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Thread started 01/15/03 12:19am

CeeJay

Best Version 2 Nigs 4 West Compton Black Album or ONA Live?

Just wondered what the general opinion on which is the best version of this track. Personally I prefer the ONA version as it doesn't have the annoying eighties style electronic beat which always sounds like someone hitting two planks of wood together in a tunnel. Having said that the Black Album bass solo kicks butt. Like to know what ya think.
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Reply #1 posted 01/15/03 12:21am

Fhunkin

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It's hard to compare the two, but I would go for the ONA..L version.
Futuristic Fantasy
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Reply #2 posted 01/15/03 12:28am

FlyingCloudPas
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CeeJay said:

Just wondered what the general opinion on which is the best version of this track. Personally I prefer the ONA version as it doesn't have the annoying eighties style electronic beat which always sounds like someone hitting two planks of wood together in a tunnel. Having said that the Black Album bass solo kicks butt. Like to know what ya think.


I must respond becuase this is one of my favorite Prince songs. The Black Album version is PURE FUNK. Period.

What's so wrong with the eighties style electronic beat?

To creative for ya?

Does everything now have to sound oh so effing bland?

Hhhmmm?

I don't know what you mean by "sounds like someone hitting two planks of wood together in a tunnel". What are you referring to?

Go listen to Coldplay.
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Reply #3 posted 01/15/03 12:38am

Nightcrawler

What a question. Black Album, of course!
See the man with the blue guitar, maybe one day he`ll be a star...
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Reply #4 posted 01/15/03 12:52am

sabaisabai

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They're both great smile
Life it ain't real funky unless you got that orgPop.
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Reply #5 posted 01/15/03 1:11am

funkyfish

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THE BLACK ALBUM...
The new version (to me) IS a great jam,

But the FUNK (at THAT time & NOW) of the 1st version...

As ALFRED says.."I can smell it now, that's nasty!"

FISH headbang
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Reply #6 posted 01/15/03 2:05am

ian

CeeJay said:

Just wondered what the general opinion on which is the best version of this track. Personally I prefer the ONA version as it doesn't have the annoying eighties style electronic beat which always sounds like someone hitting two planks of wood together in a tunnel. Having said that the Black Album bass solo kicks butt. Like to know what ya think.


Good GOD of course it is the Black Album version. I can't do without that Levi Seacer Jr (I think?) bass solo.
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Reply #7 posted 01/15/03 2:15am

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Yup - Black album wins, but I do love the ONA version, though its an entirely different groove.

Uhm, Ian, I think it is Prince playing that original bass solo, sounds very much like his style of playing. Levi was godd and could have done it, but his style was much less agressive than Prince can play - just listen to the attack on those strings and also the chords that are played near the end of the solo are just classic Prince.
...we have only scratched the surface of what the mind can do...

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Reply #8 posted 01/15/03 2:18am

sabaisabai

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ian said:[quote]

CeeJay said:

I can't do without that Levi Seacer Jr (I think?) bass solo.


I had always thought that was Prince on bass? Just a guess though.
Life it ain't real funky unless you got that orgPop.
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Reply #9 posted 01/15/03 3:37am

lovesexy4u

i do love that one on the black album but the ona version kicks ass .and i love it a little bit more.just a little
woekie woekie!!!
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Reply #10 posted 01/15/03 4:01am

ian

Mindflux said:

Yup - Black album wins, but I do love the ONA version, though its an entirely different groove.

Uhm, Ian, I think it is Prince playing that original bass solo, sounds very much like his style of playing. Levi was godd and could have done it, but his style was much less agressive than Prince can play - just listen to the attack on those strings and also the chords that are played near the end of the solo are just classic Prince.


I used to think that too but I think it's just wishful thinking... it's naturally for Prince fans to assume the little man does everything smile

However if you back and watch some of the concert footage from around that time (maybe the Sign o the Times video too) it's VERY much Levi's style, and very not Prince's style. Prince can slap and pop a bit, but I don't think (at this time in his career at least) Prince was up to this standard on bass.

I could be wrong but my vote goes to Levi smile Does anyone know Levi, does he have an email address? We have to ask him and clear this matter up.
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Reply #11 posted 01/15/03 6:06am

Savannah

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Its by far the best track of all on the Live set..

"I wanna sing but its too funky!"
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Reply #12 posted 01/15/03 6:08am

Savannah

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ian said:

Mindflux said:

Yup - Black album wins, but I do love the ONA version, though its an entirely different groove.

Uhm, Ian, I think it is Prince playing that original bass solo, sounds very much like his style of playing. Levi was godd and could have done it, but his style was much less agressive than Prince can play - just listen to the attack on those strings and also the chords that are played near the end of the solo are just classic Prince.


