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Reply #30 posted 02/15/10 2:06pm

ernestsewell

Here is the source I pulled from, which I find to be highly reliable.

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Reply #31 posted 02/15/10 2:07pm

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motherfunka said:

Some cool oddities I found researching this:

02Dec84 / Maple Leaf Gardens, Toronto, ON - Under the Cherry Moon, Free, I Wanna Be Your Lover

09Dec84 / Rosemont Horizon, Chicago, IL - Condition of the Heart, Dirty Mind

26Dec85 / Civic Center, St Paul, MN - Free, Dirty Mind, I Wanna Be Your Lover, Another Lonely Christmas

31Dec85 / Reunion Arena, Dallas, TX - Something In the Water (Does Not Compute), Dirty Mind, I Wanna Be Your Lover, Auld Lang Syne

16Jan85 / The Summit, Houston, TX - Controversy, Blue Limousine

23Feb85 / Inglewood Forum, Los Angeles, CA - 4 The Tears In Your Eyes, A Case of You, Free, Raspberry Beret, Partyup, America

28Feb85 / Cow Palace, San Francisco, CA - When You Were Mine, Head, With You, Free, Ice Cream Castles

01Mar85 / Cow Palace, San Franscico, CA - Condtion of the Heart

03Mar85 / Cow Palace, San Francisco, CA - Controversy, Ice Cream Castles, Raspberry Beret

04Mar85 / Cow Palace, San Francisco, CA - 17 Days, America

05Mar85 / Cow Palace, San Francisco, CA - 17 Days, When the Saints Go Marching In

20Mar85 / Nassau Coliseum, Uniondale, NY - 17 Days, All the Critics Love U In New York

23Mar85 / Nassau Coliseum, Uniondale, NY - All the Critics Love U In New York, Condtion of the Heart, Raspberry Beret, Head, America, When the Saints Go Marching In

26Mar85 / Civic Center, Hartford, CT - Controversy, Free, Noon Rendezvous, America, When the Saints Go Marching In

27Mar85 / Centrum, Worcester, MA - Free, Noon Rendezvous, America, When the Saints Go Marching In

Temptation was also played on several shows, but with just a few spoken lines with Prince on piano.

Great list!
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Reply #32 posted 02/15/10 4:20pm

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ernestsewell said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

February 23. 1985 Inglewood Forum Los Angeles

This is the only show I have with songs from ATWIAD

The only show you have, yet how many dates were on the PR tour? Better yet, since the Feb show was near the end of the show, how many dates came after the one you have there? This many:

    24 FEB, 1985 ::::: Inglewood, CA, USA – The Forum
    27 FEB, 1985 ::::: Daly City, CA, USA – Cow Palace
    28 FEB, 1985 ::::: Daly City, CA, USA – Cow Palace
    01 MAR, 1985 ::::: Daly City, CA, USA – Cow Palace
    03 MAR, 1985 ::::: Daly City, CA, USA – Cow Palace (m)
    04 MAR, 1985 ::::: Daly City, CA, USA – Cow Palace
    05 MAR, 1985 ::::: Daly City, CA, USA – Cow Palace
    07 MAR, 1985 ::::: Las Cruces, NM, USA – NMSU Pan Am Center
    08 MAR, 1985 ::::: Las Cruces, NM, USA – NMSU Pan Am Center
    10 MAR, 1985 ::::: Long Beach, CA, USA – Long Beach Arena
    11 MAR, 1985 ::::: Long Beach, CA, USA – Long Beach Arena
    12 MAR, 1985 ::::: Long Beach, CA, USA – Long Beach Arena
    17 MAR, 1985 ::::: Uniondale, NY, USA – Nassau Veterans Memorial Coliseum
    18 MAR, 1985 ::::: Uniondale, NY, USA – Nassau Veterans Memorial Coliseum
    20 MAR, 1985 ::::: Uniondale, NY, USA – Nassau Veterans Memorial Coliseum
    22 MAR, 1985 ::::: Uniondale, NY, USA – Nassau Veterans Memorial Coliseum
    23 MAR, 1985 ::::: Uniondale, NY, USA – Nassau Veterans Memorial Coliseum
    24 MAR, 1985 ::::: Uniondale, NY, USA – Nassau Veterans Memorial Coliseum (m)
    26 MAR, 1985 ::::: Hartford, CT, USA – Hartford Civic Center
    27 MAR, 1985 ::::: Worcester, MA, USA – Worcester Centrum
    28 MAR, 1985 ::::: Worcester, MA, USA – Worcester Centrum
    30 MAR, 1985 ::::: Syracuse, NY, USA – Carrier Dome
    01 APR, 1985 ::::: Indianapolis, IN, USA – Market Square Arena
    03 APR, 1985 ::::: Tallahassee, FL, USA – Tallahassee-Leon County Civic Center
    04 APR, 1985 ::::: Lakeland, FL, USA – Lakeland Civic Center
    05 APR, 1985 ::::: Lakeland, FL, USA – Lakeland Civic Center
    07 APR, 1985 ::::: Miami, FL, USA – Orange Bowl (as 'Purple Bowl Stadium')


