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Thread started 02/24/10 7:35pm

thedance

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Prince's pseudonym: "Tora Tora" - the japanese warcry... ?

I guess Tora Tora was a warcry from the Japanese in world war II, I think I heard this in a 1995 BBC tv-program about Prince / Exodus / The Gold Experience.

and this "warcry" was Prince's way showing his frustrations with Warner Bros. because they would not release his prince debut album The Gold Experience ?

But... what does it actually mean, are there any japanese fans here??

Depeche Mode had in 1981 a song - with similar song title: "Tora! Tora! Tora!" on their debut album "Speak & Spell".





Sorry if it's common knowledge what "Tora Tora" actually means..

My guess is something like "Attack Attack"... ?


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Reply #1 posted 02/24/10 9:26pm

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Here's a snip about the movie title:
The title is made up of the code-words that were used by the Japanese to indicate that complete surprise was achieved and is translated in the Japanese as "tiger", hence making the code for achieved surprise "Tiger, tiger, tiger".
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Reply #2 posted 02/25/10 12:52am

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^ what? I had to read that post twice... boxed


and... I don't understand your post,

there's a movie named "Tora Tora" ?

And someone translated the movie to "Tiger Tiger" ?

hmmm... really ?
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Reply #3 posted 02/25/10 3:09am

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thedance said:

^ what? I had to read that post twice... boxed


and... I don't understand your post,

there's a movie named "Tora Tora" ?

And someone translated the movie to "Tiger Tiger" ?

hmmm... really ?


According tho that, it says tora tora translates as Tiger, Tiger. I guess as a war cry, that's pretty damn good.

It's a really old movie, I think I watched a bit of it once.

On a related note, what do we know about the Tora Tora experience apart from the fact that it would have had 'lemme see your body get loose' on it.

I'mn guessing it was some kind of remix album? Anything else ever leak out about it?

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Reply #4 posted 02/25/10 3:38am

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thedance said:

^ what? I had to read that post twice... boxed

and... I don't understand your post,

there's a movie named "Tora Tora" ?

And someone translated the movie to "Tiger Tiger" ?

hmmm... really ?


Are you American? If so, don't you guys get history lessons in school? Never heard of Pearl Harbor?

The incoming Japanese fighter pilots are pleasantly surprised when there isn't even any anti-aircraft fire as they approach the base. As a result, the squadron leader radios in the code phrase marking that complete surprise for the attack has been achieved: "Tora, Tora, Tora."
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Reply #5 posted 02/25/10 3:40am

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the japanese were time-travelers having flash-backs from a tiger woods hotel room
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Reply #6 posted 02/25/10 3:46am

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BartVanHemelen said:



Are you American? If so, don't you guys get history lessons in school? Never heard of Pearl Harbor?


No I'm not American. Neither is thedance. I've heard of Pearl Harbor though, that's what finally got America off the fence and join the war.

Europe was pretty much under Nazzi rule, England was on its last legs, America were still sitting on the fence. Japan bombed Pearl Harbor and Winston Churchill instantly declared war on Japan for attacking Americans. Effectively embarrasing America into finally joining the war.

So yeah, I know my history smile


Blimey, that was a tangent an a half. hehe.
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Reply #7 posted 02/25/10 3:57am

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Just re read my post and it looks like I'm on some sort of anti America rant. haha. sorry about that, wasn't the intention at all. Just every time the phrase 'Pearl Harbor' is mentioned, I get flashbacks to that dreadful film that attempted to rewrite history.

I'm glad you guys showed up... better late than never razz

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Reply #8 posted 02/25/10 5:34am

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erik319 said:

Just re read my post and it looks like I'm on some sort of anti America rant. haha. sorry about that, wasn't the intention at all. Just every time the phrase 'Pearl Harbor' is mentioned, I get flashbacks to that dreadful film that attempted to rewrite history.

I'm glad you guys showed up... better late than never razz

Erik



lol

I actually saw a history program on Hawaii last week and the way the American government ended up owning the Pearl Harbor, then when the Harbor was bombed it was almost like:reaping what you sow

the American government got the Pearl Harbor from the native Hawaiian monarchy thru lies, bending of laws, force, manipulation.
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Reply #9 posted 02/25/10 6:48am

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Wow do I really have to get history lessons in a Prince thread... lol

I'm danish, and no I'm not expert in ww2 history - my school teacher from the late 1970s was horrible - and I have never catched interest in history, and no you are right, Bart: I haven't seen the Pearl Harbour movie - or any other (older) movie(s) related to that, if that is what you ask..... I hate everything related to war, violence etc. Of course history is important, I am just not that interested in reading about it or watch movies, I avoid the war movies especially - if that's what you wanna know. I have other interests, and I'm confident with that wink

[Enough of defending myself...]


