toejam said:

LOL..... No, seriously I really just LOL'd

I love that line

JesusFreak said:

here here!!
I'll say it right out right here:
Let Prince never be produced by any other than
Prince !
hell MF yeah! Always was, always will be.

JesusFreak said:

man, can't emphasize that enough.
Prince producing Prince trying to "fit in" a little
but Prince produced by some Timbershit, Will.I.Whatever etc etc, trying to fit in
Fuck
That.



JesusFreak said it best!



quotethatshittwice edit!
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Bono knows whats up with Prince. Even Prince would admit that an editor or more savvy friends in the studio would help him put out the best stuff in one compliation. But Prince still is able to keep it going and do most things on his terms. Can't argue with that. And song for song, Prince has the best most varied number if tunes than anyone I can think of anymore.

I do think a lot of people glorify 80's prince compositions because of cultural and personal context of where they were in their own lives. I think SOTT only had three or four strong songs back in 1987 when I first listened to it a lot. I think the same of almost every album he has ever put out.

ufoclub said:

I didn't 'discover' Prince until 1991 and I think the 80's material kicks the later years of material's ass with a few exceptions so that doesn't apply to me.

Prince was not on my radar at all pre-1991.

Everything until 1992 I listened to was retrospective.

BlackandRising said:

Two excellent points!

FunkyStrange said:

I'd love to erase all my memory just to hear my reaction to Prince songs all out of order. But I remember my initial reactions quite well for every album.

I just know that back in 1986-87, songs like (b-side) Girl, or It, or U Got the Look, Slow Love, Do U Lie, Christopher Tracy's Parade, Play in the Sunshine sounded a bit half baked and simple in a bad way, yet a song like "Future Baby Momma" which I think is light years more interesting and fun to listen to on a first listen than "Girl" is much hated.

The entire album of Lovesexy sounded half-baked to me when I first heard it (with highlights that still had retarded mix choices being I Know, Alphabet St, Anna Stesia, Dance On) Seemingly wrong in such a crazy way, that I kept listening to it to try to figure out why what his intention was in making such uncool retro looney tune arrangements and lame melodies.

In hindsight these have aged into a fine wine (or is that cheese?) from so many listens to figure them out... but back then... not that much fun the first time.

I just popped in New Power Soul and was surprised at how cunning the title track is in it's ape-ing of P-Funk. So much hate for an album that has Come On, The One, Mad Sex, Wasted Kisses, and New Power Soul on it. Shit, if I could edit out Doug E Fresh rap out of I Like Funky Music, and forget all context of Graham's voice, I think it's a great in-yo-face coke'd up P-Funk attitude jam.

I think Bono is right, but that's not to say that Prince has done it wrong. If Prince wasn't so independant, we wouldn't have had some of the best moments in popular music in the last 30 years.

If Prince had an 'editor' he would be a different kind of artist. I feel with Prince that although a lot of the criticism is often on point, I wouldn't have him any other way - it's a bit 'love me, love my dog' and I'm a cat man.

That's an old book.
Saw it in a Singapore bookshop in 2006 (I live in India)

Haha what a creative way to give him praise!
I like that.

As for Prince needing some editors, well, it's not like he absolutely get zero feedback from others, just not the point where he would get if he was surrounded by group members. So...I guess Bono is a bit jealous of Prince being a solo artist?!

inia said:

Definitely

bono is completely right.


prince needs an editor, or at least someone to challenge him. he is surrounded by yes men, and has been for years. and the quality of the albums reflects it. if he had someone to say "that's really not your best work" once in a while, we might actually get another PR or SOTT out of him.

every artist needs a seocnd or outside opinion. when we don't have one, we tend to get se;f-indulgent and think everything is genius.

BlackAdder7 said:

- But why should Prince want a commercial success? For me, that´s not the point.

GustavoRibas said:

needing an editor or management won't affect the quantity, it will affect the quality.

GustavoRibas said:

Because he's talking about making money ALL THE TIME!