And unless anyone can produce setlists for all these shows, it's a safe assumption that he it was during some of these shows that he started to pull out the new songs.


not the only show I have, I still haven't seen your 'proof'

ahh to late someone credible posted a show where Condition of the Heart was previewed,... that's all U had to do to start with kiddo
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Reply #33 posted 02/15/10 4:21pm

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ernestsewell said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

You're to argumentative kiddo, I never said (show me please) where I said the only ATWIAD song was America? I was talking about what I knew of...and I didn't have to spell all of that out either.

We are not talking abotu 4 the Tears in Your Eyes which is NOT a song from ATWIAD and is very much a part of the PR era musically and historically.
neither is Under the Cherry Moon from ATWIAD
hell he did some lines from Hot Thing during the Parade tour:Head performance

NightGod, post is the only other one that mentioned Raspberry Beret
And I don't believe you knew that either. Why couldn't u have just posted UR facts...where are they...

Why couldn't u just add your piece without being a dick?

Why are you so defensive, little one? Are you hurt because I laid out some facts?

I pulled my information, sans attitude, from Per Nilsen's DMSR book. Call him if you're upset about being proven wrong. You said:
the Syracuse 1985 show was a Purple Rain tour, America was the only one featured on the PR tour near the end of the tour

You were wrong. I said "that's not true". I don't remember calling you a dick or anything else, like you did - being argumentative, and such.

I listed "4 The Tears In Your Eyes", because 1) it was a 1985 era song, and 2) it was played on the tour as a then-unknown song. #2 was an added piece of information. I listed UTCM as yet another then-unknown song played on a tour a full year earlier (showing Prince was obviously recording new music while on tour).

You'd probably be less offended if you did the homework. I pull a lot of my answers from DMSR when I'm not sure, opposed to just laying out stuff like "the Syracuse 1985 show was a Purple Rain tour, America was the only one featured on the PR tour near the end of the tour " and calling it real.

You know, this isn't a contest to see who knows more Prince trivia. I couldn't care less who knows more. (However, my vote is for Boris Fishpaw or Squirrelgrease, off the top of my head.) You thought you knew something, you stand corrected. "America" wasn't the only ATWIAD song performed on the PR tour. End of story. We've all misspoke at times as well. To simply admit that and move on, it's called being an adult, kiddo.


Let It Go kiddo
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Reply #34 posted 02/15/10 4:23pm

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vivid said:

crokey20 said:



Yep, and when he premiered the Parade material at First Avenue



and an instrumental at Indigo2 '07 (after playing ATWIAD)


i was at that show on 2007 - 09 - 13 excited woot! biggrin

(btw i can hear myself shouting along to Party Up on the bootleg ; off key and off beat lol redface )
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Reply #35 posted 02/15/10 4:38pm

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OldFriends4Sale said:

not the only show I have, I still haven't seen your 'proof'

ahh to late someone credible posted a show where Condition of the Heart was previewed,... that's all U had to do to start with kiddo

I've given proof, little boy. You refuse to see it. You're wrong when you say "America" was the ONLY ATWIAD song played on the PR tour. End of story.
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Reply #36 posted 02/15/10 4:39pm

ernestsewell

OldFriends4Sale said:

Let It Go kiddo

hahaha it's cute how you keep using that, like it's your new Word Of The Day on your desk calendar. comfort
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Reply #37 posted 02/15/10 5:21pm

Dewrede

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OldFriends4Sale said:

ernestsewell said:


The only show you have, yet how many dates were on the PR tour? Better yet, since the Feb show was near the end of the show, how many dates came after the one you have there? This many:

