince moved-on from The Musicology Band, but you never know..

I'm not going to see him in concert, but not reporting band changes and collaborators, seems like a good move from a business perspective.

Keep new players under-wraps... They need time to learn, and grow with their new jobs without some people trying to criticize before they play a note.
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Reply #64 posted 03/07/10 2:05pm

Linn4days

LOVEVERY1 said:

I like, he sounds pretty good. I hear a new album coming up real soon. Can't wait!!!


I assume there will be more...
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Reply #65 posted 03/07/10 2:11pm

Linn4days

He plays over samples too..according to one of the videos above..

Look.. Funk players are few and far between now..I assume.

Players who grew-up trying to mimic the MPLS-Sound with or without Linn-Drum being plugged-into their drum sampler pads..

Brandy has a nice band..or had them. Players move-on, and they want to release their own material.

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Reply #66 posted 03/07/10 7:46pm

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A new drummer is cool I guess, but maybe a producer, co-writer and a studio engineer who knows how to mix a little more creatively would be more of a priority in my books.

...of course unfortunately I know none of that will ever happen.
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Reply #67 posted 03/07/10 8:04pm

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johnny2000 said:

A new drummer is cool I guess, but maybe a producer, co-writer and a studio engineer who knows how to mix a little more creatively would be more of a priority in my books.

...of course unfortunately I know none of that will ever happen.


There is something definitely going wrong in his studio work, or maybe the word is a lack of creativity or just lazy.
I miss all those little touches like the famous intros for "Lets Go Crazy" or "1999" The whole of "When Doves Cry" from beginning to end. All the little flourishes in "Erotic City" with the mix changing every few seconds and slowed down and sped up voices and guitars throughout.
There is definitely something lacking in his post 80's work. Even when he tried to incorporate some of those same techniques into his work in the 90's we ended up with something like those grotesque segues in "The Gold Experience" or TRC. With the horrid "Vanessa Bartholomew", The NPG operator, the pussy slurping on "Come" or a cheesy Prince Vadar on TRC.You could tell something was definitely lacking, off and out of tune with his creative spirit.
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Reply #68 posted 03/07/10 8:15pm

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violetblues said:

johnny2000 said:

A new drummer is cool I guess, but maybe a producer, co-writer and a studio engineer who knows how to mix a little more creatively would be more of a priority in my books.

...of course unfortunately I know none of that will ever happen.


There is something definitely going wrong in his studio work, or maybe the word is a lack of creativity or just lazy.
I miss all those little touches like the famous intros for "Lets Go Crazy" or "1999" The whole of "When Doves Cry" from beginning to end. All the little flourishes in "Erotic City" with the mix changing every few seconds and slowed down and sped up voices and guitars throughout.
There is definitely something lacking in his post 80's work. Even when he tried to incorporate some of those same techniques into his work in the 90's we ended up with something like those grotesque segues in his 90's recordings. With the horrid "Vanessa Bartholomew" or NPG operator or the pussy slurping on "Come" you could tell something was definitely lacking and out of tune with his creative spirit.
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Thank you... I can't identify with all these people getting their panties wet over this drummer... we know Prince's live game is TIGHT. He knows how to assemble a band, and get the best out of them.

What is missing are people who can inspire the best in him in the studio.
"That...magic, the start of something revolutionary-the Minneapolis Sound, we should cherish it and not punish prince for not being able to replicate it."-Dreamshaman32
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Reply #69 posted 03/08/10 4:20am

colorblu

New drummer, headbang New Prince music
yes
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Reply #70 posted 03/08/10 5:04am

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John Blackwell lite
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Reply #71 posted 03/08/10 7:10am

Adisa

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I agree with johnny, violet, and NPS. This new drummer can play his off ass. shrug So can most of the drummers in the city where I live. What I want is new great Prince album. Hell, I'll settle for a new and great Prince song.
I'm sick and tired of the Prince fans being sick and tired of the Prince fans that are sick and tired!
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Reply #72 posted 03/08/10 7:45am

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violetblues said:


He needs inspiring dudes like this guy get his ass out of that rut


He's been in a rut??? LotusFlow3r isnt something a person in rut produces. His rut is business-related (and perhaps spiritual), but not musical IMO.
Change it one more time..
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Reply #73 posted 03/08/10 7:52am

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SomewhereHereOnEarth said:

jimino1 said:

also the aussie female guitarist (name escapes me right now) that was playing for MJ just before he died has recently been jamming at Paisley

orianthi??
really?? eek



I was gonna say the same thing....just kinda discovered her last week. and as she seems cool an all...she's apparently a lead guitarist....and he don't need one of those.
"not a fan" falloff yeah...ok
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Reply #74 posted 03/08/10 7:56am

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then prolly means he has a new bass player too.
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Reply #75 posted 03/08/10 8:21am

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Alamine said:

OldFriends4Sale said:



Love him, love the Roots, but the vision 4 the Roots includes him,


who are The Roots


A hip hop band, tite organic
they've played in Europe America etc etc their live cd was actually done in N.Europe, I forget which country

www.theRoots.com
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Reply #76 posted 03/08/10 8:27am

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Tame said:

NelsonR said:



i agree with the others, give us some basic beats
so we can shake the phat on our asses...we do not
need to rejoice at a drummer who is an expert in
long rolls; sheile e did that in 87-8



Amen...and with glow in the dark stix 2... razz


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Reply #77 posted 03/08/10 8:57am

Linn4days

NelsonR said:

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

He is going to give Prince a whole new energy. He is amazing to watch. the best drummer Prince has had so far and he has had some good ones...


i agree with the others, give us some basic beats
so we can shake the phat on our asses...we do not
need to rejoice at a drummer who is an expert in
long rolls; sheile e did that in 87-8



Yeah..too much "Showtime", the crowd looses a step...

Too many melodies..

The instruments, userbanks, (whatever) don't sound like the record live (no matter what time it was released)

Can't recognize the song until the lyrics are recognized first..

Commit to a song

Don't get a full song until some "universal anthem song/ballad" is played at the end of the concert..

...those were the things that were being mentioned when I saw when I last attended a concert..

It has been a problem for several entertainers..I think that solos showcase new band members, and that is good, but I think they also help a singer save their voices for the next show.


My Opinion.
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Reply #78 posted 03/08/10 11:19am

violetblues

lezama said:


He's been in a rut??? LotusFlow3r isnt something a person in rut produces. His rut is business-related (and perhaps spiritual), but not musical IMO.


I agree that the single"Lotusflow3r" disk is a great record, with "Dreamer" and Colonized Mind" becoming new Prince classics, but as a whole especially when paired with something as abysmal and pedestrian as "MplSound" you get the sense that he has finally run out of original things to say with his music, or even fresh ways to present his music.
Even with a standout cut like "Dreamer" you get a sense that it is just a great cover song or at the very least an ode to Hendrix. (an awesome ode at that!)
To me "Colonized Mind" would better represent something new from Prince, something befitting an artist of his caliber with a very clever arrangement that is both original and truly feels heartfelt, a song that regardless of your ideology, completely gets the listener immersed in it. To me that is what Prince was about.
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Reply #79 posted 03/08/10 12:11pm

RodeoSchro

Isn't this the guy Graycap was promoting for Prince a couple years ago?
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