susanscourt said:

What is the basis to deduce all this from?

BTW, `girls just wanna have fun` the song goes, so what is new?

udo said:

my message was only for shelbey

susanscourt said:

Does that really matter? I don't think so.
The question still stands.
What is the basis to deduce all this from?

susanscourt said:

Then send her an orgnote instead of posting it in a forum where everyone is free to respond.

Serena said:

Of course everyone is free to respond, just as I can leave a nice note for her. It really was that simple. The thing with this posting is you can't interpret how a person response sounds through writing, it definately wasn't aggressive, just not wanting to take it any further. I hope that explains it further.

susanscourt said:

Not really, but whatever. If you want her to see your message, then send it to her, not the group. Unless she's watching this thread to read our thoughts, even though she 'doesn't care what we think'.

I think Shelbey need so get her booty in here and explain her side of the story. Clear her name, so to speak.

She has nothing to clear. She came, she saw, she conquered.

Bohemian67 said:

Bohemian67 said:

You tell them sis!
Shelbey, don't bother with all those haters. I'm glad for you that they/Prince himself sent you this video and this nice shirt. And if people can't appreciate you sharing it with them, let them choke in their own jealousy.

Serena said:

co-

Bohemian67 said:

She placed illegal content online.
She was not introduced as offical messenger and used the public carriers like yout00b to get her material into the world.
Prince would have used his own site to spread the news.

(yes, should, and still everybody could have seen the vids)

udo said:

Udo is just angry that Prince didn't personally consult him regarding his future marketing strategies beforehand.


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FunkyStrange said:

You fail to even notice the core truths in my statements.
You have 'throw around a vid' and 'proper distribution'.
You guess what P did, if he really allowed this to happen.
No try to imagine what could have occurred if he use whatever Prince-website to release the thingie. It could have drawn at least some new interest.
But he appears to fail to even consider that opportunity.

Ok Udo - if you really want me to address your ridiculous ideas one by one.



"She placed illegal content online." - If it was authorised by Prince then it is not illegal. Do you know for a fact it has not been approved by Prince ? Do you ? Answer - No you do not. Next.

"She was not introduced as offical messenger and used the public carriers like yout00b to get her material into the world." - Has Dr Funkenberry been introduced as an 'official messenger' of Prince material ? Not that I'm aware of. I don't see you complaining abut any material released by that website.

"Prince would have used his own site to spread the news." - What evidence do you have to support that ? The rehearsal track was released by Dr Funkenberry - do you think that is illegal content as well, not authorised by Prince ?

"You have 'throw around a vid' and 'proper distribution'." Prince can market himself anyway he likes, For years he has been challenging the way the industry works - why is this new way to do something so offensive to you ? Again, would you call Dr Funkenberry 'proper distribution' ?

"You guess what P did, if he really allowed this to happen." - Do you honestly believe a professionally shot video clip from a possible future DVD of Prince was able to be leaked and put up on youtube and left there for almost 2 weeks ? If you believe that to be true you are more delusional than I already believe. If it was unauthorised it would have been taken down within minutes and hours not still there 2 weeks later. Again I ask you, do you know for fact that Prince has NOT authorised this release ?

"No try to imagine what could have occurred if he use whatever Prince-website to release the thingie. It could have drawn at least some new interest. But he appears to fail to even consider that opportunity." - Do really expect Prince has failed to consider putting these tracks on Lotus flower ? Do you think he really is that stupid ? It has obviously been done this way for a reason. Just because you don't know the reason why - doesn't mean you can deduce he is obviously stupid and totally oblivious to what is going on with his own material.


So again Udo - you seem more angry and disappointed with Prince than anything to do with Shelbey - who has done nothing more than bring you some exclusive footage which nobody here has seen before, yet all you can do is complain about it.


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shelbey said:

It's great that more material, videos, rehearsal audio etc are released in the first place.