    24 FEB, 1985 ::::: Inglewood, CA, USA – The Forum
    27 FEB, 1985 ::::: Daly City, CA, USA – Cow Palace
    28 FEB, 1985 ::::: Daly City, CA, USA – Cow Palace
    01 MAR, 1985 ::::: Daly City, CA, USA – Cow Palace
    03 MAR, 1985 ::::: Daly City, CA, USA – Cow Palace (m)
    04 MAR, 1985 ::::: Daly City, CA, USA – Cow Palace
    05 MAR, 1985 ::::: Daly City, CA, USA – Cow Palace
    07 MAR, 1985 ::::: Las Cruces, NM, USA – NMSU Pan Am Center
    08 MAR, 1985 ::::: Las Cruces, NM, USA – NMSU Pan Am Center
    10 MAR, 1985 ::::: Long Beach, CA, USA – Long Beach Arena
    11 MAR, 1985 ::::: Long Beach, CA, USA – Long Beach Arena
    12 MAR, 1985 ::::: Long Beach, CA, USA – Long Beach Arena
    17 MAR, 1985 ::::: Uniondale, NY, USA – Nassau Veterans Memorial Coliseum
    18 MAR, 1985 ::::: Uniondale, NY, USA – Nassau Veterans Memorial Coliseum
    20 MAR, 1985 ::::: Uniondale, NY, USA – Nassau Veterans Memorial Coliseum
    22 MAR, 1985 ::::: Uniondale, NY, USA – Nassau Veterans Memorial Coliseum
    23 MAR, 1985 ::::: Uniondale, NY, USA – Nassau Veterans Memorial Coliseum
    24 MAR, 1985 ::::: Uniondale, NY, USA – Nassau Veterans Memorial Coliseum (m)
    26 MAR, 1985 ::::: Hartford, CT, USA – Hartford Civic Center
    27 MAR, 1985 ::::: Worcester, MA, USA – Worcester Centrum
    28 MAR, 1985 ::::: Worcester, MA, USA – Worcester Centrum
    30 MAR, 1985 ::::: Syracuse, NY, USA – Carrier Dome
    01 APR, 1985 ::::: Indianapolis, IN, USA – Market Square Arena
    03 APR, 1985 ::::: Tallahassee, FL, USA – Tallahassee-Leon County Civic Center
    04 APR, 1985 ::::: Lakeland, FL, USA – Lakeland Civic Center
    05 APR, 1985 ::::: Lakeland, FL, USA – Lakeland Civic Center
    07 APR, 1985 ::::: Miami, FL, USA – Orange Bowl (as 'Purple Bowl Stadium')


And unless anyone can produce setlists for all these shows, it's a safe assumption that he it was during some of these shows that he started to pull out the new songs.


not the only show I have, I still haven't seen your 'proof'

ahh to late someone credible posted a show where Condition of the Heart was previewed,... that's all U had to do to start with kiddo




Ernest is right
here's even more proof rolleyes





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Reply #38 posted 02/15/10 5:37pm

Tame

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I Love, "Around the World in a day." cool
"The Lion Sleeps Tonight...
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Reply #39 posted 02/15/10 7:03pm

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ernestsewell said:

OldFriends4Sale said:




what's not true???
U need sleep bud?
I'll wait 4 u 2 go thru your shows... apology accepted in advance

I did. He played those ATWIAD songs on the PR tour, not just "America". Check your facts. There are even Orgers who have said they were at a PR show where they heard one of those songs.


I have the final show of the tour and he announces a new track from ATWIAD, "Temptation".
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Reply #40 posted 02/15/10 7:44pm

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The full tour schedule:

