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Reply #30 posted 01/15/03 5:02am

ian

TRON said:

Mindflux said:

Tron - I have an Ibanez Gem and I think it's fantastic. Lovely action, very fast to play, and I've had a go on a rare Ibanez Artist as well which was just a dream! You don't rate Ibanez then? As stated, I'm a drummer and keyboard player first and foremost, so my "expertise", such as it is, lies in those areas.

Who would be your favourite manufacturer and what would you recommend to someone at an intermediate level?

Actually, I can't say that I've ever played one. I just remember a catch phrase that this blues player used to say about Ibanez translating to I'vebeenhad. I really wanted one when I was younger actually. I'm sure they're great. They do have a heavy metal assosciation that I think has kept me from getting one. Right now I have a custom Fender Strat, a vintage Gibson Explorer, an old acoustic, a junky bass, and my new cloud guitar. I'd say overall for the money, Gibson is the best value.


If you have an Explorer you're not allowed make fun of the BC Rich guitars biggrin biggrin

If any friends are getting started on guitar and asking for advice on a brand, I usually tell them to get a Squier (cheap brand Fender) strat - although I'm not a strat player myself I've always been impressed with the value for beginners - decent build quality, some "ok" wood underneath the lacquer, and very versatile tonally.
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Reply #31 posted 01/15/03 5:03am

TRON

ian said:

TRON said:

Mindflux said:

Tron - I have an Ibanez Gem and I think it's fantastic. Lovely action, very fast to play, and I've had a go on a rare Ibanez Artist as well which was just a dream! You don't rate Ibanez then? As stated, I'm a drummer and keyboard player first and foremost, so my "expertise", such as it is, lies in those areas.

Who would be your favourite manufacturer and what would you recommend to someone at an intermediate level?

Actually, I can't say that I've ever played one. I just remember a catch phrase that this blues player used to say about Ibanez translating to I'vebeenhad. I really wanted one when I was younger actually. I'm sure they're great. They do have a heavy metal assosciation that I think has kept me from getting one. Right now I have a custom Fender Strat, a vintage Gibson Explorer, an old acoustic, a junky bass, and my new cloud guitar. I'd say overall for the money, Gibson is the best value.



If you have an Explorer you're not allowed make fun of the BC Rich guitars biggrin biggrin

If any friends are getting started on guitar and asking for advice on a brand, I usually tell them to get a Squier (cheap brand Fender) strat - although I'm not a strat player myself I've always been impressed with the value for beginners - decent build quality, some "ok" wood underneath the lacquer, and very versatile tonally.


Why's that?
[This message was edited Wed Jan 15 5:04:16 PST 2003 by TRON]
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Reply #32 posted 01/15/03 5:08am

ian

TRON said:

ian said:

TRON said:

Mindflux said:

Tron - I have an Ibanez Gem and I think it's fantastic. Lovely action, very fast to play, and I've had a go on a rare Ibanez Artist as well which was just a dream! You don't rate Ibanez then? As stated, I'm a drummer and keyboard player first and foremost, so my "expertise", such as it is, lies in those areas.

Who would be your favourite manufacturer and what would you recommend to someone at an intermediate level?

Actually, I can't say that I've ever played one. I just remember a catch phrase that this blues player used to say about Ibanez translating to I'vebeenhad. I really wanted one when I was younger actually. I'm sure they're great. They do have a heavy metal assosciation that I think has kept me from getting one. Right now I have a custom Fender Strat, a vintage Gibson Explorer, an old acoustic, a junky bass, and my new cloud guitar. I'd say overall for the money, Gibson is the best value.



If you have an Explorer you're not allowed make fun of the BC Rich guitars biggrin biggrin

If any friends are getting started on guitar and asking for advice on a brand, I usually tell them to get a Squier (cheap brand Fender) strat - although I'm not a strat player myself I've always been impressed with the value for beginners - decent build quality, some "ok" wood underneath the lacquer, and very versatile tonally.