Imho money is the only thing that he's interested in nowadays...

Having an editor will not necessary make Prince's music better. Lots of artists have editors and people who chanllenge them and their music is not good.

I am not sure why it bothers people that Prince likes to work alone sometimes. He has been doing it for years. This is what he does.

I can bet if Prince got an editor and people who "chanllege" him people will find something to complain about.

Am I the only one who happens to think that Bono is...utterly OVERRATED?

MOL said:

You're not the only one.

I dont think Prince feels challenged, specially because mainstream music is so poor lately (of course, there are exceptions). So, he knows that anything he will do will sound better than Britney or Lady Gaga. Although Lotus Flow3r had some brilliant moments. It sounds like he did it with love and care.

Maybe he is only having fun now, doing his ´tribute´ songs (to his past and to other artists) most of the times.

i totally agree with everything bono said including the last one. It seems now like he doesnt have people around him who are able to add creative input. Unlike when he was with the revolution etc. In no way was he disrespectful to prince but rather complimentary

Erika2k8 said:

Bono is talking bull, he's only on Prince back, because his band U2 stole a few grammys from Prince in the 80's ....when prince was doing it all by himself in the studio...

Bono knows Prince should have won and he still feels bad about it today ...bono knows he will never come close to being anywhere near Prince as a musician or a rock star or band leader or writer ...etc..etc...

He should just post back the grammy and say sorry....

Sign of the Time vs The Joshua Tree .....we all know who should have one that award and so does Bono.... hence his comments

"These white rock stars, they think they're authentic, and that Prince is just some sort of showbiz Christmas tree. But he has more soul in his little finger than a whole harbor full of these rock bands."

Nuff Said...

Oh Prince latest CD is far better than U2's but they still got better Press Reviews....."White Rock Stars" more like "White Music Media"

Bono is right about the editing.

MOL said:

not only that

boner is a pompous twat who thinks he's gods gift to mankind

eireboy34 said:

No he's not Bono is just trying to justifiy the reason U2 won the grammys in 1988 and Prince didn't .....it still get's on his tits...that U2 only got the award because they are Irish White Rockers.....

And That's the truth Ruth...

One day ....very soon Bono will come out and tell the truth...I hope it's not when Prince has past...

Dewrede said:

Bono's a nice guy but he is VERY OVERRATED and his band is TOO!

LondonStyle said:

LOL, have you seen many Irish Black Rockers?

Isabell said:

Yep

Thin Lizzy are an Irish hard rock band who formed in Dublin, Ireland in 1969. The band were led throughout their recording career by bassist, songwriter and singer Phil Lynott, and are best known for their songs "Whiskey in the Jar", "Jailbreak" and "The Boys Are Back in Town", all major international hits still played regularly on hard rock and classic rock radio stations. After Lynott died, various incarnations of the band have emerged over the years culminating in a more stable line-up based around guitarists Scott Gorham and John Sykes. Sykes left the band in June 2009.

And they where better than U2 and Phill was way better than Bono....

Check it out

http://www.youtube.com/wa...ehFZ38kt6o


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Thin Lizzy rules. And it´s a very underrated band.

Bono has put the work into the biz to give effective criticism of Prince's work however I will disagree because Prince hit more than he missed with his music.

Whenever this topic come up people will always pull Wendy and Lisa out and say that they need to do this and that.

If Prince did pull the Girl Brothers out as editors/producers people would still bitch and moan.

It's not going to put him back on the charts because he is 52 and past his prime .The music biz is about youth. Prince will always sell 500,000 albums here or there but he will never be a 1,000,000 seller again unless he dies like MJ.(God forbid)

muleFunk said:

Breaking News .....500,000 is the new 1,000,000 no ones selling CD's only MJ is selling don't buy the SuBo Crap ...she is not selling that well and it's a fad.....watch how the record company drops her in buy the end of the year ....

Marketing that rubbish cost alot of Simons money and he wants it back....