4 Nov 1984 Detroit MI Joe Louis Arena
5 Nov 1984 Detroit MI Joe Louis Arena
8 Nov 1984 Detroit MI Joe Louis Arena
9 Nov 1984 Detroit MI Joe Louis Arena
11 Nov 1984 Detroit MI Joe Louis Arena
14 Nov 1984 Greensboro NC Coliseum
15 Nov 1984 Greensboro NC Coliseum
16 Nov 1984 Greensboro NC Coliseum
18 Nov 1984 Landover MD Capital Centre
19 Nov 1984 Landover MD Capital Centre
20 Nov 1984 Landover MD Capital Centre
22 Nov 1984 Philadelphia PA Spectrum Arena
23 Nov 1984 Philadelphia PA Spectrum Arena
24 Nov 1984 Philadelphia PA Spectrum Arena
26 Nov 1984 Landover MD Capital Centre
28 Nov 1984 Landover MD Capital Centre
29 Nov 1984 Washington DC Gallaudet College
29 Nov 1984 Landover MD Capital Centre
30 Nov 1984 Landover MD Capital Centre
2 Dec 1984 Toronto ON Maple Leaf Gardens
3 Dec 1984 Toronto ON Maple Leaf Gardens
5 Dec 1984 Cleveland OH Richfield Coliseum
6 Dec 1984 Cleveland OH Richfield Coliseum
9 Dec 1984 Chicago IL Rosemont Horizon
10 Dec 1984 Chicago IL Rosemont Horizon
13 Dec 1984 Chicago IL Rosemont Horizon
14 Dec 1984 Chicago IL Rosemont Horizon
15 Dec 1984 Lexington KY Rupp Arena
17 Dec 1984 Buffalo NY Memorial Auditorium
18 Dec 1984 Buffalo NY Memorial Auditorium
20 Dec 1984 St. Louis MO Arena
21 Dec 1984 St. Louis MO Arena
23 Dec 1984 St. Paul MN Civic Center
24 Dec 1984 St. Paul MN Civic Center
26 Dec 1984 St. Paul MN Civic Center
28 Dec 1984 St. Paul MN Civic Center
30 Dec 1984 Dallas TX Reunion Arena
31 Dec 1984 Dallas TX Reunion Arena
1 Jan 1985 Dallas TX Reunion Arena
3 Jan 1985 Atlanta GA Omni
4 Jan 1985 Atlanta GA Omni
6 Jan 1985 Atlanta GA Omni
7 Jan 1985 Atlanta GA Omni
8 Jan 1985 Atlanta GA Omni
10 Jan 1985 Houston TX The Summit
11 Jan 1985 Houston TX The Summit
13 Jan 1985 Houston TX The Summit
14 Jan 1985 Houston TX The Summit
16 Jan 1985 Houston TX Texas Southern University
16 Jan 1985 Houston TX The Summit
17 Jan 1985 Houston TX The Summit
19 Jan 1985 Birmingham AL Jefferson Civic Center Coliseum
21 Jan 1985 Cincinnati OH Riverfront Coliseum
22 Jan 1985 Cincinnati OH Riverfront Coliseum
23 Jan 1985 Cincinnati OH Riverfront Coliseum
25 Jan 1985 Memphis TN Mid-South Coliseum
26 Jan 1985 Memphis TN Mid-South Coliseum
29 Jan 1985 Austin TX Frank Erwin Center
30 Jan 1985 Austin TX Frank Erwin Center
1 Feb 1985 New Orleans LA Louisiana Superdome
3 Feb 1985 Birmingham AL Jefferson Civic Center Coliseum
4 Feb 1985 Memphis TN Mid-South Coliseum
14 Feb 1985 Tacoma WA Dome
15 Feb 1985 Tacoma WA Dome
18 Feb 1985 Los Angeles CA Inglewood Forum
19 Feb 1985 Los Angeles CA Inglewood Forum
20 Feb 1985 Los Angeles CA Inglewood Forum
22 Feb 1985 Los Angeles CA Inglewood Forum
23 Feb 1985 Los Angeles CA Inglewood Forum
24 Feb 1985 Los Angeles CA Inglewood Forum
25 Feb 1985 Santa Monica CA Civic Auditorium
27 Feb 1985 Daly City CA Cow Palace
28 Feb 1985 Daly City CA Cow Palace
1 Mar 1985 Daly City CA Cow Palace
3 Mar 1985 Daly City CA Cow Palace
4 Mar 1985 Daly City CA Cow Palace
5 Mar 1985 Daly City CA Cow Palace
7 Mar 1985 Las Cruces NM Pan Am Center
8 Mar 1985 Las Cruces NM Pan Am Center
10 Mar 1985 Long Beach CA Arena
11 Mar 1985 Long Beach CA Arena
12 Mar 1985 Long Beach CA Arena
17 Mar 1985 Uniondale NY Nassau Coliseum
18 Mar 1985 New York NY Lehman College Center for the Performing Arts
20 Mar 1985 New York NY Lehman College Center for the Performing Arts
20 Mar 1985 Uniondale NY Nassau Coliseum
22 Mar 1985 Uniondale NY Nassau Coliseum
23 Mar 1985 Uniondale NY Nassau Coliseum
24 Mar 1985 Uniondale NY Nassau Coliseum
26 Mar 1985 Hartford CT Civic Center
27 Mar 1985 Worcester MA Centrum
28 Mar 1985 Worcester MA Marriott Inn
28 Mar 1985 Worcester MA Centrum
30 Mar 1985 Syracuse NY Carrier Dome
1 Apr 1985 Indianapolis IN Market Square Arena
3 Apr 1985 Tallahassee FL Leon County Civic Center
4 Apr 1985 Lakeland FL Civic Center
5 Apr 1985 Lakeland FL Civic Center
7 Apr 1985 Miami FL Orange Bowl