Why's that?
[This message was edited Wed Jan 15 5:04:16 PST 2003 by TRON]


Ah I'm just kidding. I associate the Explorer with 70s prog rock smile Reminds me of Spinal Tap smile
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Reply #33 posted 01/15/03 5:10am

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ian said:


I can't play Gibson guitars generally, I've never found one with a suitable shape for my small hands - the necks are always too deep, the action too high etc. Pity coz I've always wanted an ES335.



they are sweet guitars... i've got the epiphone version of it... cherry red with the black pick guard...

i know what you're saying about the shape of the neck... i have some difficulty with certain chord shapes because of the size of the neck and the fact that my fingers are kinda short... but i can play these same chords just fine on a fender strat, which has a much thinner neck... that said, i wouldn't trade it for anything in the world... love the look and the tone...
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Reply #34 posted 01/15/03 5:13am

TRON

ian said:

TRON said:

ian said:

TRON said:

Mindflux said:

Tron - I have an Ibanez Gem and I think it's fantastic. Lovely action, very fast to play, and I've had a go on a rare Ibanez Artist as well which was just a dream! You don't rate Ibanez then? As stated, I'm a drummer and keyboard player first and foremost, so my "expertise", such as it is, lies in those areas.

Who would be your favourite manufacturer and what would you recommend to someone at an intermediate level?

Actually, I can't say that I've ever played one. I just remember a catch phrase that this blues player used to say about Ibanez translating to I'vebeenhad. I really wanted one when I was younger actually. I'm sure they're great. They do have a heavy metal assosciation that I think has kept me from getting one. Right now I have a custom Fender Strat, a vintage Gibson Explorer, an old acoustic, a junky bass, and my new cloud guitar. I'd say overall for the money, Gibson is the best value.



If you have an Explorer you're not allowed make fun of the BC Rich guitars biggrin biggrin

If any friends are getting started on guitar and asking for advice on a brand, I usually tell them to get a Squier (cheap brand Fender) strat - although I'm not a strat player myself I've always been impressed with the value for beginners - decent build quality, some "ok" wood underneath the lacquer, and very versatile tonally.


Why's that?
[This message was edited Wed Jan 15 5:04:16 PST 2003 by TRON]


Ah I'm just kidding. I associate the Explorer with 70s prog rock smile Reminds me of Spinal Tap smile

LOL. Funny. Mine def doens't look prog rock. I always assosciate them with The Edge from U2.
[This message was edited Wed Jan 15 5:14:10 PST 2003 by TRON]
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Reply #35 posted 01/15/03 5:23am

TRON

This is turning out to be the most popular "org musician hangout" thread ever! And that wasn't even my intention. Cool!
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Reply #36 posted 01/15/03 5:23am

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im lookin at this guy's eBay Prince store & he has TWO BC Rich guitars on there! same color!

hmmm . .. . .sounds dodgy 2 me
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Reply #37 posted 01/15/03 5:52am

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For those that might be interested (and, incidentally, not a bad link considering the "prog-rock" mentions on here), here are two piccies of the Artist and GEM in use! It's not me playing guitar, it's my good friend Ed Wynne (certainly one of the best guitarists in the world at the moment), but I am the ugly one on percussion - lol!





Ian - maybe this is like watching Spinal Tap??!!!
...we have only scratched the surface of what the mind can do...

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Reply #38 posted 01/15/03 5:52am

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Uhm, back to the drawing board!! I wonder why that didn't work...
...we have only scratched the surface of what the mind can do...

My dance project;
www.zubzub.co.uk

Listen to any of my tracks in full, for free, here;
www.zubzub.bandcamp.com

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Reply #39 posted 01/15/03 5:59am

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Perhaps this will work...





Perhaps not the best and clearest shots of the guitars, but are all I have available online for now!
...we have only scratched the surface of what the mind can do...

My dance project;
www.zubzub.co.uk

Listen to any of my tracks in full, for free, here;
www.zubzub.bandcamp.com

Go and glisten wink
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Reply #40 posted 01/15/03 6:00am

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Woohoo!!
...we have only scratched the surface of what the mind can do...

