2elijah said:

no no no no no no no no no! jeeping christ.

mrsquirrel said:

I believe this is being done already. I saw a program on this, on the planet cable channel.

2elijah said:

could it clause salty rain? that could have catastrophic global consaquences.

I don't know much about this subject as it applies to poorer neighborhoods in the US. However, I do consider that it is a possible occurrence. Some governments do turn against their own people.

OnlyNDaUsa said:

I'm not a scientist, you'll have to contact the scientists that believe this process will help reduce global warming.
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thanks for the awesome replies! i have worked in the health profession as a HIPPA compliance officer, which means i have studied the privacy act regarding access to your individual health information. i understand that the government has access to most health information under the guise of "preventing outbreaks" and furthermore i saw the very small health practice i was part of take on new digital record keeping that is already mainstreem in most larger hospitals and that is easily accessable by the government aka pentagon

i had a friend who told me jets exhaust disipates and i have seen many jets as i live by an air force base and confirmed that they do not naturally leave a trail that stays in the air like those long ass "chem trails" do.

so lets assume prince is right and they are dropping subtle bio experiments on citizens just as they used to dose soldiers with lsd (without telling them) to see if it would make them more aggressive in combat. if this is true we can assume the gov. monitors the results of said bio experiments thru the medical system.

i would not assume prince referes to his bands as THE REVOLUTION or THE NEW POWER GENERATION just because they sound cool. artists often are the only conduit of truth in any oppressive system. the powers of globalization benefit from the weakness and strife of the people they oppress.

i wonder what prince's views are on h1n1 oft believed to be a manmade disease. and why is the public aggressively being pressured thru fear into INJECTING thoroughly untested and unproven vaccines.

then there is THE WAR refering to micro chips in your brain, which as evidence shows people are already volunteering for under the guise of safety from "terrorism" which there is already documentary after documentary arguing that we bombed our own people. see 911 truth movement or the movie doc "zeitgeist"

prince also refers to an elite comunity that will be preserved while all others will be made to suffer and die under the global corporations agenda. could this be world domination in its most advanced age yet.

cudos to prince once again for raising the questions and standing up to the powers that oppress his people.. even if his music no longer blows my mind his ideas have always impressed me .. weather retiring his name .. or pioneering the independant internet musician .. or attempting to understand the ancient religions of the world or speaking out about the elite take over of the world .. i am impressed and happy that so many fans are open to his ideas as a lot of them make a lot of sense

TrevorAyer said:

Don't forget during the Gulf War Syndrome, many American pilots and soldiers came home and became seriously ill.. Many said they had no idea what they were spraying from their planes, but were just following orders. It was also used in the Vietnam war, and many Vietnamese suffered from disabilities, illness and death from it.

http://findarticles.com/p..._70378611/
[quote]
"In the aftermath of the Persian Gulf War, over 100,000 U.S. troops among the 700,000 who served in the region reported a mysterious cluster of severe health problems. Initially, the Pentagon dismissed the complaints and ruled out any kind of systematic investigation. However, due to the sheer number of cases, and because of pressure from veterans and their families who refused to be ignored, the government agreed to conduct preliminary studies. It concluded that most of the symptoms could be attributed to "stress," a finding that was quickly challenged. Allegations of a cover-up then ensued, with analogies drawn to the infamous Agent Orange debacle of the Vietnam War.."/quote]


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And instead of hearing about this on a grand scale and continued basis, we hear about Sarah Palin's grandbaby daddy, Lou Dobbs quitting CNN and Tiger Woods having a car accident on his own property.

DesireeNevermind said:

Hey we got to keep things in perspective. the President is about to send 1000s of young people to fight in a war so we have to remember the things that are really important.

DesireeNevermind said:

Exactly. The media tends to keep the things that actually matter out of the news.
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so um....is this why we don't have sky writing anymore?

indeed - when water vapor leaves the sea it leaves the salt behind, so this crazy climate solution is goin well against nature.

not sure what they use for current airborne cloud-seeding tho. might be silver particles. hence the lining...