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Reply #10 posted 02/25/10 6:52am

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OldFriends4Sale said:

erik319 said:

Just re read my post and it looks like I'm on some sort of anti America rant. haha. sorry about that, wasn't the intention at all. Just every time the phrase 'Pearl Harbor' is mentioned, I get flashbacks to that dreadful film that attempted to rewrite history.

I'm glad you guys showed up... better late than never razz

Erik



lol

I actually saw a history program on Hawaii last week and the way the American government ended up owning the Pearl Harbor, then when the Harbor was bombed it was almost like:reaping what you sow

the American government got the Pearl Harbor from the native Hawaiian monarchy thru lies, bending of laws, force, manipulation.


And now we have our anti-America rant. rolleyes
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it means TIGER TIGER TIGER!

which is code for ATTACK! lol
''now watch what you say or they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, a fanatical criminal''
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Reply #12 posted 02/25/10 7:13am

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Genesia said:

OldFriends4Sale said:




lol

I actually saw a history program on Hawaii last week and the way the American government ended up owning the Pearl Harbor, then when the Harbor was bombed it was almost like:reaping what you sow

the American government got the Pearl Harbor from the native Hawaiian monarchy thru lies, bending of laws, force, manipulation.


And now we have our anti-America rant. rolleyes


tell that to the native Hawaiian-Americans that are still dealing with the repercussians.

actually I'm very pro American, I Too Sing America, the ancestor of African slaves Blackfoot Natives and English & French immigrants

Just because it's true doesn't make it anti-American

White racists said the same about those in the Civil Rights movement when they brought up wrongs and injustices.
Check the show out it's very informative (History Channel)
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OldFriends4Sale said:

Genesia said:



And now we have our anti-America rant. rolleyes


tell that to the native Hawaiian-Americans that are still dealing with the repercussians.

actually I'm very pro American, I Too Sing America, the ancestor of African slaves Blackfoot Natives and English & French immigrants

Just because it's true doesn't make it anti-American

White racists said the same about those in the Civil Rights movement when they brought up wrongs and injustices.
Check the show out it's very informative (History Channel)


And...now someone's been called a racist. Lovely.
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Reply #14 posted 02/25/10 7:29am

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^^^^ hey girls and boys - please...

this is about the prince Tora Tora pseudonym,

not exactly about american history or politics.
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Reply #15 posted 02/25/10 7:32am

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Tell it to Mr. Race Card. rolleyes
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Reply #16 posted 02/25/10 7:35am

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^ ok, but don't be so sensitive,

I think OF4S was talking in general terms. > Not calling you a racist...

- just as long as this thread is not moved to "off topic"....

or: politics & Religion... wink


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Reply #17 posted 02/25/10 7:42am

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Zinzi said:

it means TIGER TIGER TIGER!

which is code for ATTACK!
lol



Thank you..... I wasn't totally wrong then. wink




thedance said:


My guess is something like "Attack Attack"... ?
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Reply #18 posted 02/25/10 7:45am

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Genesia said:

OldFriends4Sale said:



tell that to the native Hawaiian-Americans that are still dealing with the repercussians.

actually I'm very pro American, I Too Sing America, the ancestor of African slaves Blackfoot Natives and English & French immigrants

Just because it's true doesn't make it anti-American

White racists said the same about those in the Civil Rights movement when they brought up wrongs and injustices.
Check the show out it's very informative (History Channel)


And...now someone's been called a racist. Lovely.


who called U a racist??
U're being waaaaayyyyy 2 sensitive
That was not directed at your person or character

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Reply #19 posted 02/25/10 7:48am

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Genesia said:

Tell it to Mr. Race Card. rolleyes



U have a quote about Government:Giving money and power to government is like giving whisky and car keys to teenage boys.

Some people would say your being Anti-American

and it's in agreement with what I'm saying, what I watched about the development of Hawaii and I'm pulling a race card? Do u even know what that means? it's not about race, the same thing applies to the poor, women, immigrants, non Christian etc etc lol ... hmmmm maybe u do have underlying issues u need 2 deal with, but not here razz
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