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Printable Tremolina said: He has not much more time to explain his side of the story properly.
geez... the trial just started... Change it one more time.. | |
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This was featured on the national new tonight.... Might be avaiable at RTE.ie - 6 one news (not sure if it;s available outside Ireland?)
The agent claims he had dinner twice in Prince's house and nothing was mentioned about cancelling Dublin. He said conversations at dinner were usually about world issues, politics / religion and his last dinner there Prince got up and left and later got a security guard to go back and tell him dinner had ended? When asked "Why didn't you call Prince back to talk business?" the agent said "Nobody calls Prince back!" | |
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unique said: roseberet said: Hi unique been a long time since...Why dont we all go over to the Irish court and do a GIG lol !! May even Prince might turn up WOW   two of prince's biggest loser fans are from ireland, so i tend to steer clear next weekend in paris though is where the party be, 8 hours of prince music and videos [Edited 2/24/10 7:54am] Hmm we all know how the prissy French love to let their hair down. Wooh! party!! .....NOT | |
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Gav said: Rorywan said: So who supplied THE CONCERT PROMOTER with all the official material to promote the gig? The booking agents (in this case WMEE) No he didn't - I was heavily involved in all this madness (remember my tons of posts warning people about cancellation that many (including yourself) rubbished and can categorically say that the TV spots and posters were commissioned and produced without Prince's personal involvement. Rorywan said:  "Dunce" - What an absolute childish response when someone merely answered your question. Gav is on the money here. Also, upon years of observation, Gav is never shy to critique Prince if he feels it necessary. He is far from a sychophant. And yes, I read well ahead of time via Gav, that this concert would not be going ahead. | |
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SquirrelMeat said: Sorry, Gav is spot on on this one.
Anyone else remember the grief he got for trying to give fans a heads up on this? Heads were buried in sand that month. Lucky for me I knew he wouldn't have piped up on a whim, so I cancelled my hotel room just in time. Regardless, the whole cock up could have been avoided easily if Prince had come clean....Just like the the other gigs where he pulled this type of stunt. Agreed. | |
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OperatingThetan said: Gav said: "Dunce" - What an absolute childish response when someone merely answered your question. Gav is on the money here. Also, upon years of observation, Gav is never shy to critique Prince if he feels it necessary. He is far from a sychophant. And yes, I read well ahead of time via Gav, that this concert would not be going ahead. i was the man who broke the Xclusive NEWS that the show was booked and happening.....lol not my fault prince pulled out.....lol he is finished N ireland now N his name is tarnished N promoter circles.... love N kisses WOLFY  Welcome 2 wolfys lair!! Make love not war!!!
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Here's the latest update -
Court hears of Prince concert booking Wednesday, 24 February 2010 20:05 Lawyers for the popstar Prince have told the Commercial Court that 'not one line' of an artist's contract was drafted for the singer to play at Croke Park in June 2008. Counsel for Prince, Paul Sreenan, made the observation on the second day of an action by promoters MCD for €1.7m against Prince and his agent. The singer is claiming agents WME had no authority to commit him to the performance. AdvertisementMr Sreenan put it to Keith Sarkisian of WME that 'not one line' of an artist's contract was drafted by WME for the concert. He said there were examples of the agency 'running ahead of its clients' instructions' and suggested that WME was under pressure to confirm Dublin to generate momentum for other European performances. Mr Sarkisian denied that he knew as early as 6 May that Prince was not doing the Dublin date and that he kept that information from MCD. He said he understood it to be 'a wobble', as there were always wobbles when Prince was involved and the singer tended to do things at short notice. He said the informal nature of negotiations with artists and promoters did not mean they as agents were careless or reckless. He agreed with Mr Justice Peter Kelly that the industry operated on 'my word is