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unique said: Gav said: He hasn't done a single one off show (outside of his home state) since December 2007. Montreux was 2 shows, Monaco 3, and Paris 4. Stadium gigs are very different economics in the case of logistics and gear, especially when in a different continent and very hard to justify for a "one off". i would do a one off stadium show for $3m. if prince don't want the money, i'm totally up for it. even if libby and wolfy will be there I'll do support for €20. |
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gavinreid said: Good on MCD. Looks like they got some money out of the little tightwad. [Edited 2/26/10 6:12am] |
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swanny said: gavinreid said: Good on MCD. Looks like they got some money out of the little tightwad. [Edited 2/26/10 6:12am] I figured it would go there, it was a gamble on both parts, everybody cuts losses and avoids paying more legal fees. Forget the verdict, the legal fees alone will kill you. Most times its easier and cheaper to settle than a long protracted legal fight. Mr Desmond added on Friday that he was "a very chilled cat".
I KNOW there will a song about chilled cats sometime in the near future. [Edited 2/26/10 6:29am] | |
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Prince & MCD settle concert case
Friday, 26 February 2010 14:06 A legal action by promoters MCD against the singer Prince and his agent has been settled at the Commercial Court. MCD had sued the singer and his agents William Morris Endeavor Entertainment for €1.7m over the cancellation of a concert at Croke Park in 2008. The details of the settlement have not been disclosed but afterwards Denis Desmond of MCD said he was relieved it was over and that MCD was not out of pocket. Mr Desmond said he looked forward to doing business with Prince in the future, but said if he was Prince, he would get a good manager. He said he was still disappointed for the fans over the cancellation, but said systems had not been changed for booking acts as this was a unique situation. During the case it emerged that Prince had spoken about Mr Desmond and said 'tell the cat to chill, we will work something out.' Mr Desmond added today that he was 'a very chilled cat'. |
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Court action against Prince settled
Pop superstar Prince has settled his action with promoters MCD over his decision to cancel a concert at Croke Park in June 2008. At the High Court this morning, MCD counsel Michael Collins said the case had been settled, and asked that it be put in for mention in a month’s time to allow for the completion of the settlement. Prince was sued by MCD for his refusal to play a concert at Croke Park scheduled for June 16th. MCD had claimed €1.7 million in damages plus costs. The Purple Rain star only confirmed cancellation 13 days before hand and offered no explanation. His counsel Paul Sreenan SC confirmed that a settlement had been reached. Mr Justice Peter Kelly asked if the settlement had been “confirmed” and if so, did the verb confirmed “in Prince speak mean the same as it means in English?” Mr Sreenan said it had been confirmed “in a different sense to how it had been confirmed on the previous occasion”. Mr Sreenan was referring to an email sent by Prince’s assistant Ruth Arzate confirming that the Dublin concert would be going ahead. Mr Justice Kelly said he was glad that the parties had reached a settlement and he stood the matter over until March 26th to allow the terms of settlement to be implemented. No details of the settlement were announced in court. MCD promoter Denis Desmond said he was “delighted” with the outcome, but sad for the 55,000 fans who had bought tickets for the event. He said MCD would not be out of pocket as a result of the action. Mr Desmond said he was particularly happy that the damages he sought were agreed between both parties and were not inflated as had been suggested at an earlier hearing. He said he would “gladly” have Prince to play a concert in Ireland and urged him to get a good manager. |
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swanny said: gavinreid said: Good on MCD. Looks like they got some money out of the little tightwad. [Edited 2/26/10 6:12am] Bad for Dublin ....No more candy....or concert taking place ....MCD really don't give a damn about the fans.....and with the MCD mob controlling most of the concerts over there, it's not good news... 
Whatever they got it sure was less than what they wanted - blood sucking agents / managers / record company's .....damn Prince has to tight or he would be broke like most of the artist in his industry ....wake and smell the coffee  Da, Da, Da....Emancipation....Free..don't think I ain't..! London 21 Nights...Clap your hands...you know the rest..
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funny how other acts seem to manage ok.
Stop falling for Prince's lies. |
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violetblues said:[quote] swanny said: I figured it would go there, it was a gamble on both parts, everybody cuts losses and avoids paying more legal fees. Forget the verdict, the legal fees alone will kill you. Most times its easier and cheaper to settle than a long protracted legal fight. Mr Desmond added on Friday that he was "a very chilled cat".
I KNOW there will a song about chilled cats sometime in the near future. [b][Edited 2/26/10 6:29am]
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Mr Desmond obviously has a sense of humour. lol. |
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Yup, all over the news here. MCD received an undisclosed amount from Prince.
Good. Cause & Effect, Mr Nelson, cause and effect.  "My God it's full of Stars"
Indigo Club, September 21st 2008, 4.24am | |
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Rorywan said: Yup, all over the news here. MCD received an undisclosed amount from Prince.
