CalhounSq said:

(YES) - I'm just kidding!

CalhounSq said:

Hi there,

What about the Dallas aftershow...that was great -buddy miles-?? It is hard to say which show is better or what...
Each show is unique...

regards...

good topic.

I was just thinking the same thing here.
I mean, listening to the ona shows in america, europe en japan (I'm getting musicoverload here), I here a difference.
The 'feel' of his shows are different in every continent. I don't know why, he isn't different, the group isn't different, the setlist isn't that different, it must be the crowd.

perhaps first I must say that i'm form Europe, Belgium.

Often there is 'magic' in the air at a prince concert, I can't explain this, it's a feel. It is something I miss when I hear concert from another continent, and you can feel it listening to some shows from over here.

Where is that magic coming from, no idea. Now prince says it at his concerts, he lives on this love/vibe he get's from the crowd, listen to Antwerp. Listen to what he does with purple rain, listen when he does it again with the ladder. Even folks in the crowd say it (de mensen worden zot). En plus, you have to know that antwerp was the largest venue somewhat 12000 people there. I spoke some who were all in the back, and they felt it also ... so it's not for the venues (antwerp sportpaleis is perhaps the badest venue there is for concerts)

now nighttown is a whole other story.
I was there also. I still don't know what happend there. There it certainly wasn't the crowd. It was like there was no crowd. There was only prince and his music. It was something I never felt before.
I saw three different princes that day in rotterdam, totaly different.

soundcheck: have fun with the crowd, play some music, everything ok ?

show: still big showman, good music, nice crowd, but it's all "show", he plays that carracter.

aftersow: ??? prince musician ??? prince construction worker ???
sorry still unther the impression of the ending of the nighttown show. It's very strange that you don't hear that, you simply don't hear any agression, but when he smashed that gitar I felt aggression.


I better stop this here, wasn't intended to do a survey

NuPwrSoul said:

Correctomundo!

rafael said:

TRUE, the Dallas aftershow is incredible!! And from what I've read & can recall, NY & LA had some pretty good aftershows too. I'm not saying he's never inspired in the US b/c he is at times, but it seems like he's ALWAYS inspired abroad... But lucky for them, right?

Also, w/ Dallas, you have 4 songs that absolutely kicked ass IMO: Beautiful Strange, Calhoun Square , The Ride & TRC... the rest wouldn't make me fall out of my chair. BUT look @ the setlist for Nighttown! Song for song, it's INSANE!! We just don't get that kinda love over here...




love my edit.
[This message was edited Sun Jan 19 3:06:03 PST 2003 by CalhounSq]

EDD said:

Dude, don't stop - I dig your comments! I'm very curious about it all, this is great.

Great topic!

First of all, yes, all the Euro Aftershows are absolutely amazing. No one, yes NO ONE, who can listen to them, or even better, have witnessed them first hand, can deny that Prince is one hell of a musician and light years ahead of most of the music biz.

And for Euro Aftershows being better than American...maybe it's just because he started in the US. Maybe the funk machine was better oiled in Europe.

If I think about all the songs they have played on this tour (someone count 'em!)...it's amazing, they must have rehearsed like crazy.
[This message was edited Sun Jan 19 4:49:55 PST 2003 by calldapplwondery83]

calldapplwondery83 said:

Why, thank you Got some stars for me?



I guess he does start every world tour in the US first & then take it abroad, so that could be true. Maybe he should start abroad first then end up in the US?!

BUT if this theory were to hold tight, we would have TRULY gotten our asses kicked in Vegas, don'cha think? It being the end of the tour & all... Vegas (the aftershow) VERY good (the spin he put on SOTT blew my mind!) but did he TRULY kick our asses? No... A proper ass kicking would have required less jams (unless they're kickass like the one @ Nighttown), more Prince on the mic, more Kat Dyson & Nikka Costa would have been alright too...

LOL, is THIS part of the problem? Am I being too nitpicky instead of just enjoying it??

CalhounSq said:

You only feel this way cuz you missed the Xenophobia Celebration.

I just skimmed this thread, but I agree, Europe sucks ass.

Tough one!