I went to the show in Indianapolis. I posted a list earlier of songs that were not on the regular set list, I guess I just assumed the televised Syracuse show was the normal show. I knew that he previewed some of the ATWIAD songs, but I didn't realize there were so many other songs that were performed on the tour as well. I have the Atlanta and Miami boots, but they were pretty much the same as the Syracuse show. It's too bad there aren't more soundboard quality boots with some of those one off songs being performed. I just can't tolerate audience recordings, it drives me nuts wishing it was more clear!
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Reply #41 posted 02/15/10 7:51pm

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^ some a great and some are shit , with many varieties inbetween

(also regarding audience noise level)

i personally want everything that's available 'out there' (in lossless audio quality) smile
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Reply #42 posted 02/16/10 2:33am

vivid

Dewrede said:

vivid said:

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and an instrumental at Indigo2 '07 (after playing ATWIAD)


i was at that show on 2007 - 09 - 13 excited woot! biggrin

(btw i can hear myself shouting along to Party Up on the bootleg ; off key and off beat lol redface )
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Me too smile I'll have to listen out for you on the boot biggrin
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Reply #43 posted 02/16/10 8:04am

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fever said:

Listening to the Syracuse show from 1985 and I noticed the absence of songs from ATIWAD. Did Prince not play a lot of these songs live very often? I know people tend to be a bit negative about the album but I'm a big fan. Admittedly that's because some of it's just hilariously bad.




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Le Théâtre de Verdure, France 10.27.1985
October 27 , 1985

Rehearsal
1.Pop Life
2.Temptation
3.Paisley Park
4.Love Or Money
5.Go
6.Interlude(Dream Factory guitar interlude?)
7.An Honest Man
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Reply #44 posted 02/16/10 8:10am

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motherfunka said:


28 Mar 1985 Worcester MA Marriott Inn


I'm just totally curious--what was this show?
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Reply #45 posted 02/16/10 8:24am

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Efan said:

motherfunka said:


28 Mar 1985 Worcester MA Marriott Inn


I'm just totally curious--what was this show?


Seems to have been an aftershow. And this may be a pic from it.

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Reply #46 posted 02/16/10 8:29am

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Efan said:

motherfunka said:


28 Mar 1985 Worcester MA Marriott Inn


I'm just totally curious--what was this show?

Didn't he do a couple of charity type shows near the end of the tour? I know (think?) one was in Long Beach.
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Reply #47 posted 02/16/10 8:42am

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squirrelgrease said:

Efan said:



I'm just totally curious--what was this show?


Seems to have been an aftershow. And this may be a pic from it.



Ah, cool. It looks like aftershows are listed first on that tour lineup then, before the main stadium show?
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Reply #48 posted 02/16/10 8:42am

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OldFriends4Sale said:

fever said:

Listening to the Syracuse show from 1985 and I noticed the absence of songs from ATIWAD. Did Prince not play a lot of these songs live very often? I know people tend to be a bit negative about the album but I'm a big fan. Admittedly that's because some of it's just hilariously bad.


Around the World in a Day, Condition of the Heart, Raspberry Beret, Pop Life, America, the Ladder
were performed on the Parade tour

the Syracuse 1985 show was a Purple Rain tour, America was the only one featured on the PR tour near the end of the tour
there was a mini concert in Paris during the shoot of Under the Cherry Moon where the video 4 America was shot, Paisley Park was a part of the concert.


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We got "Raspberry Beret" in March of 1985 during the Purple Rain tour in SF.
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Reply #49 posted 02/16/10 8:51am

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Efan said:

squirrelgrease said:



Seems to have been an aftershow. And this may be a pic from it.



Ah, cool. It looks like aftershows are listed first on that tour lineup then, before the main stadium show?


Maybe listed that way because it was actually an AM performance (though, the next morning)? I dunno.
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Reply #50 posted 02/16/10 9:20am

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squirrelgrease said:

ATWIAD B-Sides:

She's Always in My Hair - Prince seemed to have rediscovered this track around 1999, when it was played live a few times. Was it performed prior to this period?

4 The Tears In Your Eyes - Mentioned above. But has it been played since the We Are The World era?

Hello - Has P ever performed this live?

Girl - Has P ever performed this live?

