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PrintableGraycap23 said: krayzie said: The question is not the range of talent but what you create with your talent and the impact/influence you left behind you... There are many black artists who can do many things JB can't do, but how many of them shaped, transformed and redefined Black music the way JB did ??? I can name one.....PRINCE. LOL Prince didn't redefine Black Music. What Prince did has already been done before. And putting Prince on the same level as JB is just straight ignorance... Hard to imagine where Black music would have been without JB, I don't think the same can be said for Prince. Sorry | |
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Graycap23 said: Soulstar77A said: Nah that's ridiculous! 
Prince might have ruled and defined the sound of the 80's. But JB really changed black music for all times! [Edited 1/9/10 21:49pm] Prince has impacted more than Black music. Love James.....but Prince rules them all including James. The reality on Prince s this. They will be studying this man and his true impact on music for the next 40 to 50 years. Most people have a very small view of Prince based a certain times during his career. The general public has no idea of the contributions Prince has made in a material sense. He will get his due, but it will be way after he leaves this Earth. [Edited 1/9/10 21:59pm] Now you know you my bro, but you done bumped yo head again,
Prince has undoubtedly had a significant influence, but all things considered, I think even Prince himself would disagree that his impact would eclipse that of JB. Prince, in you I found a kindred spirit...Rest In Paradise. | |
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Graycap23 said: Soulstar77A said: Nah that's ridiculous!
Prince might have ruled and defined the sound of the 80's. But JB really changed black music for all times! [Edited 1/9/10 21:49pm] Prince has impacted more than Black music. Love James.....but Prince rules them all including James. The reality on Prince s this. They will be studying this man and his true impact on music for the next 40 to 50 years. Most people have a very small view of Prince based a certain times during his career. The general public has no idea of the contributions Prince has made in a material sense. He will get his due, but it will be way after he leaves this Earth. [Edited 1/9/10 21:59pm] 
Come on, that discussion is getting ridiculous. Prince is no where, I repeat, no where in terms of impact near JB, and I don't even compare Prince to Sevie Wonder who in my opinion is the most talented black artist of the past 60 years. Prince even in his prime wasn't considered as a groundbreaking artist or revolutionary. He never had the consensus. Black people don't love his music the way they love JB music. Everybody recognizes and respects his genius and abilities. But he'll never get the same kind of recognition as Stevie has by example. I just don't see how or where Prince is supposed to rule them all ??? I mean to rule them all ??? To me, Prince is no way near Stevie Wonder. I know a lot of black people who don't like Prince, but it's very hard to find black people who don't like Stevie Wonder. To me Prince is at best close to what Sly was. He was a big artist of an era. Made great albums. But he's not James Brown. Please Prince fans, stop the madness... [Edited 1/10/10 5:58am] | |
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krayzie said:[quote] Graycap23 said: Prince has impacted more than Black music. Love James.....but Prince rules them all including James. The reality on Prince s this. They will be studying this man and his true impact on music for the next 40 to 50 years. Most people have a very small view of Prince based a certain times during his career. The general public has no idea of the contributions Prince has made in a material sense. He will get his due, but it will be way after he leaves this Earth. [Edited 1/9/10 21:59pm]
Come on, that discussion is getting ridiculous. Prince is no where, I repeat, no where in terms of impact near JB, and I don't even compare Prince to Sevie Wonder who in my opinion is the most talented black artist of the past 60 years. Prince even in his prime wasn't considered as a groundbreaking artist or revolutionary. He never had the consensus. Black people don't love his music the way they love JB music. Everybody recognizes and respects his genius and abilities. But he'll never get the same kind of recognition as Stevie has by example. I just don't see how or where Prince is supposed to rule them all ??? I mean to rule them all ??? To me, Prince is no way near Stevie Wonder. I know a lot of black people who don't like Prince, but it's very hard to find black people who don't like Stevie Wonder. To me Prince is at best close to what Sly was. He was a big artist of an era. Made great albums. But he's not James Brown. Please Prince fans, stop the madness... [Edited 1/10/10 5:58am] [/quote Well then what r u doing on this site? Create ur own Stevie Wonder site and bow down to him and kiss his feet. Since Prince don't mean much 2 U.  will ALWAYS think of  like a "ACT OF GOD"! N another realm. mean of all people who might of been aliens or angels.if found out that wasn't of this earth, would not have been that surprised. R.I.P. | |
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NelsonR said: vivid said: [/b] Poom Poom  pum pum is the jamaican name for pu**y there was a reason why prince chose that name for that song. i remember some1 in the rave dvd holding up a sign saying 'poom poom.' i thought that was rather bold in a time of prince's 'the christ' What was the reason? Oh, do pray tell  
Does he specialize in pum pum too?  
