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Reply #30 posted 03/05/10 9:50am

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erik319 said:

squirrelgrease said:



The Truth is a keeper, though I can't listen to Animal Kingdom without wincing.


And what exactly is wrong with the line 'funky funky blue cheese'? Clearly your perceptions have changed.



lol No more Animal Kingdom lyrics please... I beg of you.
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Reply #31 posted 03/05/10 9:53am

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By the way, you can still sample Crystal Ball songs here as WAVs:

love4oneanother.com
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Reply #32 posted 03/05/10 10:46am

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By the way, you can still sample Crystal Ball songs here as WAVs:

love4oneanother.com

And the online booklet, and printable covers are still online:
http://www.bieker.de/crys...ndex2.html
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Reply #33 posted 03/05/10 11:55am

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squirrelgrease said:

I love it. After being pissed about the poor distribution and handling of pre-orders, I got over it and enjoyed the cuts. I don't skip a single track on the first 3 CDs.

I remember going to Border's and buying it, as well as Liz Jones' horrible Purple Reign book. I read the book while listening to the CDs. I wasn't thrilled w/ the book, nor "Calhouse Square" and "Da Bang". I liked the set overall though. Still do.

I thought Calhoun Square was a strong track(musically, not so much lyrically). Even though he clearly ripped off a guitar lick from "The Stroke" by Billy Squire.
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Reply #34 posted 03/05/10 6:34pm

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Actually it's been talked about a lot here.

Today, I listened to:

Interactive
Da Bang
Crucial - this track sounds like a Smokey Robinson track all the way;nice track
An Honest Man - Acapella/blues/gospel sounding track (which is less than 1:20 seconds)
Sexual Suicide - Love the horns and drums in this track - some parts of the song reminds me of Sheila E's glamorous life
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Reply #35 posted 03/06/10 6:50am

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this was really the first new thing released by prince after i started to listen to his music. I was very excited about it. i went through all the 1-800-new-funk stuff and ended up buying the set in the stores a day before it arrived in the mail.

i think the crystal ball set is awesome. remixes are a waste but i think most remixes are with any song. love the truth album & kamasutra does get a listening to every now & then. i would have loved the crystal ball 2 set but it never happened.
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Reply #36 posted 03/06/10 11:05am

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'2morrow' is just awesome worship
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Reply #37 posted 03/06/10 11:10am

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one of my all time favs

'calhoun square' rocks
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Reply #38 posted 03/06/10 11:19am

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Calhoun Sq. rocks. I had some nice egg dish there one morning. I wonder what version of crystal ball was on that config, the dream factory one?
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Reply #39 posted 03/06/10 2:30pm

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xlr8r said:

I still have that shirt that came with it (I like safe sex) never worn lol.


haha same here , never worn it....


maybe ebay wants it ?
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Reply #40 posted 03/06/10 3:01pm

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FunkyStrange said:

xlr8r said:

I still have that shirt that came with it (I like safe sex) never worn lol.


haha same here , never worn it....


maybe ebay wants it ?



I don't think it would fetch anything lol
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Reply #41 posted 03/07/10 6:56am

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ernestsewell said:

Agnieszka020 said:



I didn't know there was an original crystal ball vs 'unoriginal' crystal ball (?). What's the difference between them? I have the 4-cd set, which means the 'unoriginal' crystal ball?

The original Crystal Ball in 1987/1988 had some of the songs from SOTT, as well as other yet-unreleased songs like "Train", "Big Tall Wall", etc.

The one released in 1998 was nothing but a compilation of outtakes. It was great that we had cleaner versions of the title track, "Acknowledge Me", "Dream Factory", "Sexual Suicide", "Ripopgodazippa", etc, but it wasn't how Crystal Ball was originally intended. Prince stated that he wanted to "clean up the bootleg market a bit" with the CB release. It was good that he did, and there was a CB II in the works, but it never materialized. God only knows why - but it's probably Prince losing interest in something, yet again.

CB original and final configuration as of November 30, 1986:

A
Rebirth of the Flesh
Play In the Sunshine
Housequake
The Ballad of Dorothy Parker

B
It
Starfish and Coffee
Slow Love
Hot Thing

C
Crystal Ball
If I Was Your Girlfriend
Rockhard In A Funky Place


D
The Ball
Joy In Repetition
Strange Relationship
I Could Never Take The Place Of Your Man


E
Shockadelica
Good Love
Forever In My Life
Sign O The Times

F
The Cross
Adore
It's Gonna Be A Beautiful Night

The only outstanding song not released is some fashion is "The Ball". "Rebirth" was released as a live cut during NPGMC 2001. On 30 Years of Unreleased Funk, the original first two tracks, and how they segued together was bootlegged out. Interesting to hear "Rebirth" segue into "Sunshine". Also, there is a slightly different version of "ICNTTPOYM" out there. Just a bit of a rearrangement, and a some extra stuff at the beginning that's floating around out there.