Yeah, he "rediscovered" it because D'Angelo remade it around that time, and he wanted everyone to know it wasn't his but Prince's. He did the same damn thing when Alicia Keys remade How Come U Don't Call Me Anymore! It's like he's saying, "No, look, look at me! I'm the one who wrote that. Not them. Love me again...please?!"

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Reply #51 posted 02/16/10 9:40am

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squirrelgrease said:

ATWIAD B-Sides:

She's Always in My Hair - Prince seemed to have rediscovered this track around 1999, when it was played live a few times. Was it performed prior to this period?

4 The Tears In Your Eyes - Mentioned above. But has it been played since the We Are The World era?

Hello - Has P ever performed this live?

Girl - Has P ever performed this live?

Yeah, he "rediscovered" it because D'Angelo remade it around that time, and he wanted everyone to know it wasn't his but Prince's. He did the same damn thing when Alicia Keys remade How Come U Don't Call Me Anymore! It's like he's saying, "No, look, look at me! I'm the one who wrote that. Not them. Love me again...please?!"

lol


I think that's true. And the same can be said for Nothing Compares 2 U.
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Reply #52 posted 02/16/10 10:03am

ernestsewell

squirrelgrease said:

alexnvrmnd777 said:


Yeah, he "rediscovered" it because D'Angelo remade it around that time, and he wanted everyone to know it wasn't his but Prince's. He did the same damn thing when Alicia Keys remade How Come U Don't Call Me Anymore! It's like he's saying, "No, look, look at me! I'm the one who wrote that. Not them. Love me again...please?!"

lol


I think that's true. And the same can be said for Nothing Compares 2 U.

First, I think Prince feels he deserves credit and, rightly, he does. Sinead would have been a b-list underground angry bald chick had it not been for NC2U being a ginormous hit. Prince isn't responsible for Sinead's burst of success, but he is responsible for that song originally, and no matter who covers it, the fingers do need to point back to him as a great songwriter.

The same goes for Boring Keys when she covered "HCUDCMA". It came out in the summer of 2001. It didn't even crack the top 20, despite a video being all over BET and MTV at at the time. Her version seemed a bit more of an attempt to gain street cred by joining up with Prince. She tried to use her talent as her bling, and flashed it to everyone. No one was that impressed.

A cover song should always point back to the original artist/writer. It's simple in that the new artist wouldn't have a song to work with but for the fact that the original song existed. Yes, they'll have other songs, but when you choose to dip into the song cauldron of someone else, respect has to be paid. In 1998, Prince said, "Some do it for the right reasons, and some do it because they want a piece of the purple pie". Keys wanted the pie. Sinead probably felt it was a great song lyrically, and musically.

Why would we expect Prince to just sit on one of his songs when someone covers it and has a huge hit with it? We can't fault him for pulling it out of the closet and playing it in concert. Alan Leeds was right when, in the liner notes of The Hits/The B-sides, that by the time The Family and Sinead recorded the song, "Prince was damn near obligated to record it himself". He was right. It's not like Prince had his own version for people to judge. It was The Family who had the definitive version to that point (yes we know it's Prince's instrumentation, etc). But by 1991 when everyone had had their fill of it with Sinead, there's no way he could have ignored that momentum and not recorded it himself, or released some version that he'd performed. He didn't need that with HCUDCMA, because he already had his version out as the standard to judge by. He HAD to do NC2U. That's not a plea for attention, it was credit where credit was due.

I wonder how much we'd mind if all the REAL songwriters of Beyonce songs came out from under the paychecks, and hush orders, and said, "That shit is MINE, here's the proof. Give me credit."
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^ My only beef with Prince "taking his songs back" is that the Prince/Rosie Hits version of Nothing Compares 2 U sucks the coagulated tampon out of a yeasty crack whore. It was too little, too late.

The Family version is divine.
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Reply #54 posted 02/16/10 1:18pm

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^ My only beef with Prince "taking his songs back" is that the Prince/Rosie Hits version of Nothing Compares 2 U sucks the coagulated tampon out of a yeasty crack whore. It was too little, too late.

The Family version is divine.

Agreed, but the point of being obliged to do his own version sticks though.
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vivid said:

Dewrede said:



i was at that show on 2007 - 09 - 13 excited woot! biggrin

(btw i can hear myself shouting along to Party Up on the bootleg ; off key and off beat lol redface )
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Me too smile I'll have to listen out for you on the boot biggrin


that's cool highfive

i wouldn't recommend it but if you must i'm at 1.39 till 1.42 redface disbelief lol


oh well at least i'm immortalized dancing jig lol
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