I thought his specialty was papaya?  
Power to the Poom Poom 
For those whose arses are freezing right now which is virtually all of America from Minnesota to Florida this one is guaranteed to put the wiind in your groin  
Hit it! Poom poom, poom poom     
kin 2 your poom poom  
Now, tell me, other than Purple Badness, did JB, MJ or anyone else for that matter, make the poom poom vibrate and stand up and shake like a rattlesnake caught in an earthquake?    | |
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ElectricBlue said: Start Topic with a Link???
...and James Brown played what instrument? Don't you love all those amazing performances where James was rippin amazing guitar solos!  or man how can anyone forget when he played the piano and sang such beautiful ballads.
Oh yeah he kept repeating the same dance moves he did since the 1960's and just toured the same stage show for 50 years - the only difference was he was slowlying down with age and needed dancers around him. Outside of Rocky 4 and doing "living in america" did he even have a new song anyone heard of past 1970? JB played the keyboard. Listen to Shhh...Just Plain Funk for a groove. And it's JB playing that famous piano lick in Sex Machine - the one that basically became the first House Music groove. | |
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hollywooddove said: Graycap23 said: Prince has impacted more than Black music. Love James.....but Prince rules them all including James. The reality on Prince s this. They will be studying this man and his true impact on music for the next 40 to 50 years. Most people have a very small view of Prince based a certain times during his career. The general public has no idea of the contributions Prince has made in a material sense. He will get his due, but it will be way after he leaves this Earth. [Edited 1/9/10 21:59pm] i sort of have to agree with you. The average person may know about Prince through some behind the music special, or even cuz they remember Purple Stain, but when you tell someone he has released an album almost every year of his career... they get kind of boggled.... they don't know what that really means cause no one else... as far as I know, does that. I agree that he has a talent that goes unnoticed by a lot of the general public these days, but as far as him releasing an album every year, that's not unusual at all except for the last 20 years. Prince came out in the late 1970s and had his reign in the 1980s. Back in those days, almost every artist except for Michael Jackson was releasing a new album every year. It wasn't until the huge success of "Thriller" that a lot of artists started waiting two or three years to release a new album to milk the old album for every drop they could get out of it. Andy is a four letter word. | |
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krayzie said: Graycap23 said: I can name one.....PRINCE. LOL Prince didn't redefine Black Music. What Prince did has already been done before. And putting Prince on the same level as JB is just straight ignorance... Hard to imagine where Black music would have been without JB, I don't think the same can be said for Prince. Sorry Honestly.....u can stay stuck on black music if u wish. Prince impacted a music way beyond Black music. I'm not talking about "Black" music.....I'm talking about music in general. | |
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zaza said: 1013Nightlife said: My dear Zaza, Lady CaCa is from your generation! You should like her, only old bags like me are allowed to despise Lady Caca and her associates. I don't like current music, I'm more into music of 70's, 80's and early 90's. Those were the times when music was MUSIC.But can't you see that she's a total throwback to the 70's and 80's? Yes she's current, but she's finally someone who deserves to be current! Bad Romance features synths parallel to the majority of 80's songs for crying outloud! She plays piano like a virtuouso, reinvents her hits as well as herself, she produces and writes her own songs, she's a workaholic, she's has a distinct style, the list goes on... The true artists will rise to the top, I can tell she's going to be here for years and years and years to come. and Nightlife, you made one wrong "21st century generation" stereotypacle remark there "Not to sound cosmic, but I've made plans for the next 3,000 years," he says. "Before, it was only three days at a time." | |
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Thee foundation of Black music that I love:
James Brown Bootsy/George Clinton Prince | |
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krayzie said: Graycap23 said: 
Prince is/was a threat in any and every trail blazer is music. He took what came before and made it BETTER in everyway. Period. I agree without you that he took what came before. But I strongly disagree with you when you say that he made it better... Better than what ??? Of course you don't agree...You're not a Prince fan.....lol | |
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I love James but Prince trancended James and his music.
I said it before but Prince brought balence to the FUNK. Now go back to James.org. |
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KCOOLMUZIQ said: Well then what r u doing on this site? Create ur own Stevie Wonder site and bow down to him and kiss his feet. Since Prince don't mean much 2 U. Well to be honest with you I love to piss Prince fans off...
