oh god... do we need to have this talk EVERY week?

japanrocks said:

It charted in The Netherlands and Belgium as well.

jayquan said:

Prince may have made more up front from Lotusflower but those Purple Rain royalties are still rolling in year after year, decade after decade. Didn't one of those magazines estimate once that he makes about $14 million a year just from publishing royalties? There are no publishing royalties to be made from LF because none of those songs are being played anywhere.

Graycap23 said:

Warner Bros. did not make $8 per unit on those albums. Retail price is generally at least 3x what the initial supplier gets for the item. Then you have to subtract whatever costs went into production and manufacturing, including paying the artists, producers, etc.

I don't dispute WB made out better than Prince, but they didn't grab full retail price for every unit they shipped, either.
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jimmyrogertodd said:

You want him to what?

stanleylieber said:

That $8.00 is the retail price.

Graycap23 said:

Yes.

stanleylieber said:

wow

stanleylieber said:

Where have you been? I've missed you.

Vendetta1 said:

c'mere you

stanleylieber said:

Graycap23 said:

U sure? U know what U are like with numbers.

SPOOKYGAS said:

Ohh lawrd.....

stanleylieber said:

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I have heard some of the songs on XM radio. So your wrong the songs are being played somewhere in addition, artist don't always get the royalties that should from record companies or radio plays. In the long run taking a chuck of cash from a retailer and spliting whatever profits are made on sales may be a better deal. You don't have to spead time or money figthing to get royalites.

RodeoSchro said:

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If you signed up for Lotusflower with really no promise of what the content would be don't you chaulk that up to a mistake on your part.

laurarichardson said:

If you think some misguided notion of "capitalism" excuses despicable behavior, don't you think that's a character flaw on your part?

laurarichardson said:

And stop with the BS revisionist lie that subscribers weren't promised better content on the site.

laurarichardson said:

I agree, and if LF was anywhere nearly as successful as PR, Prince would obviously stand to make a lot more money from LF. My point is that I do not believe for a second that Prince has made more money from LF than he made from PR. The hits from his early albums have been in regular rotation on FM radio for over two decades. Nothing from LF is going to generate those kinds of royalties. He may have taken in more than $4 million up front, but there's not going to be much else on the back end. He'll be making money from PR for the rest of his life.

laurarichardson said:

Exactly. Comparing 2days model to 1984's model of the music business is pointless IMHO. Different day, different game, different rules, different artists.
My comments is strickly related 2 sells and nothing more. Royality rates are a different game all together. U think think Prince's annual royality checks ONLY relate 2 Purple Rain?

Graycap23 said:

Of course not, but we both know a major portion of that money comes from PR songs, which are played on radio and television all over the world numerous times every day.

In that case I bet he couldn’t wait for his royalty cheque after Dec 31st 1998!
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Prince believes it is a success as soon as he creates it..for better or worse. He is the best example of why an artists needs others to help him edit pick the winners from the losers. We all know this.

Anyway, what is the point in judging P by sales. Who cares.,.he does not. At this point, we just want to know that he's trying and not on auto pilot. LF is a great disc. I realized that I dno't have time to really enjoy albums anymore. However, on a 120Km drive a few months ago I listened to LF very loud in the car and have to say- it works very well together and it's always a thrill to hear him play guitar loud. TO go from Wall of Berlin into $ is something we take for granted b/c of how versitile we have expected him to be but it struck me that night....we take his abilities for granted. The guy is just amazing but his best years are behind him. So what - you can always go and listen to that stuff.