my bond' basis. When asked by Mr Justice Peter Kelly if Prince was an erratic person to deal with, Mr Sakisian said he would not say erratic because that might mean totally crazy but that 'Prince did things in Prince's way'. Earlier, the court heard details of dinner dates Mr Sarkisian had with Prince. The witness said the star never mentioned cancelling the Croke Park concert during two dinner dates he had with him in 2008. Keith Sarkisian was asked by Mr Justice Peter Kelly about the atmosphere at one of the dinners, which took place a short time after tickets went on sale for the Croke Park concert. Mr Sarkisian said there was no indication from the singer that there was any problem with the plans. |
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This is the best thread ever!  "My God it's full of Stars"
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Prince comes across as a major tool in these news stories, I was watching the 6-1 news with my folks and they were like "how can you like this guy", I told them he's one of the best ever, and I love his childish behaviour, even though I'm one of the fans who were meant to go to the Croker gig. Man I wish it happend, Ill never see Prince  | |
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colm said: Here's the latest update -
Court hears of Prince concert booking Wednesday, 24 February 2010 20:05 Lawyers for the popstar Prince have told the Commercial Court that 'not one line' of an artist's contract was drafted for the singer to play at Croke Park in June 2008. Counsel for Prince, Paul Sreenan, made the observation on the second day of an action by promoters MCD for €1.7m against Prince and his agent. The singer is claiming agents WME had no authority to commit him to the performance. AdvertisementMr Sreenan put it to Keith Sarkisian of WME that 'not one line' of an artist's contract was drafted by WME for the concert. He said there were examples of the agency 'running ahead of its clients' instructions' and suggested that WME was under pressure to confirm Dublin to generate momentum for other European performances. Mr Sarkisian denied that he knew as early as 6 May that Prince was not doing the Dublin date and that he kept that information from MCD. He said he understood it to be 'a wobble', as there were always wobbles when Prince was involved and the singer tended to do things at short notice. He said the informal nature of negotiations with artists and promoters did not mean they as agents were careless or reckless. He agreed with Mr Justice Peter Kelly that the industry operated on 'my word is my bond' basis. When asked by Mr Justice Peter Kelly if Prince was an erratic person to deal with, Mr Sakisian said he would not say erratic because that might mean totally crazy but that 'Prince did things in Prince's way'. Earlier, the court heard details of dinner dates Mr Sarkisian had with Prince. The witness said the star never mentioned cancelling the Croke Park concert during two dinner dates he had with him in 2008. Keith Sarkisian was asked by Mr Justice Peter Kelly about the atmosphere at one of the dinners, which took place a short time after tickets went on sale for the Croke Park concert. Mr Sarkisian said there was no indication from the singer that there was any problem with the plans. Thanks for the updates. | |
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purplecorvette1 said: colm said: Here's the latest update -
Court hears of Prince concert booking Wednesday, 24 February 2010 20:05 Lawyers for the popstar Prince have told the Commercial Court that 'not one line' of an artist's contract was drafted for the singer to play at Croke Park in June 2008. Counsel for Prince, Paul Sreenan, made the observation on the second day of an action by promoters MCD for €1.7m against Prince and his agent. The singer is claiming agents WME had no authority to commit him to the performance. AdvertisementMr Sreenan put it to Keith Sarkisian of WME that 'not one line' of an artist's contract was drafted by WME for the concert. He said there were examples of the agency 'running ahead of its clients' instructions' and suggested that WME was under pressure to confirm Dublin to generate momentum for other European performances. Mr Sarkisian denied that he knew as early as 6 May that Prince was not doing the Dublin date and that he kept that information from MCD. He said he understood it to be 'a wobble', as there were always wobbles when Prince was involved and the singer tended to do things at short notice. He said the informal nature of negotiations with artists and promoters did not mean they as agents were careless or reckless. He agreed with Mr Justice Peter