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Van Halens" Jump" Vs Prince "Dirty Mind"

lots of similarity??....organ n rhythm

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Reply #1 posted 10/05/09 7:04am

CerpinTaxt

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I think I remember hearing that Eddie Van Halen told Daryl Hall that he bit the synth line from "Jump" directly from "Kiss On My List" Daryl was cool about the whole thing, and even kind of stoked. One of the greats!
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Reply #2 posted 10/05/09 7:22am

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Van Halen -Jump? Now there's a nightmareu!!
Urgg, vile in my opinion.
Give me Dirty mind any day.
Similarities? None whatsoever.
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Reply #3 posted 10/05/09 9:51am

ernestsewell

Yes there are similarities. I've played both on a piano. There are some similarities in the arrangement of the keyboards/synth parts. Nothing vocallyy though.
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Reply #4 posted 10/05/09 10:10am

Smittyrock70

Of course there r! I think I remember David Lee Roth mentioning how Eddie bit that 1 from P years ago. I mean let's face it. Back then in the early to mid 80's, almost all the top rock acts were influenced by P in 1 form or another. Stevie Nicks heard LRC for the 1st time in her car and nearly got in2 a car wreck
because she got in2 the groove. lol Then it inspired her 2 write a song and called in P 2 help compose and arrange it. Next thing "Stand Back" became 1 of her biggest solo hits. Phil Collins' "Sussudio" admittedly was taken directly fron "1999." In fact, on some of the earlier takes, Phil had to re-arrange certain parts because it sounded too much like P's song. I'm sure Ernest already knows this (sorry 2 insult ur intelligence). Just a little Princey fact 4 the younger and newer P fans who don't. Peace. cool
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Reply #5 posted 10/05/09 10:30am

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Thanks for enlightening me. I didn't even bother to sing the melody to jump. Now I realise that similarity.

I hated that song from the moment I heard/saw it and avoided it like the plague.
I find it SO simple! I could never compare it to the lyrics or funk in Dirty mind. Plus dirty mind has a much gentler approach to the ears. That van Halen guy is the epitome of bad noise to me. But then I am not, have never been and will never be a rocker. cool
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Reply #6 posted 10/05/09 3:37pm

thebanishedone

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both songs are good
but different
one is funk punk
one is pop
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Reply #7 posted 10/05/09 5:31pm

toots

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apples and oranges now...

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Smurf theme song-seriously how many fucking "La Las" can u fit into a dam song wall
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Reply #8 posted 10/05/09 5:53pm

emesem

Jump totally used dirty mind but a great classic tune nonetheless.
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Reply #9 posted 10/05/09 8:44pm

johnart

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OMG I never even thought about it.

Once more...bad fan. boxed
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Reply #10 posted 10/05/09 9:49pm

Nikademus

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toots said:

apples and oranges now...

lockdance



Not really, there ARE similarities.
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Reply #11 posted 10/05/09 11:29pm

CerpinTaxt

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Just because my prior comment seemed to be overlooked neutral :

http://en.wikipedia.org/w...on_My_List

"Kiss on My List" is a 1980 song recorded by Daryl Hall and John Oates. It was the third single from their album Voices, and became their second Billboard Hot 100 number-one single (after "Rich Girl" in 1977).

It was written by Janna Allen and Daryl Hall, and produced by Hall and Oates.

While two other songs from the album had returned the duo to chart activity, it was the success of "Kiss on My List" that confirmed the start of the duo's sustained run as one of American pop's top-selling acts, a run that lasted into 1989.

According to Daryl Hall, Eddie Van Halen copied the synth part of this song and used it for the song "Jump" by Van Halen.[1]

[1] http://mixonline.com/mag/...index.html
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Reply #12 posted 10/06/09 11:23am

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thebanishedone said:

both songs are good
but different
one is funk punk
one is pop


Surely Jump is pure rock???? Where on earth is the funk in that one?
But I refuse to go and listen nonetheless to find out.
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Reply #13 posted 10/06/09 12:55pm

thebanishedone

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no jump isn't rock
it's pure pop
if it was rock it would never be as big hit
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Reply #14 posted 10/06/09 2:27pm

toots

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Nikademus said:

toots said:

apples and oranges now...

lockdance



Not really, there ARE similarities.

Nik alot of 80's songs sounded the same back then nod Now technology has further advanced that. I remember when practically every song had a synth sound to it. That was only the beginning IMHO.
Smurf theme song-seriously how many fucking "La Las" can u fit into a dam song wall
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Reply #15 posted 10/06/09 6:54pm

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toots said:

Nikademus said:




Not really, there ARE similarities.

Nik alot of 80's songs sounded the same back then nod Now technology has further advanced that. I remember when practically every song had a synth sound to it. That was only the beginning IMHO.


The flat out rhythm and chord patterns are damn near identical in the synth hooks. The vocals are totally different and the overall arrangement is different, but if you did a mashup of those synth parts, it'd be an almost-mirror image.
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Reply #16 posted 10/06/09 10:20pm

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ernestsewell said:

toots said:


Nik alot of 80's songs sounded the same back then nod Now technology has further advanced that. I remember when practically every song had a synth sound to it. That was only the beginning IMHO.


The flat out rhythm and chord patterns are damn near identical in the synth hooks. The vocals are totally different and the overall arrangement is different, but if you did a mashup of those synth parts, it'd be an almost-mirror image.


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Reply #17 posted 10/07/09 3:46pm

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I agree with you both Nik and ernest but Im only saying it from my memory and that was 25 years ago on how music sounded the same (from a kids view/point). hell Im doing good to keep up with todays music at times im getting grandpa
Smurf theme song-seriously how many fucking "La Las" can u fit into a dam song wall
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Reply #18 posted 10/08/09 8:18am

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If u can play keyboards as good as me
here

http://www.youtube.com/wa...annel_page

u will be able to hear the similarities
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