DesireeNevermind said:

I remember the skywriting. Don't see it as much as I used to years ago though.

the media is owned by the global industries manipulators ... we are what germany was a brainwashed culture of sensationalism that will blindly follow whatever they say on the news but none of it is real news reporting it is simply rehashed scripts prepared as a distraction to the real agenda which is global oppression .. the media is completely owned by rupert murdoch a disgustingly filthy and immoral being

gyro34 said:

girl if you only knew what was next

So in summary... The guy is paranoid and nuts

unless of course he's admitting he used to go out and tear shit up and is now looking for an excuse

I paid my dues 2 the funk n sent a private chem trail thru a sanctioned G5....long live the PARK..B it Paisley, Beverly, or Coldwater stylie

PurpleDiamond2009 said:

What do you mean?

i think purple diamond means obama is ushering in the new world order as we speak check out this movie www.zeitgeist.com

TrevorAyer said:

Thank you TrevorAyer for starting this thread. Prince has raised a challenging and deep issue that affects everyone living in the U.S. but particularly the African-American community.

The chem trails seem to be in a similar vein as the Tuskegee Syphilis Experiment. Just like the subjects that were recruited for that experiment were not informed about its purpose and later not treated for the syphilis that was injected in them, no one in the media or governmental organizations are discussing anything about chem trails:
http://www.npr.org/progra.../tuskegee/

To me the pressure to get vaccinated for the h1n1 flu seems suspect. There are parents that blame vaccines for the development of autism in their sons. Jenny McCarthy being one celebrity who is very vocal about this position.

That is an interesting point you raise about the 9/11 incident.

TrevorAyer said:

How do I view the movie? Do I use Linked In?

2elijah said:

I recall the Gulf War Syndrome, but I didn't know that it was connected to Vietnam's Agent Orange.

TrevorAyer said:

and theres a whole bunch of other shit thats going on too that a lot of people dont know about yall better wake up

Chem trails? That simply will not do. There will be no nasty trails on my bed linen.

PurpleDiamond2009 said:

Heaven help us all, then.

I’m not going to state as a fact I believe in any of this, wink. I will state all of this in theory and hypotheses. I think some of the theories behind Chemtrails could be real, I have seen some crazy stories documented about it. One site spoke about people in rural communities having things growing out of their skin after the trails had been passing over them for some time. It is called Morgellons disease. Some believe the chemicals in the trails cause it.
If this was truth it would affect all people, especially cuz it’s said 2 be going down worldwide. The chemicals *in my opinion if this is the truth* are different for certain areas depending on the affects they would want 2 see. It can be depression, anger, violence, illness and many others. It also been said 2 contain mercury, lead, valium and other chemicals found in the traces.
Here’s an informative site, Prince’s video from Tavis is actually on it
http://chemtrails.bust.angelfire.com/
Now from what I found, Haarp is an interesting look up. Haarp has been said 2 it can affect the heavy metals in the air *which connect 2 what has been found in chemtrails* and electromagnetically change the energy on the planets grid.
As I have discovered in music, certain harmonics have different effects on the brain, in conspiracy theories it can be used for mind control warfare.
http://www.scientificamer...requencies
After finding this site
http://www.i-doser.com/st.../index.php
I thought 2 myself woah, if this is true and someone put a certain frequency into their music, would u become addicted 2 the song, could u become extremely sexual, or violent? So I started observing myself and certain actions of others when they are listening 2 certain music. Why are there styles and genres? Country, pop, r&b etc. *life doesn’t imitate music?* don’t become what u hear, see, feel.I had 2 take a step back and feel seperate 2 make desicions in my own heart, not be controled by some external source.
If the record companies knew this could that be why certain popular songs have similar beats, certain types of visuals that correlate with a certain feeling. I could even break it down into colors then energy, which produce stimuli and feelings which you can use in healing as well. That is for another topic
One thing I do know is everything has a certain harmonic, words, color and sound effect energy stemming from certain senses. The senses send signals 2 the brain and you have an emotional feeling thought or response. I know energy makes up all things, I know this from experience, and certain music or sounds even words make me feel a certain way.
If you have the time this is interesting it explains how music and frequency can affect the state of being
http://www.scribd.com/doc...Resonances
Now I was a skeptic at first, I still wonder about the truth but when I started researching this a while ago the dots kinda started 2 make sense. I still wonder about things but it’s quite interesting how much it seems possible or logical. From what I have read as well, the Navy uses low frequency sonar, around whales and dolphins and it has certainly effected their migrations and has killed many of them.
If it is indeed truth which it looks like could be it 2 me it’s a shame how they have killed so many beings in their testing. They are using low-frequency sonar, which is the same as what they are using in haarp. That should say something about the dangers of it, it does 2 me.
Are the chemtrails there in the sky? Yes, have there been doctors and scientist 2 confirm what’s in them is harmful? Yes, do things seem a bit off? In my opinion, absolutely. Even if they were protecting us from solar flares etc, there something not sitting right about it in my heart. Chemtrails are real from what I have seen on them, and I have observed them in the sky for a long time now. Even before they were being questioned a few years ago, I would say 2 my self wait, that’s not a cloud. Nature didn’t make that, it’s not right. Why is it spreading like that over the sun? I started noticing rainbows around the sun 2, from the sun shinning through the chemicals, clouds don’t do that. Oil and chemicals do, notice bubbles in the sun they are iridescent, why?. One thing I learned through all this is not 2 feed in 2 the fear they want u 2 feel, then they have power over u. It’s how they suck u in. I use this information as a means 2 be speculative on how I want 2 participate in my life, not what a organization structure expects or wants me 2 live as, it’s about free will! All of this is from my personal observation, experience and speculation. Peace

