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Printable2freaky4church1 said: Come on guys, we all know that it is about the JW religion. Religion just makes people do bad music. The cult has taken our Prince from us. The only way we will see him again is if he sees the error of his ways and quits that cult and tells Larry to kiss it.
That crack about a fifty year old making music is dumb when you only need to mention one name: Bob Dylan. The guy has made two albums in 5 years that have both received five star reviews from Rolling Stone. Prince hasn't had a five star review since Sign. Until he leaves the cult expect the music to stink. Now your post is officially void as Rolling Stone also gave Britney Spears and Keyshia Cole's lame albums almost classic ratings too so they have always been cast off for "reviews" since 1999 and up. How you going to compare Prince to a magazine that has been going downhill in reviews for YEARS now? Straight Jacket Funk Affair
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NeoGeo24bit said: It's pretty clear from Purple 'n Gold and Cause and Effect that Prince can no longer write meaningful music and that any hope of a great new Prince song or album is deader than dead. But Prince will always be a legend, no matter if he realizes 100 bad albums in a row. So this thread is to show appreciation for Prince's past work and accomplishments, kind of like spilling out some champagne when your homie dies.
Well, Prince, I'm pouring out (some) of my Dr. Pepper to remember that you used to be great. Here's to you, Skipper.  Just go and cling 2 your dusty, outdated 'The Gold Experience' CD then. Prince's writing and musical skills have evolved tremendously, and continue 2, unlike any other musical artist in history. The 'Lotusflow3r' ALBUM stands right next 2 any album he's done, and even exceeds them in certain ways. "He's a musician's musician..." |
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paisleypark4 said: 2freaky4church1 said: Come on guys, we all know that it is about the JW religion. Religion just makes people do bad music. The cult has taken our Prince from us. The only way we will see him again is if he sees the error of his ways and quits that cult and tells Larry to kiss it.
That crack about a fifty year old making music is dumb when you only need to mention one name: Bob Dylan. The guy has made two albums in 5 years that have both received five star reviews from Rolling Stone. Prince hasn't had a five star review since Sign. Until he leaves the cult expect the music to stink. Now your post is officially void as Rolling Stone also gave Britney Spears and Keyshia Cole's lame albums almost classic ratings too so they have always been cast off for "reviews" since 1999 and up. How you going to compare Prince to a magazine that has been going downhill in reviews for YEARS now? Exactly. I've yet to understand why people will listen to music based some SOMEONE ELSE'S judgment. That's just fucking stupid. | |
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I wont be toasting nothing, the guy still is great and you're just stuck in the past refusing to move with the times unlike Prince. Shit like this really pisses me off, set up princeisshit.org and post on there so what site is this then? onlypositiveopinionsonprince.com ? | |
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dionisis said:[quote] I wont be toasting nothing, the guy still is great and you're just stuck in the past refusing to move with the times unlike Prince. Shit like this really pisses me off, set up princeisshit.org and post on there so what site is this then? onlypositiveopinionsonprince.com ?
You're kidding, right? The members of this site R overwhelmingly negative, with regards 2 Prince AND his music. . [Edited 3/2/10 7:49am] "He's a musician's musician..." |
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Giovanni777 said: NeoGeo24bit said: It's pretty clear from Purple 'n Gold and Cause and Effect that Prince can no longer write meaningful music and that any hope of a great new Prince song or album is deader than dead. But Prince will always be a legend, no matter if he realizes 100 bad albums in a row. So this thread is to show appreciation for Prince's past work and accomplishments, kind of like spilling out some champagne when your homie dies.
Well, Prince, I'm pouring out (some) of my Dr. Pepper to remember that you used to be great. Here's to you, Skipper. Just go and cling 2 your dusty, outdated 'The Gold Experience' CD then. Prince's writing and musical skills have evolved tremendously, and continue 2, unlike any other musical artist in history. The 'Lotusflow3r' ALBUM stands right next 2 any album he's done, and even exceeds them in certain ways. While I disagree with Gold Experience being outdated..Lol... I do agree with you on lotus. Lotus had great songs!!! People think if he doesnt have an album with 95% hit worthy songs that he has lost it. Prince could have cut down Lotus to 10 of the best songs and people would be praising him for returning to greatness! | |
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That crack about a fifty year old making music is dumb when you only need to mention one name: Bob Dylan. The guy has made two albums in 5 years that have both received five star reviews from Rolling Stone. Prince hasn't had a five star review since Sign.
