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Thread started 12/30/09 10:57pm

Bordi

Prince Guitar Hero!!

Look we all know that Prince was offered money for Purple Rain and Little Red Corvette to be featured on a guitar hero game, in saying that im not looking for people to post the link where it explains that he rejected the offer blah, blah, blah. Im after peoples ideas about how the game, if you could design it or even one aspect of it how would it look? what about song lists, costume ideas, new peripherals. It doesnt matter what it is, put your idea down, this is a forum and the game does not exist so let your imagination run wild. i wanna hear it all. And if this topic gets alot of activity ill share something of mine im sure you would find interesting.
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Reply #1 posted 12/30/09 11:02pm

shonenjoe

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If they released a Prince - Rock Band game
I would buy it in a heartbeat
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Reply #2 posted 12/30/09 11:05pm

Bordi

Well lets be serious here.If Rockband is your game, then of course you can suggest things. after all theyre pretty much the same thing.
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Reply #3 posted 12/30/09 11:21pm

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Prince doesn't have to appear in a "Guitar Hero" game to be a real Guitar Hero, because he is already one. If someone wants to give tribute to his under-appreciated guitar abilities--they will buy a real guitar and take the time to learn the chords themselves...as well as other great guitar players! Forget Guitar Hero the game, play guitar and be your own hero! biggrin
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Reply #4 posted 12/30/09 11:34pm

Bordi

I knew someone would hold this view. And i do agree with you, Prince is an amazing guitarist, definatly under-appreciated. And learning his songs on guitar would be great, but some would just be really hard. And guitar hero isnt a substitute for real guitar and it definately doesnt draw people away from real instruments. Its just an outlet for fun, you can play around with your friends as a band. This is good fun for people who like me have tried guitar and just cant do it. And some people dont have the time or money to commit to real guitar. All im saying is that its just for fun, for people to enjoy their favorite songs from their favorite artist. IM sure you would feel good playing your fave prince song with your firends. And im sure it helps prince but i wouldnt see it as a form of major publicity for Prince.
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Reply #5 posted 12/30/09 11:40pm

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another bad business decision by prince.

those games, like 'em or not, make those artists a ton of money and expose kids to music they wouldn't hear otherwise.

prince really makes terrible business choices.
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Reply #6 posted 12/30/09 11:55pm

Bordi

cborgman said:

another bad business decision by prince.

those games, like 'em or not, make those artists a ton of money and expose kids to music they wouldn't hear otherwise.

prince really makes terrible business choices.
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Reply #7 posted 12/31/09 12:11am

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cborgman said:

another bad business decision by prince.

those games, like 'em or not, make those artists a ton of money and expose kids to music they wouldn't hear otherwise.

prince really makes terrible business choices.


Co-Sign...just think if you could pick wardrobes of different eras..he's wearing the 1999 trenchcoat,but you're rocking out to Chaos and Disorder.Dressed up SOTT era but trying to do that solo at the end of Why u wanna treat me so bad?..Make a commmercial with hot chicks playing it (ala that famous internet video im sure we've all seen) and BOOM!..I smell a hit
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Reply #8 posted 12/31/09 12:58am

Paris9748430

cborgman said:

another bad business decision by prince.

those games, like 'em or not, make those artists a ton of money and expose kids to music they wouldn't hear otherwise.

prince really makes terrible business choices.
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I don't think he cares.

If Prince makes a business decision that makes him a lot of money, people say all he cares about is money.

When Prince doesn't do projects like this that are successful, he's a bad business man.

In this case, Prince doesn't care about how much money he could make.

Would it be cool if Prince's music was on Rock Band or Guitar Hero? Of course, but there's gonna be other opportunities for him down the line.
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Reply #9 posted 12/31/09 1:06am

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Paris9748430 said:

cborgman said:

another bad business decision by prince.

those games, like 'em or not, make those artists a ton of money and expose kids to music they wouldn't hear otherwise.

prince really makes terrible business choices.
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I don't think he cares.

If Prince makes a business decision that makes him a lot of money, people say all he cares about is money.

When Prince doesn't do projects like this that are successful, he's a bad business man.

In this case, Prince doesn't care about how much money he could make.