(We) Stevie fans are nothing like Prince fans. That's why It's so easy to piss you off... | |
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Graycap23 said: Thee foundation of Black music that I love:
James Brown Bootsy/George Clinton Prince Well, we mos def agree on that.
For real tho, I saw a clip where JB spoke about P and the other cats who copied him...he was a little tipsy at the time and it was a funny clip. But according to Rev. Sharpton, shortly before he passed he specifically named Prince and MJ as his successors...to me that says a lot more of what he thought about Prince than what he said twenty plus years ago. The late great Rick James dissed P several years ago, but he finally came around too. Prince, in you I found a kindred spirit...Rest In Paradise. | |
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Okay guys...Here's the deal....Krayzie has done it to y'all again.....lol
It's a set up.....His whole aim since coming to the Org has been overtly (and at times slyly) dismissing Prince's music and impact to the point of making some of the most laughable and ridiculous posts... But this time he took a rather brilliant TROLL's way out by simply posting to another link to once again shit on Prince, without getting his own hands dirty....He knew some of the Prince zealots would come out and make some uninformed statements in reaction to the link and make it a Prince vs. JB discussion... Now, as I've stated before, when it comes to the modern black music tradition there is no individual that is more important to the genres of R&B, soul and funk than James Brown....He is more important than Ray Charles, Motown, Stax, Sam Cooke, Aretha Franklin, Sly Stone, Stevie Wonder, P-Funk, Michael Jackson, Prince ( who would later cross over to other genres of music )and whoever else you want to bring up.....He is basically the template for all modern black music from funk to hip hop...His imprint was that huge... What is the point of saying all this?....Krayzie knew this and took pleasure over seeing a bunch of Prince fans argue over JB's and Prince's overall musical impact (an argument that is almost impossible for Prince and virtually any other act to win).... The truth is Krayzie knows nothing about nothing (as we say in the southside of the Chi).... He discounts that JB had known Michael Jackson since he was a kid and the fact that he looked at MJ as a son....He discounts that Prince was still a fairly new artist on the scene when JB was quoted from second-hand source that we don't even know whether or not was even said in the first place... Krayzie discounts that years later, JB forged a cordial relationship with Prince and was quoted as saying that he felt it took a while for Prince to catch his groove, but when he did he was thoroughly impressed by the man.... I think it all comes down to understanding that Krayzie is full of shit....He knew exactly what he was doing...When you know this, you are able to have some perspective of what drives his posts.... And on that note, I'll leave you with a quote (from this very post) from the Org's mascot Troll himself, Krayzie... "Well to be honest with you I love to piss Prince fans off... "
This^^^says it all.....The Mods gotta see through this..... [Edited 1/10/10 12:15pm] | |
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murph said: Okay guys...Here's the deal....Krayzie has done it to y'all again.....lol
If no one reports it, nothing will be done. On the flip side of that, the posters to this thread could totally hand him his ass on platter by knowing what they are talking about and not sinking down to his level.It's a set up.....His whole aim since coming to the Org has been overtly (and at times slyly) dismissing Prince's music and impact to the point of making some of the most laughable and ridiculous posts... But this time he took a rather brilliant TROLL's way out by simply posting to another link to once again shit on Prince, without getting his own hands dirty....He knew some of the Prince zealots would come out and make some uninformed statements in reaction to the link and make it a Prince vs. JB discussion... Now, as I've stated before, when it comes to the modern black music tradition there is no individual that is more important to the genres of R&B, soul and funk than James Brown....He is more important than Ray Charles, Motown, Stax, Sam Cooke, Aretha Franklin, Sly Stone, Stevie Wonder, P-Funk, Michael Jackson, Prince ( who would later cross over to other genres of music )and whoever else you want to bring up.....He is basically the template for all modern black music from funk to hip hop...His imprint was that huge... What is the point of saying all this?....Krayzie knew this and took pleasure over seeing a bunch of Prince fans argue over JB's and Prince's overall musical impact (an argument that is almost impossible for Prince and virtually any other act to win).... The truth is Krayzie knows nothing about nothing (as we say in the southside of the Chi).... He discounts that JB had known Michael Jackson since he was a kid and the fact that he looked at MJ as a son....He discounts that Prince was still a fairly new artist on the scene when JB was quoted from second-hand source that we don't even know whether or not was even said in the first place... Krayzie discounts that years later, JB forged a cordial relationship with Prince and was quoted as saying that he felt it took a while for Prince to catch his groove, but when he did he was thoroughly impressed by the man.... I think it all comes down to understanding that Krayzie is full of shit....He knew exactly what he was doing...When you know this, you are able to have some perspective of what drives his posts.... And on that note, I'll leave you with a quote (from this very post) from the Org's mascot Troll himself, Krayzie... "Well to be honest with you I love to piss Prince fans off... "