I used to think that too but I think it's just wishful thinking... it's naturally for Prince fans to assume the little man does everything smile

However if you back and watch some of the concert footage from around that time (maybe the Sign o the Times video too) it's VERY much Levi's style, and very not Prince's style. Prince can slap and pop a bit, but I don't think (at this time in his career at least) Prince was up to this standard on bass.

I could be wrong but my vote goes to Levi smile Does anyone know Levi, does he have an email address? We have to ask him and clear this matter up.


btw/ i've asked this a dozen times in a dozen forums..

Levi is the biggest MIA case in NPG history... he seems to have vanished into thin air
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Reply #13 posted 01/15/03 6:09am

ian

Savannah said:

ian said:

Mindflux said:

Yup - Black album wins, but I do love the ONA version, though its an entirely different groove.

Uhm, Ian, I think it is Prince playing that original bass solo, sounds very much like his style of playing. Levi was godd and could have done it, but his style was much less agressive than Prince can play - just listen to the attack on those strings and also the chords that are played near the end of the solo are just classic Prince.


I used to think that too but I think it's just wishful thinking... it's naturally for Prince fans to assume the little man does everything smile

However if you back and watch some of the concert footage from around that time (maybe the Sign o the Times video too) it's VERY much Levi's style, and very not Prince's style. Prince can slap and pop a bit, but I don't think (at this time in his career at least) Prince was up to this standard on bass.

I could be wrong but my vote goes to Levi smile Does anyone know Levi, does he have an email address? We have to ask him and clear this matter up.


btw/ i've asked this a dozen times in a dozen forums..

Levi is the biggest MIA case in NPG history... he seems to have vanished into thin air


Mysterious! Maybe music wasn't paying the bills anymore and he got a real job...
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Reply #14 posted 01/15/03 6:10am

Mindflux

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Yup - it would be good to know who was responsible. I've got a good ear, but I could be wrong. Still, (friendly) bet says it's Prince!
...we have only scratched the surface of what the mind can do...

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Reply #15 posted 01/15/03 6:59am

Nikkie

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The Black Album version is the WILDEST!
The ONA version is cool too!
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Reply #16 posted 01/15/03 8:06am

rdhull

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FlyingCloudPassenger said:

I must respond becuase this is one of my favorite Prince songs. The Black Album version is PURE FUNK. Period..


nod this song is intense on the black album especially with headphones. You can hear all the nuances. Wish that organ was up a bit more though.
"Climb in my fur."
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Reply #17 posted 01/15/03 8:07am

rdhull

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Savannah said:

Its by far the best track of all on the Live set..

"I wanna sing but its too funky!"


I love that part on ONAL lol also when he says the title matter of factly
"Climb in my fur."
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Reply #18 posted 01/15/03 8:13am

Shorty

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love em both! but right now the ONA Live version is kickin' my ass!
"not a fan" falloff yeah...ok
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Reply #19 posted 01/15/03 9:03am

IstenSzek

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"The Black Album" version. The song is not the same without
feeling the presence of Maurice running around the dark lid
party with a bucket o squirell meat.

Yummie. Serve it up Franky!
and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
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Reply #20 posted 01/15/03 9:41am

ian

Someone explain the squirrel meat thing... I never knew what the f*** Prince was talking about. Leave the squirrels alone dammit, their life is hard enough digging around for nuts they buried and stuff.
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Reply #21 posted 01/15/03 10:10am

Shorty

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ian said:

Someone explain the squirrel meat thing... I never knew what the f*** Prince was talking about. Leave the squirrels alone dammit, their life is hard enough digging around for nuts they buried and stuff.



I would if I could...
there was a thread about the squirrel meat thing a while back...someone said it was swirl meat not squirrel...but I don't know...
smile
"not a fan" falloff yeah...ok
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Reply #22 posted 01/15/03 11:13am

lovemachine

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Savannah said:

ian said:

Mindflux said:

Yup - Black album wins, but I do love the ONA version, though its an entirely different groove.

Uhm, Ian, I think it is Prince playing that original bass solo, sounds very much like his style of playing. Levi was godd and could have done it, but his style was much less agressive than Prince can play - just listen to the attack on those strings and also the chords that are played near the end of the solo are just classic Prince.


I used to think that too but I think it's just wishful thinking... it's naturally for Prince fans to assume the little man does everything smile

However if you back and watch some of the concert footage from around that time (maybe the Sign o the Times video too) it's VERY much Levi's style, and very not Prince's style. Prince can slap and pop a bit, but I don't think (at this time in his career at least) Prince was up to this standard on bass.

I could be wrong but my vote goes to Levi smile Does anyone know Levi, does he have an email address? We have to ask him and clear this matter up.


btw/ i've asked this a dozen times in a dozen forums..