Would it be cool if Prince's music was on Rock Band or Guitar Hero? Of course, but there's gonna be other opportunities for him down the line.

the bad businessman title isn't earned by just this example, it's earned from years and years of making very poor and often erratic business choices.

this is just one in example in a whole slew of bad choices.

sadly, this example is one of the much lesser examples.
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Reply #10 posted 12/31/09 1:22am

Paris9748430

cborgman said:

Paris9748430 said:




I don't think he cares.

If Prince makes a business decision that makes him a lot of money, people say all he cares about is money.

When Prince doesn't do projects like this that are successful, he's a bad business man.

In this case, Prince doesn't care about how much money he could make.

Would it be cool if Prince's music was on Rock Band or Guitar Hero? Of course, but there's gonna be other opportunities for him down the line.

the bad businessman title isn't earned by just this example, it's earned from years and years of making very poor and often erratic business choices.

this is just one in example in a whole slew of bad choices.

sadly, this example is one of the much lesser examples.
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It's not like he's going broke anytime soon.

Prince could play a 20,000 seat arena and sell it out anywhere in the world if he wanted to

That's how he makes a majority of his money, because that's what he's good at.

That's his business, and that's really all he has to do.
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Reply #11 posted 12/31/09 1:25am

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Prince is a Rich man, but not the mogul he set out to be after the success of purple rain. I think he has his moments of creativy when it comes to where and how he plays and distribution but for the most part he tends to shun involvement with proven business models like guitar hero. If the idea dont come from him and excludes as many people as possible he's not down with it- but he can afford to be this way.
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Reply #12 posted 12/31/09 1:40am

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Paris9748430 said:

cborgman said:


the bad businessman title isn't earned by just this example, it's earned from years and years of making very poor and often erratic business choices.

this is just one in example in a whole slew of bad choices.

sadly, this example is one of the much lesser examples.
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It's not like he's going broke anytime soon.

Prince could play a 20,000 seat arena and sell it out anywhere in the world if he wanted to

That's how he makes a majority of his money, because that's what he's good at.

That's his business, and that's really all he has to do.


so, you don't think he cares about making money?

someone who doesn't care about money would not then charge his most dedicated fans almost 8 times the amount of retail for an album that he sells at retail price to everyone else, with only the possibility of maybe getting a t-shirt as the bonus.

that's a man that cares about making money. that's a cutthroat business choice.

so, no, i don't believe he isn't in this for the money on some level.
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Reply #13 posted 12/31/09 2:01am

Paris9748430

cborgman said:

Paris9748430 said:



It's not like he's going broke anytime soon.

Prince could play a 20,000 seat arena and sell it out anywhere in the world if he wanted to

That's how he makes a majority of his money, because that's what he's good at.

That's his business, and that's really all he has to do.


so, you don't think he cares about making money?

someone who doesn't care about money would not then charge his most dedicated fans almost 8 times the amount of retail for an album that he sells at retail price to everyone else, with only the possibility of maybe getting a t-shirt as the bonus.

that's a man that cares about making money. that's a cutthroat business choice.

so, no, i don't believe he isn't in this for the money on some level.
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I never said that he didn't care about money, or that he's never made bad business decisions.


The 77 dollar membership to LotusFlow3r isn't just for the album.

It was supposed to be a place where Prince where members got videos, music, 1st dibs on concert tickets, etc.

Obviously, the website isn't good.

What I'm saying is that Prince can't win with certain people.

If he's using opportunities to make a lot of money, people say all he cares about is money.

If he decides to decline money making opportunities, he's a bad business man.

Prince isn't the only artist to turn down the use of his music for Rhythm-Based games like Guitar Hero and Rock Band.

I'm not sure if Prince's music being in a Video Game is as good idea as it used to be anyway .

For every great game like Beatles: Rock Band. There's awful garbage like Guitar Hero Van Halen and Guitar Hero Aerosmith.
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Reply #14 posted 12/31/09 2:06am

cborgman

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Paris9748430 said:

cborgman said:



so, you don't think he cares about making money?

someone who doesn't care about money would not then charge his most dedicated fans almost 8 times the amount of retail for an album that he sells at retail price to everyone else, with only the possibility of maybe getting a t-shirt as the bonus.

that's a man that cares about making money. that's a cutthroat business choice.

so, no, i don't believe he isn't in this for the money on some level.
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I never said that he didn't care about money, or that he's never made bad business decisions.