Until he leaves the cult expect the music to stink. Ah Rolling Stone Magazine. What a bunch of shite. This is the magazine that gave Controversy 3.5 stars out of 5. Enough said. [Edited 3/2/10 8:23am] [Edited 3/2/10 11:50am] "New Power slide...." |
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Giovanni777 said: 1) Just go and cling 2 your dusty, outdated 'The Gold Experience' CD then.
2) Prince's writing and musical skills have evolved tremendously, and continue 2, 3) unlike any other musical artist in history. 4) The 'Lotusflow3r' ALBUM stands right next 2 any album he's done, and even exceeds them in certain ways. why do you wanna offend someone by making a negative comment on the masterpiece that is The Gold Experience...? ok tastes may be different, but still.... imo you fail on all 4 points made here...   Prince 4Ever.  | |
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thedance said: Giovanni777 said: 1) Just go and cling 2 your dusty, outdated 'The Gold Experience' CD then.
2) Prince's writing and musical skills have evolved tremendously, and continue 2, 3) unlike any other musical artist in history. 4) The 'Lotusflow3r' ALBUM stands right next 2 any album he's done, and even exceeds them in certain ways. why do you wanna offend someone by making a negative comment on the masterpiece that is The Gold Experience...? ok tastes may be different, but still.... imo you fail on all 4 points made here... I don't "fail" on either of the 2 points I made. Thanks 4 numbering my post, but there's really only 2 points... I only want 2 address one point though... How can anyone argue that Prince hasn't evolved musically? On every instrument, including voice, he has constantly been getting better with time, so 2 speak. Here's one example: His Guitar playing now is FAR better than it was in the '80s. More technically proficient, more diverse, and even more expressive. As far as my saying "unlike any other musical artist in history"... Every single group and solo artist I can think of (besides Prince) has "burned out", as far as their skills go, almost regardless of what instrument, but particularly with guitar and voice. Now U will mention his song writing... If anyone here cannot hear the beauty of the song "Here", then something is most definitely wrong with their perception and listening ability. Sorry, but it's true. That song is a tremendous masterwork, both musically and lyrically. That whole argument over whether he "still has it" is ridiculous. He is being himself moreso than anything he did in the '90s, and at a time where it's quite bold 2 do so... a time where mostly all contemporary music is shallow, bland, and largely talentless. . [Edited 3/2/10 10:11am] "He's a musician's musician..." |
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I also think Controversy is only a three and a half star album.
Admit it guys, Prince has lost it. There is no away around it. All you others say Hell Yea!!  | |
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2freaky4church1 said: I also think Controversy is only a three and a half star album.
Admit it guys, Prince has lost it. There is no away around it. Well, considering they gave MPLSound the same 3.5 stars as Controversy, I'd say he hasn't lost much of anything...according to Rolling Stone. Which is kind of like saying according to my roll of Charmin. [Edited 3/2/10 11:51am] "New Power slide...." |
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Havent you heard? Prince is like wine, he gets better with time  | |
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Prince has lost it?!?!?!?!?!
Lemme say this... If Usher would have released "Chocolate Box" it would have been a hit single. If Nickle Back or Doughtry would have released Crimson and Clover, it would have been a hit single. If Beyonce would have released Feel Good Feel Better Feel Wonderful, it would have been a hit single. Why them, and not Prince? He doesnt have a Major RECORD LABEL that is willing to back him and push him. (much like WB used to) Prince pissed off the record industry and continues to do so. So he will not have a hit single. But my main point is...he has the songs, he has the talent..but he isnt what the record industry wants to push anymore. He hasnt lost "it". The record industry just wants to lose HIM. | |
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the man still has it...
he is a better musician than he has ever has been | |
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The thought of this makes me sad  | |
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nyse said: the man still has it...
he is a better musician than he has ever has been So very very true | |
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Max said: nyse said: the man still has it...
