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Thread started 11/13/09 3:48pm

JarviusLovesex
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When Theres Bad Theres Good

While I was gone from the org,I found or listen to some fabolous songs.

Willing And Able(Alerternate Version) is my track of the week.

Daddy Pop was my track of last week.

I think Diamonds & Pearls is my fav album of all-time.


JUST WANNA DANCE AND SING SOMEBODY WATCH ME DO MY THANG
I SAID YEAH,COME ON,I SAID YEAH,COME ON
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Reply #1 posted 11/13/09 3:54pm

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It´s one of those albums people love to hate but I really,really like that album.
If it didn´t contain those Tony M. lines it would sound much better and timeless though. My favorite tracks are Insatiable,Money Don´t Matter 2Nite,Get Off,Thunder, Live 4 Love and Diamonds and Pearls. And I love the selfmotivational,uplifting message of the whole album,especially in songs like Walk Don´t Walk.

By the way, welcome back.
" I´d rather be a stank ass hoe because I´m not stupid. Oh my goodness! I got more drugs! I´m always funny dude...I´m hilarious! Are we gonna smoke?"
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Reply #2 posted 11/13/09 4:31pm

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KoolEaze said:

It´s one of those albums people love to hate but I really,really like that album.
If it didn´t contain those Tony M. lines it would sound much better and timeless though. My favorite tracks are Insatiable,Money Don´t Matter 2Nite,Get Off,Thunder, Live 4 Love and Diamonds and Pearls. And I love the selfmotivational,uplifting message of the whole album,especially in songs like Walk Don´t Walk.

By the way, welcome back.


Listening to Daddy POop right now for the 1st time in .... wow, years... It's a lot cooler than I remembered it. The script is a bit much but I'm feeling u on the uplifting lyrics though. It changes up nicely too. GUess I'm going to b revisiting this album..
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Reply #3 posted 11/14/09 5:30am

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"Diamonds & Pearls," is a great album.

...Brother's steady talkin' while the girlies steady hop...Pop Daddy..Punchin' in the rock-n-roll clock. Love this song. cool
"The Lion Sleeps Tonight...
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Reply #4 posted 11/14/09 7:06am

nurseV

Diamonds & Pearls worship


Nice to see you back Jarvey razz
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Reply #5 posted 11/14/09 8:30am

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You are so right about this album. I went and cherry picked a few classic songs to download from D&P to my ipod and when I listened to one song the other day and was mentally ready for the next one to play and I didn't have it downloaded, it just didn't feel right. I'll be ripping this entire cd to my ipod now and revisiting some songs, and a few other albums as well. It's not my fave of all time, but I do think it's good from start to finish.
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Reply #6 posted 11/14/09 8:38am

NONSENSE

D&P is a beautiful album.
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Reply #7 posted 11/14/09 12:13pm

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A bunch of reasons why ppl have bad feelings about it (or mayb I just speak for me). It has to do with where it came chronologically:

1. First studio album P recorded with a band. Seemed sometimes that P got lost in the mix, especially w RG and Tony int he foreground.

2. Beginning of over-produced P records: this started with LS and went up through Batman, GB and reached its pinnacle with D&P. Fans liked the stripped-back and/or quirky production of DM, PR, SOTT. The layers worked on LS but by D&P it just sounded slick and kinda false.

3. Commercial pop album - most of the pop fans had gradually abandoned P from'85 onwards. The hardcore that were left weren't really into the commercial sound. It looked and sounded like a cash-cow, which indeed it seems it was (and a good one!). It also seemed somewhat insincere (I love Gett Off, but it did seem like the shock value was just to sell whereas in the early years it seemed to come from real passion).

4. It was on the heels of GB. Fans had had to deal with a supoer low point with that flick and they needed some serious quality to get the faith back - they got that in terms of commercial success, but not artistic value.

5. P appeared, for the first time, to be following trends rather than leading them. This in particular refers to the Hip Hop stuff. I remember a friend who was a very casual P fan, challenge me about this. A few years before I had played him Dead On It to show how P was dissing bullshit rappers with no musical skills. My friend now came back and said: so how do you explain this.
BTW, although I felt this like others, I don't think the charge is quite fair. P had always led the way by merging different styles from the past and mixing it with whatever was popular. The thing is, he'd take a style that was topping the charts and do a far superior version showing how devoid of substance the others were. The problem with his hip hop dabblings is that they often seemed shallower than the other stuff on the charts (same with much of his recent R&B crap like BLAB).

6. It did so well. P was super-popular again and so for all of us who had been following him ina semi- cult or indie sort of way, we lost the exclusiveness. It's like REM fans who'll tell you they hate Out of Time and that it's their worst album - people who follow semi-alternative acts often can't stomach a hit album/ songs.

Bottom line, though: this is the only P album I no longer have a copy of (I have a boot of rehearsals and alternate versions). I love Gett Off and I really like W&A. But I don't really miss the CD. Funny thing is, this tour was the first time I saw P live (one of only two times), so I was rocking this material back then. But I think that it was just overkill.

Oh, and for me personally, the symbol album has all the good qualities of the D&P album without all the crap (even Tony doesn't bother me so much there), so that I think for a lot of us - when symbol came out, we could abandon D&P.

It's a lot like the relationship between Musicology and 3121 IMO. (And I didn't listen to PR for about a decade from '85-'95, honestly, not even once. Couldn't stomach it - but I would never have left it out of my collection!).
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Reply #8 posted 11/14/09 12:19pm

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It's actually a great album with some gems.
Willing and able is really also one of my favourites.
Good to hear someone younger is appreciating it even though the album is what 13 years old now? Good music never dies.
"Free URself, B the best that U can B, 3rd Apartment from the Sun, nothing left to fear" Prince Rogers Nelson - Forever in my Life -
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Reply #9 posted 11/14/09 12:23pm

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Bohemian67 said:

It's actually a great album with some gems.
Willing and able is really also one of my favourites.
Good to hear someone younger is appreciating it even though the album is what 13 years old now? Good music never dies.


Actually 17 years old going on 18 lol
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Reply #10 posted 11/14/09 12:26pm

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Yeah, and some of us are in our 40s and probably heard this when you were still a wee cute baby. razz
"Free URself, B the best that U can B, 3rd Apartment from the Sun, nothing left to fear" Prince Rogers Nelson - Forever in my Life -
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