It just seems that Prince using the "CB" name was a cheap ploy to gain interest in the project. The original CB wasn't an outtake set per se, it was new music, although the eventual CB was "new" in the regard that those tunes had not been released before, a lot of it wasn't new (like the remixes, or even "Good Love" which was already out on the soundtrack).


So theres actually two versions of C.B? Was the first verison an offical release?
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Reply #42 posted 03/07/10 7:18am

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Was the first version an official release?

No, 3 disks was too long for Warner Bros., so they made Prince whittle it down. It became what we know as Sign O The Times album.
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Reply #43 posted 03/07/10 8:04am

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ernestsewell said:

aazzaabb said:

Was the first version an official release?

No, 3 disks was too long for Warner Bros., so they made Prince whittle it down. It became what we know as Sign O The Times album.


Wow! So 'Sign O' The Times started out as CB? I've learned something!

& when he finally released C.B,it was the tracks he removed from Sign' on the original?
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Reply #44 posted 03/07/10 8:13am

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"Crucial," is my favorite off the cd. I Love the version of "Dark," as well. cool
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Reply #45 posted 03/07/10 8:51am

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Tame said:

I Love the version of "Dark," as well. cool


nod I was about to say that!

Mine never shipped (not sure if I was charged, my bro was - I got The War tho, but it f-ing disappeared a few yrs ago.. sad )

I bought it for $5 or $10 at the garage sale at the first celly. Love The Truth too. Hated KS (we got a cassette of it at the garage sale for a buck or two coz our rented car had no CD player - we put it on and almost barfed! lol )

Thanks for the link to the cover and booklet - I could never get the official site to work back in the day. It always jammed.
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Reply #46 posted 03/07/10 8:54am

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aazzaabb said:

ernestsewell said:


No, 3 disks was too long for Warner Bros., so they made Prince whittle it down. It became what we know as Sign O The Times album.


Wow! So 'Sign O' The Times started out as CB? I've learned something!

& when he finally released C.B,it was the tracks he removed from Sign' on the original?

No

In section 4.2 the FAQ for this forum:

http://prince.org/msg/7/145050

you will find links to past threads about some album configurations that might be helpful on this matter:

http://prince.org/msg/7/116565

The released version of Crystal Ball drew on a variety of material from over the years and, song-wise - only drew on a couple of tracks from the earlier project.
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Reply #47 posted 03/07/10 9:02am

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langebleu said:

aazzaabb said:



Wow! So 'Sign O' The Times started out as CB? I've learned something!

& when he finally released C.B,it was the tracks he removed from Sign' on the original?

No

In section 4.2 the FAQ for this forum:

http://prince.org/msg/7/145050

you will find links to past threads about some album configurations that might be helpful on this matter:

http://prince.org/msg/7/116565

The released version of Crystal Ball drew on a variety of material from over the years and, song-wise - only drew on a couple of tracks from the earlier project.


Cheers for that.I'll check out those links.I'm like a fish out of water here. eek
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Reply #48 posted 03/07/10 1:27pm

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wasitgood4u said:


I bought it for $5 or $10 at the garage sale at the first celly. Love The Truth too. Hated KS (we got a cassette of it at the garage sale for a buck or two coz our rented car had no CD player - we put it on and almost barfed! lol )


The first celly was an absolute bargain basement for that stuff smile

I don't even remember how many copies of the War I got and TMBGITW Valentine editions .. NPG Samplers , oh so much stuff for a dollar !
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Reply #49 posted 03/07/10 1:31pm

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One of the biggest ripoffs in Prince history. Keep off his best outtakes but put on a bunch of remixes and a few new songs, with lots of 94-95 glop added on.

Cloreen Baconskin should have had the masters burned.
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Reply #50 posted 03/07/10 1:31pm

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FunkyStrange said:

wasitgood4u said:


I bought it for $5 or $10 at the garage sale at the first celly. Love The Truth too. Hated KS (we got a cassette of it at the garage sale for a buck or two coz our rented car had no CD player - we put it on and almost barfed! lol )


The first celly was an absolute bargain basement for that stuff smile

I don't even remember how many copies of the War I got and TMBGITW Valentine editions .. NPG Samplers , oh so much stuff for a dollar !


We got there late and missed most of the good stuff. The only other thing I bought was a cool purple NPG DJ t-shirt which got lost some time in the last 10 years (bummer!) and a 12" Shhh, which turned out to be a carmen Electra song (don't thing I ever listened all the way thru!)
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