The 77 dollar membership to LotusFlow3r isn't just for the album.

It was supposed to be a place where Prince where members got videos, music, 1st dibs on concert tickets, etc.

Obviously, the website isn't good.

What I'm saying is that Prince can't win with certain people.

If he's using opportunities to make a lot of money, people say all he cares about is money.

If he decides to decline money making opportunities, he's a bad business man.

Prince isn't the only artist to turn down the use of his music for Rhythm-Based games like Guitar Hero and Rock Band.

I'm not sure if Prince's music being in a Video Game is as good idea as it used to be anyway .

For every great game like Beatles: Rock Band. There's awful garbage like Guitar Hero Van Halen and Guitar Hero Aerosmith.

i don't think anyone would say he was all about the money if he had said yes to this.
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Reply #15 posted 12/31/09 8:38am

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He wouldn't do this in a million years.
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Reply #16 posted 12/31/09 9:18am

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cborgman said:

another bad business decision by prince.

those games, like 'em or not, make those artists a ton of money and expose kids to music they wouldn't hear otherwise.

prince really makes terrible business choices.
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Prince is not about making money all of the time. I don't think he likes the way it "exploits" the music.
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Reply #17 posted 12/31/09 9:26am

Amorist

Ive never played Guitar or hold an interest in any of the games like that out. If there was one for Prince then hell yes I would get it. Being able to do those amazing Guitar solos would be great entertainment.

Purple Rain, Computer Blue, Endorphine Machine, Lion of Judah , Million Days, Guitar, I Hate U , so many!!!


Lets not forget Little Red Corvette....(lol rhymed)
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Reply #18 posted 12/31/09 10:42am

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He wouldn't do this in a million years.



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Reply #19 posted 12/31/09 12:45pm

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Bordi said:

cborgman said:

another bad business decision by prince.

those games, like 'em or not, make those artists a ton of money and expose kids to music they wouldn't hear otherwise.

prince really makes terrible business choices.
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Undeterred nevertheless a masterpiece on butterscotch thighs

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Reply #20 posted 12/31/09 1:08pm

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Kid's these day's haven't a clue who he is, to look at perhaps but musically no... confused
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Reply #21 posted 12/31/09 1:31pm

Paris9748430

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Bordi said:


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Him playing the SuperBowl Halftime Show brought him a bigger audience and introduced him to a new generation a lot better than any video game could.

2-3 Million people buying a Video Game vs 100 Million People watching him perform.

He can't make a bigger move than that.
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Reply #22 posted 12/31/09 2:44pm

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daPrettyman said:

cborgman said:

another bad business decision by prince.

those games, like 'em or not, make those artists a ton of money and expose kids to music they wouldn't hear otherwise.

prince really makes terrible business choices.
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Prince is not about making money all of the time. I don't think he likes the way it "exploits" the music.

how does it exploit the music?

those games open people up to musci they would never otherwise listen to. i personally would never have given ac/dc (among others) a second thought before playing those games.
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Reply #23 posted 12/31/09 2:47pm

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Paris9748430 said:

jj312119 said:


nod


Him playing the SuperBowl Halftime Show brought him a bigger audience and introduced him to a new generation a lot better than any video game could.

2-3 Million people buying a Video Game vs 100 Million People watching him perform.

He can't make a bigger move than that.

actually, he can.
the superbowl performance was 15 minutes a few years ago.

those games have been around for years, and are getting bigger, and will continue to get bigger, year after year after year...
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Reply #24 posted 12/31/09 3:58pm

Paris9748430

cborgman said:

Paris9748430 said:



Him playing the SuperBowl Halftime Show brought him a bigger audience and introduced him to a new generation a lot better than any video game could.

2-3 Million people buying a Video Game vs 100 Million People watching him perform.