My dance project;
www.zubzub.co.uk

Listen to any of my tracks in full, for free, here;
www.zubzub.bandcamp.com

Go and glisten wink
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Reply #41 posted 01/15/03 6:04am

ian

EllisDee said:

ian said:


I can't play Gibson guitars generally, I've never found one with a suitable shape for my small hands - the necks are always too deep, the action too high etc. Pity coz I've always wanted an ES335.



they are sweet guitars... i've got the epiphone version of it... cherry red with the black pick guard...

i know what you're saying about the shape of the neck... i have some difficulty with certain chord shapes because of the size of the neck and the fact that my fingers are kinda short... but i can play these same chords just fine on a fender strat, which has a much thinner neck... that said, i wouldn't trade it for anything in the world... love the look and the tone...


Lovely guitars, I just can't play em smile

I like a slim neck, gloss finish, with good access for the high frets. Any Gibson (or Epiphone) I've tried has just been impossible for me to play sad
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Reply #42 posted 01/15/03 6:08am

ian

TRON said:


LOL. Funny. Mine def doens't look prog rock. I always assosciate them with The Edge from U2.


Curses, now you know I can't poke fun at the Explorer or it will mean poking fun at U2 and I can't do that since I'm Irish smile Tricky!
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Reply #43 posted 01/15/03 6:18am

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ian said:


Lovely guitars, I just can't play em smile

I like a slim neck, gloss finish, with good access for the high frets. Any Gibson (or Epiphone) I've tried has just been impossible for me to play sad


it's a damn shame, too... when i first got the guitar, i considered giving up many times... "my fingers just can't do that"... but, i keep pressing on... for better or worse... generally, i think it's the latter...
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Reply #44 posted 01/15/03 6:36am

TRON

ian said:

TRON said:


LOL. Funny. Mine def doens't look prog rock. I always assosciate them with The Edge from U2.


Curses, now you know I can't poke fun at the Explorer or it will mean poking fun at U2 and I can't do that since I'm Irish smile Tricky!

Gotcha!
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Reply #45 posted 01/15/03 7:40am

timur

Last month i bought a hohner telecaster The Prinz at ebay

in germany, i paid 401 euro ( 400 dollar)!

The guitar looks beautiful and sounds very funky with very

good sustain and fantastic attack!
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Reply #46 posted 01/15/03 7:45am

ian

timur said:

Last month i bought a hohner telecaster The Prinz at ebay

in germany, i paid 401 euro ( 400 dollar)!

The guitar looks beautiful and sounds very funky with very

good sustain and fantastic attack!


That's a good price! What is the headstock like, is it the newer pointier one or the old-style curvy one? And how about the scratchplate, and the skunk stripe? Prince's stripe is quite wide compared to the newer TE Prinz guitars.
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Reply #47 posted 01/15/03 9:46am

cranshaw62

Somebody put on Fake by Alex O Neal please?

Not to turn this into an Ibanez Forum but I also have an 89 Jem same as the photo black with green pickups. And green vines w/PAF PROS.

These guitars aren't just "Superstrats".

You can use the neck pickup for jazz. The two and 4 positions for a "funk" strat sound. The middle pickup for a tele tone and of course the back pickup for solos.

As far as acoustic guitars Taylors are very nice and Carvin is very underrated as far as their bass guitars and their acoustics but both are very good.

OK. Back to our Prince chats.
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Reply #48 posted 01/15/03 1:37pm

timur

ian said:

timur said:

Last month i bought a hohner telecaster The Prinz at ebay

in germany, i paid 401 euro ( 400 dollar)!

The guitar looks beautiful and sounds very funky with very

good sustain and fantastic attack!


That's a good price! What is the headstock like, is it the newer pointier one or the old-style curvy one? And how about the scratchplate, and the skunk stripe? Prince's stripe is quite wide compared to the newer TE Prinz guitars.


The headstock is the neweone,not the curvy one!I don`t know what u mean with Scratchplate or skunk stripe!I don´t
speak very well english!Sorry! Please can u explain me what u mean? Thank u
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Reply #49 posted 01/15/03 3:12pm

ian

cranshaw62 said:

Somebody put on Fake by Alex O Neal please?

Not to turn this into an Ibanez Forum but I also have an 89 Jem same as the photo black with green pickups. And green vines w/PAF PROS.

These guitars aren't just "Superstrats".

You can use the neck pickup for jazz. The two and 4 positions for a "funk" strat sound. The middle pickup for a tele tone and of course the back pickup for solos.