Kelly that the industry operated on 'my word is my bond' basis. When asked by Mr Justice Peter Kelly if Prince was an erratic person to deal with, Mr Sakisian said he would not say erratic because that might mean totally crazy but that 'Prince did things in Prince's way'. Earlier, the court heard details of dinner dates Mr Sarkisian had with Prince. The witness said the star never mentioned cancelling the Croke Park concert during two dinner dates he had with him in 2008. Keith Sarkisian was asked by Mr Justice Peter Kelly about the atmosphere at one of the dinners, which took place a short time after tickets went on sale for the Croke Park concert. Mr Sarkisian said there was no indication from the singer that there was any problem with the plans. Thanks for the updates. Pleasure  |
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Tremolina said: In court it doesn't matter what cooky way Prince wants you to do business with you and whatever superstar nonsense he feels he is entitled to as opposed to ordinairy people. If he entered into an agreement, he must live up to it. Exactly. Unfortunately a lot of times people with means (e.g. $) get away with all sorts of things ordinary people don't. The check. The string he dropped. The Mona Lisa. The musical notes taken out of a hat. The glass. The toy shotgun painting. The things he found. Therefore, everything seen–every object, that is, plus the process of looking at it–is a Duchamp. | |
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colm said: Here's the latest update -
Court hears of Prince concert booking Wednesday, 24 February 2010 20:05 Lawyers for the popstar Prince have told the Commercial Court that 'not one line' of an artist's contract was drafted for the singer to play at Croke Park in June 2008. Counsel for Prince, Paul Sreenan, made the observation on the second day of an action by promoters MCD for €1.7m against Prince and his agent. The singer is claiming agents WME had no authority to commit him to the performance. AdvertisementMr Sreenan put it to Keith Sarkisian of WME that 'not one line' of an artist's contract was drafted by WME for the concert. He said there were examples of the agency 'running ahead of its clients' instructions' and suggested that WME was under pressure to confirm Dublin to generate momentum for other European performances. Mr Sarkisian denied that he knew as early as 6 May that Prince was not doing the Dublin date and that he kept that information from MCD. He said he understood it to be 'a wobble', as there were always wobbles when Prince was involved and the singer tended to do things at short notice. He said the informal nature of negotiations with artists and promoters did not mean they as agents were careless or reckless. He agreed with Mr Justice Peter Kelly that the industry operated on 'my word is my bond' basis. When asked by Mr Justice Peter Kelly if Prince was an erratic person to deal with, Mr Sakisian said he would not say erratic because that might mean totally crazy but that 'Prince did things in Prince's way'. Earlier, the court heard details of dinner dates Mr Sarkisian had with Prince. The witness said the star never mentioned cancelling the Croke Park concert during two dinner dates he had with him in 2008. Keith Sarkisian was asked by Mr Justice Peter Kelly about the atmosphere at one of the dinners, which took place a short time after tickets went on sale for the Croke Park concert. Mr Sarkisian said there was no indication from the singer that there was any problem with the plans. Prince's defense is about a CONtract? Surely anyone working with him would know CONtracts are unnecessary. Studies have shown the ass crack of the average Prince fan to be abnormally large. This explains the ease and frequency of their panties bunching up in it. |
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moderatoreireboy34 said: joanne55555 said: maybe he was too scared to come to Ireland, what with all the bombs and all....
 Now apart from the lawyers we have the politicial experts   Did anyone think he may have been too sick to play? How about that?  Can happen. People assume its because hes rude that he didnt play. Get the facts 1st. IF you can... May the BELLS ring 4 U even when ur not in love.   | |
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grandebelle said: eireboy34 said: Now apart from the lawyers we have the politicial experts Did anyone think he may have been too sick to play? How about that? Can happen. People assume its because hes rude that he didnt play. Get the facts 1st. IF you can... i guess its good 2 b HIP these days N medical circles...lol WOLFY Welcome 2 wolfys lair!! Make love not war!!!