He can't make a bigger move than that.

actually, he can.
the superbowl performance was 15 minutes a few years ago.

those games have been around for years, and are getting bigger, and will continue to get bigger, year after year after year...



They're also getting worse year after year after year.

With the exception of Beatles Rock Band and I've heard Guitar Hero 5 was pretty Good.

What they do mostly is try to put Band's Names and use their image to sell games that wind up being awful.
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Reply #25 posted 12/31/09 4:16pm

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Paris9748430 said:

cborgman said:


actually, he can.
the superbowl performance was 15 minutes a few years ago.

those games have been around for years, and are getting bigger, and will continue to get bigger, year after year after year...



They're also getting worse year after year after year.

With the exception of Beatles Rock Band and I've heard Guitar Hero 5 was pretty Good.

What they do mostly is try to put Band's Names and use their image to sell games that wind up being awful.


well, at your estimate of 2-3 million per title, they must be terrible, since people are buying them in the millions. if there is one thing people do when they are unhappy with something, it's buy it again and again and again, causing the entire industry to flourish and make fortunes.
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Reply #26 posted 12/31/09 4:58pm

Paris9748430

cborgman said:

Paris9748430 said:




They're also getting worse year after year after year.

With the exception of Beatles Rock Band and I've heard Guitar Hero 5 was pretty Good.

What they do mostly is try to put Band's Names and use their image to sell games that wind up being awful.


well, at your estimate of 2-3 million per title, they must be terrible, since people are buying them in the millions. if there is one thing people do when they are unhappy with something, it's buy it again and again and again, causing the entire industry to flourish and make fortunes.


Just because a lot of people buy something doesn't mean it's any good.

Rhythm Games are very popular, but they're also starting to flood the market.

Hell, there have been as many as 8 Guitar Hero Games in 2009 alone.

Not every one of these games are selling 2-3 million copies.

I've been playing these games from the very beginning.
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Reply #27 posted 12/31/09 5:41pm

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Paris9748430 said:

cborgman said:



well, at your estimate of 2-3 million per title, they must be terrible, since people are buying them in the millions. if there is one thing people do when they are unhappy with something, it's buy it again and again and again, causing the entire industry to flourish and make fortunes.


Just because a lot of people buy something doesn't mean it's any good.

Rhythm Games are very popular, but they're also starting to flood the market.

Hell, there have been as many as 8 Guitar Hero Games in 2009 alone.

Not every one of these games are selling 2-3 million copies.

I've been playing these games from the very beginning.

well, our opinion of the quality aside, people are buying them... in droves.

in fact, the guitar hero games alone passed the BILLION dollar mark 2 years ago. even wiuth the economy falling apart, i can't begin to imagine what the numbers are like now if they crossed a BILLIOn two years ago.
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Reply #28 posted 12/31/09 6:08pm

Paris9748430

cborgman said:

Paris9748430 said:



Just because a lot of people buy something doesn't mean it's any good.

Rhythm Games are very popular, but they're also starting to flood the market.

Hell, there have been as many as 8 Guitar Hero Games in 2009 alone.

Not every one of these games are selling 2-3 million copies.

I've been playing these games from the very beginning.

well, our opinion of the quality aside, people are buying them... in droves.

in fact, the guitar hero games alone passed the BILLION dollar mark 2 years ago. even wiuth the economy falling apart, i can't begin to imagine what the numbers are like now if they crossed a BILLIOn two years ago.



*Shrugs*

Oh, well.
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Reply #29 posted 01/07/10 7:20am

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cborgman said:

another bad business decision by prince.

those games, like 'em or not, make those artists a ton of money and expose kids to music they wouldn't hear otherwise.

prince really makes terrible business choices.
[Edited 12/30/09 23:41pm]

Point is well taken, but Prince also has never been a sale out. The entire sale out model is why music is where it is today. In a mess.

He does cheat himself out of money, but he makes money without it. He WORKS for his money... imagine that. He has thrown a scam here and there, but he is a MUCH better performer (worker) than a scammer (producer, manager, salesman... anyone who profits off the title of another).

Prince knows the value of his name, or at least he has a perception of that value, maybe even a delusion, and I bet the bottom line was the game creaters did not offer him exclusive control and more money on top of that.
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