he is a better musician than he has ever has been So very very true  | |
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Giovanni777 said: thedance said: why do you wanna offend someone by making a negative comment on the masterpiece that is The Gold Experience...? ok tastes may be different, but still.... imo you fail on all 4 points made here... I don't "fail" on either of the 2 points I made. Thanks 4 numbering my post, but there's really only 2 points... I only want 2 address one point though... How can anyone argue that Prince hasn't evolved musically? On every instrument, including voice, he has constantly been getting better with time, so 2 speak. Here's one example: His Guitar playing now is FAR better than it was in the '80s. More technically proficient, more diverse, and even more expressive. As far as my saying "unlike any other musical artist in history"... Every single group and solo artist I can think of (besides Prince) has "burned out", as far as their skills go, almost regardless of what instrument, but particularly with guitar and voice. Now U will mention his song writing... If anyone here cannot hear the beauty of the song "Here", then something is most definitely wrong with their perception and listening ability. Sorry, but it's true. That song is a tremendous masterwork, both musically and lyrically. That whole argument over whether he "still has it" is ridiculous. He is being himself moreso than anything he did in the '90s, and at a time where it's quite bold 2 do so... a time where mostly all contemporary music is shallow, bland, and largely talentless. . [Edited 3/2/10 10:11am]  **--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••-
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ronnwinter said: Prince has lost it?!?!?!?!?!
Lemme say this... If Usher would have released "Chocolate Box" it would have been a hit single. If Nickle Back or Doughtry would have released Crimson and Clover, it would have been a hit single. If Beyonce would have released Feel Good Feel Better Feel Wonderful, it would have been a hit single. Why them, and not Prince? He doesnt have a Major RECORD LABEL that is willing to back him and push him. (much like WB used to) Prince pissed off the record industry and continues to do so. So he will not have a hit single. But my main point is...he has the songs, he has the talent..but he isnt what the record industry wants to push anymore. He hasnt lost "it". The record industry just wants to lose HIM. Just to add to ur post, I think that a lot of people here don't realize that "pop" music means that it is "popular". We live in a society where any music act over the age of 40 is considered "old" and not "hip". It's not that the talent isn't there, but music (like anything else) has a particular place and time for society. To think that Prince would have a Top 40 music hit in 2010 is crazy! Society's musical taste has evolved from musicianship and talent to beauty and "carrying a tune". Sure, there are some that sink through the cracks that actually have talent, but in all, there aren't that many "talented" acts that hit the top-40. We live in an "instant" society. A song can be hot today and forgotten about the next. Think about it, how many songs on "top 40" radio are over 5 years old? What about 10 years old? Not many. In the 70s and 80s, it was not uncommon to hear a 5 or 10 year old song in regular rotation on a top 40 station. Now, that is a rare occasion. Ok, I've rambled enough. **--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••-
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Max said: nyse said: the man still has it...
he is a better musician than he has ever has been So very very true That might even be true. But the sound he produces nowadays are not immediately recognisable as Prince. The arrangements and the texts are no where close to wat it was. He needs to get some other inspiration than religion. He needs to work again with people who inspire him, who can contribute to his musio, not people that are inspired by him or look up to him. I'd say; give Claire Fisher a call, get some strings in your music and have it properly arranged. The man of science has learned to believe in justification, not by faith, but by verification - Thomas Henry Huxley |
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Didn't the whole percussive element of blues come from enslavement?
People always work better when forced into constraints. Freedom is never what we imagine. The 80s are over. Thanks Prince for making my life richer. | |
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dionisis said: I wont be toasting nothing, the guy still is great and you're just stuck in the past refusing to move with the times unlike Prince. Shit like this really pisses me off, set up princeisshit.org and post on there so what site is this then? onlypositiveopinionsonprince.com ?[/quote] Well as a "fansite" on the whole i guess it should be, i've never read so many comments slagging off a guy who we are all supposed to like. Maybe set up prince77-95.org for all the bellends stuck in the past. Prince has knocked out some wicked tunes in the past few years and i think its time that those that dont agree to fuck off and find another forum. We cant have this Prince was good / Prince is good split, its just gay. 3121 | |
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whatever...I still wanna be critical towards Prince's ouput: I'm no robot that likes everything Prince has ever released.