Hmm I'd say that Prince probably feels a bit more "free" in his European shows, simply because it isn't his own doorstep. The USA is full of his peers, his critics, his detractors, his friends and loved ones etc... maybe he feels a bit more pressure to give them "Prince" the pop star.

I don't know if he gets any more respect here in Europe (he still gets shit from the UK tabloids etc) but he certainly has a big fan following. I guess that has gotta be quite satisfying for Prince, that after so many years, all these teeny countries in Europe still dig him and still fill up the theatres for several nights running.

Also perhaps Prince feels that his fans in different countries with different cultural backgrounds etc have different tastes in his music. It might just be a case of giving the punters what they want.

Prince should set up a new Paisley Park in Europe and all you Americans would have to trek over here for the Celebrations

2the9s said:

*slap*

ian said:

Blasphemer!!!



grabs her leather glove and smacks ian with it

mistermaxxx said:

Yeah...us Aussies don't even get tours !!!

Prince hasn't come back here since 1992 cuz he knew he had too much fun here the 1st time !!!

LaVisHh said:

You & Aaron keep kicking me in the head w/ that! :X


CSq

I can't help it, I wanted to go!!

Sataninas said:

I think you're looking for the "vomit or diarrhea" question on the THIS or THAT, part 7 thread, GD forum...

CalhounSq said:

I hope, esp for those who didn't get to go last year, that there is one this year. The experience of a concert of people from all over the world in one location is a definate high.

Save up! It's really just a reminder to those who missed out, and are still only considering going.


[This message was edited Sun Jan 19 7:04:11 PST 2003 by LaVisHh]

CalhounSq said:

Well, that's a matter of taste. Personally, I like to see him just jamming! And yes, I got some stars for you!

CalhounSq said:

Maybe he still considers Holland his faviorite euro country, since he always tries to kill over here... And succeeds almost every time...

Neversin.

Even though I'm a US fan, I have to say that, yes we apparently do suck ass. LOL

Europeans are so much cooler than us! And they have always appreciated Prince in the way he deserves to be appreciated.

I think the reason why he likes Holland so mutch is that we enjoy everything he do en we do not complain that is to less. And yes you have to pay 100 dollar for the memberchip
but we are proud and happy that we can become a member of Prince his verry own music club.And enjoy mutch more of what he makes en does than when you only coud buy cd's in the store like from any other artist.

We love him for everything he do !!!

Heee...nighttown and bataclan were that great because they were paid shows in small clubs...the man works for his money...$100 a pop

Cut the crab about the F... money !!! Prince make music because he love to do that and he is enjoying it, you can see it and hear it.
Everybody has to eat NOBODY WORKS FOR FREE, DO U DO THAT ???

I would like to add that IMO the US One Nite Alone shows were much better then the European shows (Mostly judging from boots). On the US leg of the tour he played new unheard material and it was new and exciting and by the time he got to Europe it almost became an oldies show again. He started dropping songs from TRC and adding in more hits and oldies. It reminded me a lot of the difference between the ACT 1 and ACT II tours.

IMO the band wasn't playing the oldies as well either being as they didn't have time to rehearse them and were mostly playing off-the-cuff like at the Celebration.

Carola said:

Edit:I apologize for the rude smartass comment--I cant write in other languages very well either and it was not right to make fun of others in that aspect.
[This message was edited Sun Jan 19 12:36:22 PST 2003 by rdhull]

lovemachine said:

This is true! We did win out on this aspect...BUT!..the oldies he did play for Europeans were some good ones rarely played live such as The Ladder etc.

rdhull said:

Yes but perhaps this is because we had to wait years and years for a concert! So he kind of bags it all up and we get an all rounder?

Bambi319 said:

That too..but/and its derigueur for bands etc to change up their set lists etc when they do second legs of their tours in different countries and continents etc.



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[This message was edited Sun Jan 19 12:33:39 PST 2003 by rdhull]

spaceboy said:

Were Nighttown & Bataclan both billed as "2nd shows" instead of "aftershows"?? Just curious - don't know what Bataclan comes out to be but Nighttown is 2 disks = longer show...



I guess if he would have charged members for Vegas, I would have felt ripped & abused. BUT it can't be about the $ all the time - hasn't he done $20 shows in SF & kicked some ass for a few hours?? Collectors, speak up!