Levi is the biggest MIA case in NPG history... he seems to have vanished into thin air


He showed up at a party during the first Celebration, is all over the new Sounds of Blackness Album, and apparantly has also started a Christian Music label:

For info on the Sounds of Blackness Album:
http://www.artistdirect.c...,00.html


Here is the homepage of the record company he started:

http://www.christiangospelnetwork.org/

It has a contact page so maybe you can get in touch with him through the site. Here is the info on the orgins of the label as provided on the site:


The Christian Gospel Network is an new music label started
by Levi Seacer and Dick McCalley based in Minneapolis, MN. Both men have felt a
call on their lives, from God, to create a new music network of "world class"
musicians, writers, producers and performing artists.

You may recognize Levi Seacer from his work with many gold and
platinum recording artists such as: The Sounds of Blackness, Sheila E, Prince,
The Pointer Sisters, to name a few...

As owner of American Pro Audio, Dick McCalley has sold studio gear
and concert touring packages to hundreds of top recording artists, producers, radio
stations and music publishers across America.

Together, Levi Seacer and Dick McCalley are believing God to start a
new, fresh Gospel record label that will "shake things up" in the music industry.
Starting a new record label also gives us an opportunity to recruit new talent.
If you are aware of any exceptionally gifted singers, musicians, or songwriters,
give us an email.

We will be also trying to help new ministries get started in the
internet world. This new tool has been very instrumental in the successes of Dr.Creflo
Dollar, Bishop TD. Jakes and Joyce Meyers, to name a few. We are launching a new
website in the next two weeks, and maybe we can be of some help to you, in your
ministry. Email us today. If you do not have access to the internet, there is
probably someone you know who does. Have them send an email on your behalf.
We cannot promise, but we will make every effort to follow up as time permits.


The Christian Gospel Network will have several new releases coming out in
the spring of 2001. Listen to these sound clips...we hope you will be
excited as we are.

Once again, may God Bless you and your family this Holiday Season
look for The Christian Gospel Network coming to you in the New Year.



The web page isn't the most updated page in the world, but you might be able to get in touch with him.


Here is a list of projects he has appeared on:


http://www.artistdirect.c...09,00.html
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Reply #23 posted 01/15/03 11:32am

rdhull

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ian said:

Someone explain the squirrel meat thing... I never knew what the f*** Prince was talking about. Leave the squirrels alone dammit, their life is hard enough digging around for nuts they buried and stuff.


Its a "funky thing" type of term. Chicken grease is funky and so is squirrel meat. They will be around to serve you up some squirrel meat i.e. serve you up some funk.
"Climb in my fur."
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Reply #24 posted 01/15/03 11:39am

PurpleLove7

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Black Album is better... it's the Original...
Peace ... & Stay Funky ...

~* The only love there is, is the love "we" make *~

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Reply #25 posted 01/15/03 12:33pm

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Black Album hands down!!! The ferociousness of the original track is astounding. I think it's Prince on the Bass, listen to the original version of Crystal Ball. I know that the CB bass solo isn't as fierce but I would bet Ps on the Bass on 2Nigs.
[This message was edited Wed Jan 15 12:40:44 PST 2003 by SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy]
2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740
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Reply #26 posted 01/15/03 2:47pm

ian

rdhull said:

ian said:

Someone explain the squirrel meat thing... I never knew what the f*** Prince was talking about. Leave the squirrels alone dammit, their life is hard enough digging around for nuts they buried and stuff.


Its a "funky thing" type of term. Chicken grease is funky and so is squirrel meat. They will be around to serve you up some squirrel meat i.e. serve you up some funk.


Cheers RD... you'd think by now Prince would have come up with some vegetarian funk metaphors biggrin

I'm gonna serve you up some tofu... mmm tofu.
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Reply #27 posted 01/15/03 2:56pm

rdhull

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ian said:

rdhull said:

ian said:

Someone explain the squirrel meat thing... I never knew what the f*** Prince was talking about. Leave the squirrels alone dammit, their life is hard enough digging around for nuts they buried and stuff.


Its a "funky thing" type of term. Chicken grease is funky and so is squirrel meat. They will be around to serve you up some squirrel meat i.e. serve you up some funk.


Cheers RD... you'd think by now Prince would have come up with some vegetarian funk metaphors biggrin

I'm gonna serve you up some tofu... mmm tofu.


"Sir Renato is gonna serve up some curry beans!"
"Climb in my fur."
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Reply #28 posted 01/15/03 6:31pm

thebumpsquad

2 Nigs from Black-DEF!!!
Especially with the 'Fuck Me Pumps' intro-THE BEST!!!

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Reply #29 posted 01/15/03 8:18pm

SWANG

The Black Album version is great and gets my vote.

I also believe that Prince plays every instrument on it (including the bass solo), except the synth solo at the end which sounds like Fink.

The ONAL version is actually "Talkin' Loud and Sayin' Nothin'". When you hear the band stop at one point, you can hear the audience singing it as though they were prompted earlier in the song. The prompt may have been edited out. Don't know...wasn't there.


-2SWANGsunitedforwestjersey
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