Good. Cause & Effect, Mr Nelson, cause and effect. Yep, the song seems to be Prince's "Hello" for this fiasco [Edited 2/26/10 7:04am] | |
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swanny said: funny how other acts seem to manage ok.
Stop falling for Prince's lies. Really....oh your talking about the record company backed act's ....trust me they are not managing as well as Prince at the moment...and he's indie Da, Da, Da....Emancipation....Free..don't think I ain't..! London 21 Nights...Clap your hands...you know the rest..
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Pop superstar Prince has settled his action with promoters MCD over his decision to cancel a concert at Croke Park in June 2008.
So he took a loss. What would he learn from that? Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill... If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry. | |
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udo said: Pop superstar Prince has settled his action with promoters MCD over his decision to cancel a concert at Croke Park in June 2008.
So he took a loss. What would he learn from that? Nobody knows if he took a loss as it's out of court, MCD went into court asking for 1.7m did they get it .....NO ....what did they get a sum that was less and more than likely fair to both sides which cover any costs they may have had or given to Prince so he's not lost anything he just given them back the money given to him in contract which must have had some cancellation cause. Da, Da, Da....Emancipation....Free..don't think I ain't..! London 21 Nights...Clap your hands...you know the rest..
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colm said: Mr Desmond said he looked forward to doing business with Prince in the future, but said if he was Prince, he would get a good manager. He said he was still disappointed for the fans over the cancellation, but said systems had not been changed for booking acts as this was a unique situation. i just want to make it clear that this had nothing to do with me. it was all wolfys fault | |
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LondonStyle said: udo said: Pop superstar Prince has settled his action with promoters MCD over his decision to cancel a concert at Croke Park in June 2008.
So he took a loss. What would he learn from that? Nobody knows if he took a loss as it's out of court, MCD went into court asking for 1.7m did they get it .....NO ....what did they get a sum that was less and more than likely fair to both sides which cover any costs they may have had or given to Prince so he's not lost anything he just given them back the money given to him in contract which must have had some cancellation cause. No, i don't believe thats correct. The Money paid to Prince/WME in advance of the gig had already been returned. MCD were going for costs and damages. Money they had lost because of Prince canceling. This has cost Prince/WME a lot of money. Any money he has been forced to pay MCD is a loss for Prince. Glad to see him officially taken down for his behaviour. I would love to think he has learnt from it, but I doubt he could care less apart from the bad press. "My God it's full of Stars"
Indigo Club, September 21st 2008, 4.24am | |
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unique said: colm said: Mr Desmond said he looked forward to doing business with Prince in the future, but said if he was Prince, he would get a good manager. He said he was still disappointed for the fans over the cancellation, but said systems had not been changed for booking acts as this was a unique situation. i just want to make it clear that this had nothing to do with me. it was all wolfys fault Don't mention w...., it's like Candyman say his name out loud and he appears.... "My God it's full of Stars"
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Indigo Club, September 21st 2008, 4.24am | |
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My guess is he took a loss - and I guess he has been advised to settle along with the other defendant and get out of it as cheaply as possible
The judge didnt sound too impressed given his comments to the Barristers when the settlement was announced; his comment about 'confirmed' in Prince's way says a lot ; this will have been obvious to both sides as the trial was going on ; and likely they Defendant counsel advised it was better out cheaper than paying full whack in damages I guess P will take it on the chin and the Claimant will feel vindicated to some extent; its business. [Edited 2/26/10 8:06am] | |
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Rorywan said: LondonStyle said: Nobody knows if he took a loss as it's out of court, MCD went into court asking for 1.7m did they get it .....NO ....what did they get a sum that was less and more than likely fair to both sides which cover any costs they may have had or given to Prince so he's not lost anything he just given them back the money given to him in contract which must have had some cancellation cause. No, i don't believe thats correct. The Money paid to Prince/WME in advance of the gig had already been returned. MCD were going for costs and damages. Money they had lost because of Prince canceling. This has cost Prince/WME a lot of money. Any money he has been forced to pay MCD is a loss for Prince. Glad to see him officially taken down for his behaviour. I would love to think he has learnt from it, but I doubt he could care less apart from the bad press. That's not what the press release said ? Da, Da, Da....Emancipation....Free..don't think I ain't..! London 21 Nights...Clap your hands...you know the rest..
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VinylFunk said: theRight1 said: I'm happy it's gone. People haven't even heard his new song Cause and Effect and they have so much to say about it. The last thing I want to read is a 15 page thread about some blonde Prince supposedly had dinner with in Dublin. I meant the fact that he was IN Dublin... Not so much about a chic  You know I noticed it, my mind said, "Whatever. It's business."   | |
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Rorywan said: unique said: two of prince's biggest loser fans are from ireland, so i tend to steer clear next weekend in paris though is where the party be, 8 hours of prince music and videos [Edited 2/24/10 7:54am] There are a lot of Irish fans on here who would find that very offensive. Unique, what has happened?, I've read your posts on here for quite a long time, ur replies are normally intelligent insightful (especially legal aspects) why are you being so bitchy? YO cooldown "eveythings gonna be alright" no fight Peace. [Edited 2/24/10 8:47am]   kissberry | |
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jone70 said: colm said: Here's the latest...