As far as acoustic guitars Taylors are very nice and Carvin is very underrated as far as their bass guitars and their acoustics but both are very good.

OK. Back to our Prince chats.


My preference is for Martin acoustics, Fender teles (preferably maple with gloss neck finish), and Warwick basses (although I had a Musicman before that).
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Reply #50 posted 01/15/03 3:14pm

ian

timur said:

ian said:

timur said:

Last month i bought a hohner telecaster The Prinz at ebay

in germany, i paid 401 euro ( 400 dollar)!

The guitar looks beautiful and sounds very funky with very

good sustain and fantastic attack!


That's a good price! What is the headstock like, is it the newer pointier one or the old-style curvy one? And how about the scratchplate, and the skunk stripe? Prince's stripe is quite wide compared to the newer TE Prinz guitars.


The headstock is the neweone,not the curvy one!I don`t know what u mean with Scratchplate or skunk stripe!I don´t
speak very well english!Sorry! Please can u explain me what u mean? Thank u


No problem... the "skunk stripe" is the stripe which goes all around body and neck of the guitar - starts beside the neck pickup, goes around the base of the guitar, and continues up the body and the neck, right up to the headstock.

The scratchplate is the "pick-guard" - the big plastic piece where you strum the strings, which has a hole cut for the neck pickup etc.
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Reply #51 posted 01/15/03 8:52pm

savoirfaire

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I really really want those framed awards.
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Reply #52 posted 01/15/03 11:55pm

sdbm

I've got an awesome vintage air guitar - humbuckers, super-slinky shreddable strings and maple fretboard. And when I've finished playing I can sweep the floor with it.
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Reply #53 posted 01/16/03 1:11am

hectim

YES PLEASE!!! I'm dying to see that article!

Oh and on BC Rich... I'm pretty sure I saw Mike "Kidd Funkadelic" Hampton play one (Warlock) recently which means they GOT to be funky. However, for a truly funky axe check my avatar smile

hectim


Yeah, I remember in Guitar Player magazine back in 1999 they had Prince's whole setup mapped out in there. The pedal board was correct too cuz I checked it out when I saw him at Paisley Park earlier that month. I can't remember everything, but I know he had the out of print Boss Vibrato and a Blues Driver pedal as well. I'll try to dig it up somewhere and list it.[/quote]
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Reply #54 posted 01/16/03 2:35am

ian

hectim said:

YES PLEASE!!! I'm dying to see that article!

Oh and on BC Rich... I'm pretty sure I saw Mike "Kidd Funkadelic" Hampton play one (Warlock) recently which means they GOT to be funky. However, for a truly funky axe check my avatar smile

hectim


Yeah, I remember in Guitar Player magazine back in 1999 they had Prince's whole setup mapped out in there. The pedal board was correct too cuz I checked it out when I saw him at Paisley Park earlier that month. I can't remember everything, but I know he had the out of print Boss Vibrato and a Blues Driver pedal as well. I'll try to dig it up somewhere and list it.
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Hmm the Warlock might be the single most ugly guitar ever made biggrin It's like something Kiss would play smile
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Reply #55 posted 01/16/03 2:43am

timur

ian said:

timur said:

ian said:

timur said:

Last month i bought a hohner telecaster The Prinz at ebay

in germany, i paid 401 euro ( 400 dollar)!

The guitar looks beautiful and sounds very funky with very

good sustain and fantastic attack!


That's a good price! What is the headstock like, is it the newer pointier one or the old-style curvy one? And how about the scratchplate, and the skunk stripe? Prince's stripe is quite wide compared to the newer TE Prinz guitars.


The headstock is the neweone,not the curvy one!I don`t know what u mean with Scratchplate or skunk stripe!I don´t
speak very well english!Sorry! Please can u explain me what u mean? Thank u


No problem... the "skunk stripe" is the stripe which goes all around body and neck of the guitar - starts beside the neck pickup, goes around the base of the guitar, and continues up the body and the neck, right up to the headstock.

The scratchplate is the "pick-guard" - the big plastic piece where you strum the strings, which has a hole cut for the neck pickup etc.

Thank u, my stripe is on the neck smaller than on the body!

The scratchplate is the same like Prince´s!
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