Imo Prince hasn't evolved for the positive --- since 1995 he has been on decline.... Giovanni: "Prince's writing and musical skills have evolved tremendously, and continue 2, unlike any other musical artist in history."
haha really: I can't help laughing at this comment. 
I just have to disagree on this, 
NPS, Rave, The Vault, Musicology, 3121, Planet Earth, these are not "memorable" like 1999, PR, ATWIAD, Parade, SOTT, Lovesexy. and.... this is my opinion..... it doesn't make me a "Prince hater". Prince 4Ever. | |
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thedance said: whatever...I still wanna be critical towards Prince's ouput: I'm no robot that likes everything Prince has ever released.
Imo Prince hasn't evolved for the positive --- since 1995 he has been on decline.... Giovanni: "Prince's writing and musical skills have evolved tremendously, and continue 2, unlike any other musical artist in history."
haha really: I can't help laughing at this comment.
I just have to disagree on this,
NPS, Rave, The Vault, Musicology, 3121, Planet Earth, these are not "memorable" like 1999, PR, ATWIAD, Parade, SOTT, Lovesexy. and.... this is my opinion..... it doesn't make me a "Prince hater". agreed - i'd say that NPS onwards have had at least 10-15 years less time to become memorable, therefore need a load more rotation to make up for it! | |
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Prince still makes great music and is a brilliant performer.
The 'Lotusflow3r' album was a real highlight for me. Recent songs I consider equal to his 80's work (at the very least), discounting funk jams and work-outs: 'Colonized Mind' 'Dreamer' 'Somewhere Here On Earth' 'The Dance' 'A Million Days' 'Reflection' 'Avalanche' 'When Eye Lay My Hands on U' 'I Love U But I Don't Trust U Anymore' 'The One' The entire 'The Truth' album. There are gems on everything Prince releases. Funk is its own reward. | |
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I think people are mistaking the handling of the 'Lotusflow3r' site with Prince's music.
Damn, 'Cause and Effect' is not that bloody bad. In fact I like it, including 'F.U.N.K'. Not sure about 'Purple and Gold', but then again, there are a few songs on 'Parade' I'm not certain about either for F's sake. Are we seriously suggesting 'Dreamer', 'Colonized Mind' 'Feel Good, Feel Wonderful', 'Crimson and Clover', 'Black Sweat', 'The Dance', 'The Word', 'Illusion, coma, Pimp & Circumstance', 'Cinnamon Girl', 'Reflection', 'Call my Name', When Eye Lay my Hands on U', 'Love' (acoustic) are not goood songs? Come on people. This seems an over-reaction to me. I don't appreciate the way the website has been handled but this is ridiculous. | |
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futurebaybeemama said: Havent you heard? Prince is like wine, he gets better with time
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i just thought that this is a good place to post this....
I am not a mufuckin "FAM" as you stupids say... I just appreciate good music and genius like musicianship. And if you don't understand it... don't listen and dont critisize. caus there is not another artist in the last decade who can match up to princes output and talent... Like prince says... "how can a non-musician discuss the future of music from anything other than a consumer point of view." so just relax, and if you don't like the new more mature sounding stuff. go listen to "Head" off your old azz dirty mind vinyle. thank you and have a sweet mother funkin' day...  | |
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honer said: dionisis said: so what site is this then? onlypositiveopinionsonprince.com ? Well as a "fansite" on the whole i guess it should be, i've never read so many comments slagging off a guy who we are all supposed to like. Maybe set up prince77-95.org for all the bellends stuck in the past. Prince has knocked out some wicked tunes in the past few years and i think its time that those that dont agree to fuck off and find another forum. We cant have this Prince was good / Prince is good split, its just gay. bellend? fuck off? Strong words. | |
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sirweasel said: Boring topic...next. Prince has always made the same music. This is no different than anything else he has done. Parade, AWTIAD, Batman, Graffiti Bridge, Emancipation, the list goes on. Come on the only reason you feel this way is that things are not like they used to be on the music scene. If Cause and Effect was on Sign O the Times you would have loved it
Yeah sure, Parade, ATWIAD, Batman, Graffiti Bridge and Emancipation sound all the sane. And he always made the same music. 
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