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I love the name 'Goldring' it sounds straight out of one of Prince's anti-semitic diatribes on the Rainbow Children. | |
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grandebelle said: eireboy34 said: Now apart from the lawyers we have the politicial experts Did anyone think he may have been too sick to play? How about that? Can happen. People assume its because hes rude that he didnt play. Get the facts 1st. IF you can... no. he would have made an announcement, they could have claimed the insurance, and they could have rescheduled. prince rarely cancels a gig due to health reasons | |
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It's too bad Dublin didn't get a chance to see Prince. Based on the recent Paris shows, here's a probable setlist for what you Dubliners missed:
1. Turn the lights off! 2. Turn the keyboards up! 3. Turn the harmonica up! 4. I said, turn the goddamn lights off! 5. Backup singer, you sing something while I talk over you 6. Turn my guitar up! 7. Why the fuck are the lights still on? | |
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Mars23 said: squirrelgrease said: This could be juicy.
An early peek: Prince:  no said  , but  when  .
Morris: What the fuck are you trying to say? I'm not going to be out 1.6 mil cause you can't type like an adult. fuck  | |
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I don't see how the emails between Prince and Goldring matter if Goldring didn't have the authority to work a deal on Prince's behalf. I doubt there was a contract for this, and certainly Prince didn't sign anything.
Emails aren't agreed upon contracts are they? 
I could be missing something though--I'm no legal expert. | |
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At the time there was a lot of talk of the tickets not selling well due to being overpriced. So I can't really blame Prince for not wanting to play to a half-filled Croker, that'd be pretty embarrassing. At least we all got our ticket money refunded.
I felt that playing Croke Park was a bit too ambitious for Prince in 2008 anyway. The days of filling the RDS or Pairc Ui Chaoimh are long past. PS I'm calling off the hit on Unique for now, stand down Fenian soldiers | |
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Mars23 said: squirrelgrease said: This could be juicy.
An early peek: Prince: no said , but when .
Morris: What the fuck are you trying to say? I'm not going to be out 1.6 mil cause you can't type like an adult.  "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." |
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Efan said: It's too bad Dublin didn't get a chance to see Prince. Based on the recent Paris shows, here's a probable setlist for what you Dubliners missed:
1. Turn the lights off! 2. Turn the keyboards up! 3. Turn the harmonica up! 4. I said, turn the goddamn lights off! 5. Backup singer, you sing something while I talk over you 6. Turn my guitar up! 7. Why the fuck are the lights still on? Sounds just like his gigs at 02 "My God it's full of Stars"
Indigo Club, September 21st 2008, 4.24am | |
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OperatingThetan said: Gav said: "Dunce" - What an absolute childish response when someone merely answered your question. Gav is on the money here. Also, upon years of observation, Gav is never shy to critique Prince if he feels it necessary. He is far from a sychophant. And yes, I read well ahead of time via Gav, that this concert would not be going ahead. Never intetested in dismemberering an old HQ vetern, they do that all on their own. "My God it's full of Stars"
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TheVoid said: I don't see how the emails between Prince and Goldring matter if Goldring didn't have the authority to work a deal on Prince's behalf. I doubt there was a contract for this, and certainly Prince didn't sign anything.
Emails aren't agreed upon contracts are they?
I could be missing something though--I'm no legal expert. Emails can be entered into court as evidence  
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Efan said: It's too bad Dublin didn't get a chance to see Prince. Based on the recent Paris shows, here's a probable setlist for what you Dubliners missed:
1. Turn the lights off! 2. Turn the keyboards up! 3. Turn the harmonica up! 4. I said, turn the goddamn lights off! 5. Backup singer, you sing something while I talk over you 6. Turn my guitar up! 7. Why the fuck are the lights still on?
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joanne55555 said: maybe he was too scared to come to Ireland, what with all the bombs and all....
Cont. | |
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grandebelle said: eireboy34 said: Now apart from the lawyers we have the politicial experts Did anyone think he may have been too sick to play? How about that? Can happen. People assume its because hes rude that he didnt play. Get the facts 1st. IF you can... "That's just Prince" really should stop being okay with us. | |
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Mr. Justice Kelly sounds like the name of a super hero or something. Prince, in you I found a kindred spirit...Rest In Paradise. | |
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