This^^^says it all.....The Mods gotta see through this..... [Edited 1/10/10 12:15pm] | |
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Vendetta1 said: murph said: Okay guys...Here's the deal....Krayzie has done it to y'all again.....lol
If no one reports it, nothing will be done. On the flip side of that, the posters to this thread could totally hand him his ass on platter by knowing what they are talking about and not sinking down to his level.It's a set up.....His whole aim since coming to the Org has been overtly (and at times slyly) dismissing Prince's music and impact to the point of making some of the most laughable and ridiculous posts... But this time he took a rather brilliant TROLL's way out by simply posting to another link to once again shit on Prince, without getting his own hands dirty....He knew some of the Prince zealots would come out and make some uninformed statements in reaction to the link and make it a Prince vs. JB discussion... Now, as I've stated before, when it comes to the modern black music tradition there is no individual that is more important to the genres of R&B, soul and funk than James Brown....He is more important than Ray Charles, Motown, Stax, Sam Cooke, Aretha Franklin, Sly Stone, Stevie Wonder, P-Funk, Michael Jackson, Prince ( who would later cross over to other genres of music )and whoever else you want to bring up.....He is basically the template for all modern black music from funk to hip hop...His imprint was that huge... What is the point of saying all this?....Krayzie knew this and took pleasure over seeing a bunch of Prince fans argue over JB's and Prince's overall musical impact (an argument that is almost impossible for Prince and virtually any other act to win).... The truth is Krayzie knows nothing about nothing (as we say in the southside of the Chi).... He discounts that JB had known Michael Jackson since he was a kid and the fact that he looked at MJ as a son....He discounts that Prince was still a fairly new artist on the scene when JB was quoted from second-hand source that we don't even know whether or not was even said in the first place... Krayzie discounts that years later, JB forged a cordial relationship with Prince and was quoted as saying that he felt it took a while for Prince to catch his groove, but when he did he was thoroughly impressed by the man.... I think it all comes down to understanding that Krayzie is full of shit....He knew exactly what he was doing...When you know this, you are able to have some perspective of what drives his posts.... And on that note, I'll leave you with a quote (from this very post) from the Org's mascot Troll himself, Krayzie... "Well to be honest with you I love to piss Prince fans off... "
This^^^says it all.....The Mods gotta see through this..... [Edited 1/10/10 12:15pm] This is true...I made the same statement in my post....Some Prince fans on this thread are not thinking rationally....But it's no excuse with the Mods for not seeing through Krayzie's constant Trolling.....He's putting it out there...He's letting everyone know he's just antagonizing Prince fans on a Prince fansite...He hides behind one of the true G.O.A.T.S. (Stevie Wonder) and now he's hiding behind another GOAT in James Brown to shit on Prince... But as I stated, Prince fans are not doing themselves any favors by making some pretty inaccurate and at times bias statements....They played into Krayzie's hands....I don't even want to see dude banned, because I don't get down like that...I would just like to see this dude get called out for all of his weak ass Trolling... I see through it all day....Krayzie is full of shit... [Edited 1/10/10 12:43pm] | |
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murph said: Vendetta1 said: If no one reports it, nothing will be done. On the flip side of that, the posters to this thread could totally hand him his ass on platter by knowing what they are talking about and not sinking down to his level.
This is true...I made the same statement in my post....Some Prince fans on this thread are not thinking rationally....But it's no excuse with the Mods for not seeing through Krayzie's constant Trolling.....He's putting it out there...He's letting everyone know he's just antagonizing Prince fans on a Prince fansite...He hides behind one of the true G.O.A.T.S. (Stevie Wonder) and now he's hiding behind another GOAT in James Brown to shit on Prince... But as I stated, Prince fans are not doing themselves any favors by making some pretty inaccurate and at times bias statements....They played into Krayzie's hands.... But I see through it all day....Krayzie is full of shit... [Edited 1/10/10 12:36pm] Lol....no weak minded fool, troll or not has any imapct on my KNOWLEDGE of music. Some of this stuff is pure comedy rather intended or not. | |
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Agreed, but I just checked up on this thread. Anyone could have used the report button, but chose not to.
Regardless, a troll has been clearly outed so something good came of the thread before the  Studies have shown the ass crack of the average Prince fan to be abnormally large. This explains the ease and frequency of their panties bunching up in it. |
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