gyro34 said:

oh sorry here is a much easier link to the zeitgeist movie

http://www.youtube.com/wa...HiuaGJ46zo

This guy posted this info, but I bet he is a gov't drone, probable an android built with their reverse engineered alien technology, I know that because a scientist I found digging through my dumpster (made homeless by our gov't) showed me a youtube video he made that completely discredited the stuff below:

"chemtrails" look like contrails because they are contrails. Contrail is from condensation trail. A good article on them can be found here http://asd-www.larc.nasa....rails.html

Now, conspiricy theorists insiste that the US gov't is sparying citizens with chemicals/viruses surepticiously. That's right, the United States Government. The same government who couldn't hide a blow-job in the oval office. The same government who have continually failed to keep their nuclear secrets a secret. The same government unable to keep a few microphones in a hotel secret. The same government who couldn't even succesfully sell arms to a third world nation without getting in deep nfbsk! (end rant)(

The first point I want to make is that the contrails are very high up. Usually they occur behind aircraft with a flight level in excess of 30,000 feet. This is a very ineffective altitude to spary *anything* at because: 1) If it is a liquid, it will become vaperous at the speed they are traveling. The liquid will then follow whatever whims the weather has in store for it, but typically it would get locked into the prevailing winds at that altitude and (if it comes down at all) would come down in the atlantic. 2) If it is a solid, the dispersion would be nearly impossible to controll.

Other points. The 'Highflyers" making the contrails are actually fairly easy to identify. Buy a scanner and tune in to the local air traffic controll frequency. You can essentially play a game "plane spotting". In almost every case, you'll find that the "chemtrails" are comming from regular passanger flights.

You're more likely to see contrails when it is fairly warm out (i.e. you're sitting in the effects of an upper ridge). This, at the least, suggests that the trails are weather dependant.

Finally, clouds are not in any way solid. They wouldn't effect anything you're trying to drop or spray. If it made it down that far, it would fall through the cloud. Given that, and given that the millitary is sometimes smart... Wouldn't you think it would be logical to, if you are trying to be secretive about things, spray your chemicals when there is a blanket of low cloud that would prevent people from noticing?

Chemtrails are contrails. Contrails are condensation trails. They are, essentially, vapour comming off the engine and turning to small ice crystals which hang in the air. Basically, they're clou

sorry dude but ive watched jet planes leave a chem trail not passenger planes, no im not a gov. drone nor do i think prince is ... and your examples just show what our government has tried to get away with such as the iran contra scandal ... while people were busy staring at their tvs thinking everything is just fine ... it is very unfortunate that people do not understand how big and powerful these industries are ... especially the military and the drug makers. every political leader that was not part of the elite group of families has been murdered and i just found out yesterday that barrack is actually cousins with dick cheney ... anywayze watch the zietgeist movie or any footage of 9/11 towers dropping and try to convince yourself that it was not a controlled demolition. i cant do it. its just too plain to see and obvious. buildings just do not collapse at free fall rate naturally and the hole in the pentagon was not big enough to be an airplane ... unfortunately the implications of realizing our president committed treason and those in high office continue to for the sake of creating the patriot act which VIOLATES OUR CONSTITUTION.

this is a class war being waged using the same techniques as germany did. bomb yourself, cause citizens to voluntarily give up constitutional rights out of fear, and give the president emergency decision powers so he can take over the globe. we do not have a democracy ... we have a puppet democracy while the elite control the world. fortunately you are right in that hopefully they wont get away with it. but as long as people continue to be IGNORANT of real information ... not the spoon fed scripts you see repeated on every tv station ... we will be in this holding pattern headed for deep global oppression similar to the beaurocracies we revolted against when coming to america ... these patterns repeat over and over thruout history.