I'm still hoping Prince will do something more with the Lotusflow3r site in terms of adding more video, audio, pre-releases of TICKETS etc. but if he chooses to release a short video or several videos (maybe as a teaser for an upcoming DVD?!) through someones youtube account why not just enjoy the high quality, multiple angel shot video and the amazing performance?!

Peace & Love

FunkyStrange said:

IF, yes. It wasn't openly done so.
It might have been a leak somewhere, do you know?
So I assume on the safe side.


DrFB also was not officially announced, etc, so that does not make it right.
DrFB has teh advantage of being longer in the known, he has a fairly nice trackrecord.


You cannot claim neither. You can only assume. And THAT is the catch.
Prince does no use proper channels, Prince keeps you guessing. There speaks no thought out media strategy. It could be sheer amateurism.


Nope.
DrfB may be credible but did you see what other gossip he publishes?
And 'the new way', you are assumeing it is a choice to do it so, fits in with teh other amateurism we notice like the T-shirt debacle, the lack of updates to a certain website, etc.


That is what you assume. What other P-lawsuit-action or threats did you notice lately?
Does he still have his 'websheriff' on standby?
Did you receive copies of the cease and desist from that girl?
Yes, it might give credibility but there is no absolute truth there.


Again, I think he has failed.
As I said, there is no clear media strategy.
You can make it look like I insult him, but it is about his actions.
If you look at the whole situation, he has a website that he doesn't use anymore. Yes, that one. He has news leaked by this doctor dude.
Then he has this girl which does an intro to a vid. Unusual, so how do we put this on the web?
Of course it is not done to revive that website (yes lf.com), we have no money or time to quickly whip something up, so we just do it cheaply and quickly.

Is that the strategy?


I amy seem that, yes, but is it reality?
It is my wording, my energy etc about this subject.
I do think I made my point.
And no, P does not need me as an adviser. He can think of all this by himself.
(no insult, even praise)
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squirrelgrease said:

Why should she do that, when she can do this:

sit back and just watch all whingebums here eat their own flesh...

Oh udo

I really can't be bothered arguing with a brick wall.

FunkyStrange said:

You mean you do see a strategy?
Can you please explain it to us?

Or do you just mean you like the way he places his media and news online? I.e.: you don't really care?

udo said:

You really need to choose a topic and stick to it.

FunkyStrange said:

Are you sure you mean this?
Are you implying you don't understand the coherence between 'we are not sure it is an illegal leak but we give it the benefit of the doubt because she looks nice, the video looks so good, whatever' and 'prince lets his news and media seep through various unofficial outlets'; or the difference between 'prince appears to have no media strategy at all' and 'prince really uses his websites to get the news into the world'?

As I wrote: we have no absolute truth about the source of the stuff, the source of the news, etc. There is no plan.

I asked you to explain what I might have missed but you opted to avoid answering.
Nothing hostile here or there, I might still buy you a beer in the appropriate place, but you must agree that how stuff goes really is weird or explain me.

Has anyone noticed that a SECOND SHOW performance of "I Love U, But..." has been posted on line?

Same great quality, but I prefer the first performance in terms of singing and arrangement...

Anyone else know about this?

Thanks in advance.

daPrettyman said:

I hate that I didn't get 2 see this,maybe they will show it again...

daPrettyman said:

JOYJOY said:

Employee/Model/PR (My opinion--yet to be proven as fact)


I doubt that Prince would give any fan some videos..(No matter how attractive he finds them..)

The videos all seemed a bit "processed-PR" to be fan videos. Telling most Youtubers (to be excited) about a concert in France? C'Mon

I've met some strong female fans of Prince's.. They would want him to tour where they are (in the U.S.).

These women covet him, and I doubt that they would be thrilled to tell The French that Prince will be performing there instead of their own hometown (Atlanta, GA or anywhere else in The U.S.).

Ain't nobody going on a Viral-PR Campaign for P without being paid, or some connection to Prince.

YHWH is Elohim and Yahsohua is King
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