Court hears of Prince concert booking Wednesday, 24 February 2010 12:50 The Commercial Court has been hearing details of dinner dates with the pop superstar Prince in a legal action over a cancelled concert. An executive with the William Morris Endeavor Entertainment (WME), which acted for the singer, has described how the popstar never mentioned cancelling the Croke Park concert during two dinner dates he had with him in 2008. The executive was giving evidence in the second day of an action by promoters MCD for €1.7m in compensation against Prince and his agents. Prince, whose full name is Prince Rogers Nelson, claims the agents had no authority to confirm the concert. Keith Sarkisian was asked by Mr Justice Peter Kelly about the atmosphere at one of the dinners, which took place a short time after tickets went on sale for the Croke Park concert. Mr Sarkisian said there was no indication from the singer that there was any problem with the plans. At the second dinner in the singer's home he said the opportunity to discuss the concerts did not arise, as the singer left the room after dinner and his security guard returned to thank him and tell him the dinner was over. Asked by his counsel if he asked him to return to discuss matters, Mr Sarkisian said: 'You don't tell Prince to come back'. Mr Sarkisian outlined a number of emails to Prince's personal assistant Ruth Arzate during which he says the Dublin concert was clearly confirmed. As they started to have difficulty getting a final say on other European dates he was advised by Ms Arzate to send a note to Prince. He said he had to be careful how to write the note and normally took direction from Ms Arzate who would 'interpret' for them. He said he was told not to try to force an answer from the artist as it would probably make him do the opposite. However he said at no stage in the process was it mentioned that Dublin would be cancelled and he was sending regular updates on tickets sales to Prince's personal assistant. The first time he was definitively told that Prince would not be going to Dublin was at a meeting on 3 June. He said at this meeting Prince was agitated when presented with his options on canceling the concert and said 'you guys got me into this'. He was also willing to speak to Denis Desmond and said: 'tell him he'll have to chill'. During cross-examination by counsel for MCD, Mr Sarkisian said at all times they acted as agents for Prince. Asked if he was still the singer's agent he said: 'technically yes'. It was put to him that Prince's name was still on WME's website and he replied: 'well I think Elvis is still on our website'. However he said at all times WME acted on Prince's behalf and with his consent and everyone understood this both before and after tickets for the Dublin gig went on sale. The WME Executive's testimony is really telling. It shows that Prince seems to think certain rules don't apply to him and that he can do whatever he wants regardless of how it affects others. Of course, we sort of already knew this, didn't we? And what else would you expect from someone who's lived in his own world, firing anyone who dared to tell him, "No" since the age of 18. 
. [Edited 2/24/10 9:26am] SILENCE IS GOLDEN  kissberry | |
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unique said: grandebelle said: Did anyone think he may have been too sick to play? How about that? Can happen. People assume its because hes rude that he didnt play. Get the facts 1st. IF you can...  no. he would have made an announcement, they could have claimed the insurance, and they could have rescheduled. prince rarely cancels a gig due to health reasons I know a lot of mthfuc.. like 2 keep P walm while h'es sick in bes WOW never mind the microbes let it roll  kissberry | |
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unique said: grandebelle said: Did anyone think he may have been too sick to play? How about that? Can happen. People assume its because hes rude that he didnt play. Get the facts 1st. IF you can... no. he would have made an announcement, they could have claimed the insurance, and they could have rescheduled. prince rarely cancels a gig due to health reasons I knox alot of mthfuc.who'd luv 2 warm P in bed WOW nevermind the microbes  kissberry | |
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eireboy34 said: unique said: two of prince's biggest loser fans are from ireland, so i tend to steer clear next weekend in paris though is where the party be, 8 hours of prince music and videos [Edited 2/24/10 7:54am] Hmm we all know how the prissy French love to let their hair down. MMMMHH YES sex in the city ooohh ouiiiii Wooh! party!! .....NOT kissberry | |
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Can I have a pint of whatever roseberet's on please !
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gavinreid said: I think we, sort of, know the truth already. If there really were never any confirmation, the case wouldn't have been settled, so there was. Due to the cooky ways of communicating, Prince probably didn't realise in time that Dublin had been confirmed by WME already, however without any other European shows. He didn't want that so then he wanted to cancel, but that was just a little bit too late. Smart move, especially since Prince already said they were going to work something out with "that cat" desmond. Mr Desmond added on Friday that he was "a very chilled cat".  yeah I bet!
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udo said: Pop superstar Prince has settled his action with promoters MCD over his decision to cancel a concert at Croke Park in June 2008.
So he took a loss. What would he learn from that? Hopefully to start communicating better, but I doubt it. | |
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