laurarichardson said: Milty said: a hit at entry 81?
----- What are you talking about the song is in the low 20's on the RnB chart as of today. Some of you are so negative your willing to make shit up. Considering the lack of payola and big label behind him he is actually doing pretty good some of you need to get your head out of your asses about what really gets a song on the radio. Get our head out of our.....ok, you pull - I'll push. Tell us what REALLY gets a song on the radio? My point was/is: I don't feel that the quality of his output is the reason why he's not on the radio. IMO, he's still making hits. Corporate playlist are a reality and they dictate what we hear and don’t hear on the radio. Respire and relax a little ‘cause I’m not dogging Prince. It’s not a level playing field in the "music game" for independent artist which makes it harder for some of the great talents in music to be heard by the masses. [Edited 9/11/09 9:24am] Who ever said Prince has lost it - has lost it. The Kid's still got game! | |
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johnart said: nurseV said: Jay-Z and Kels have more than Prince? That just ain't right WTH
BIG TIME WTH! Those "entries" must include guest appearances and guest raps. There is no way that Jay Z and Kelly have that many hit singles. They barely have twenty-five albums between the two of them. | |
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nurseV said: Jay-Z and Kels have more than Prince? That just ain't right WTH
Although I listen to both of them, they're music caters to a younger crowd which is controlling the industry IMO. | |
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renfield said: It's #81 on Billboard's main R&B chart, and in the 20s on URBAN AC, a separate format/chart that caters to older listeners. No one made anything up.
That article is a week old now, are there any second week chart numbers yet? | |
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#92 on Billboard's main R&B chart, and #26 on Urban AC | |
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Mmmmmm!!! Truly Angelic!
PRINCE: PReserving the INtegrity of the CElestial >>>SOUND<<< So tell me, Sweet One, who would you like to sing you this serenade when you accept the award for this masterful composition? [Edited 9/10/09 21:07pm] | |
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Huh? When was this announced as a single? Feel free to join in the Prince Album Poll 2018! Let'a celebrate his legacy by counting down the most beloved Prince albums, as decided by you! | |
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laurarichardson said: Milty said: a hit at entry 81?
----- What are you talking about the song is in the low 20's on the RnB chart as of today. Some of you are so negative your willing to make shit up. Considering the lack of payola and big label behind him he is actually doing pretty good some of you need to get your head out of your asses about what really gets a song on the radio. the very first post says it enterd the chart at 81 and called it a hit. | |
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Milty said: laurarichardson said: ----- What are you talking about the song is in the low 20's on the RnB chart as of today. Some of you are so negative your willing to make shit up. Considering the lack of payola and big label behind him he is actually doing pretty good some of you need to get your head out of your asses about what really gets a song on the radio. the very first post says it enterd the chart at 81 and called it a hit. ----- But the song as moved up since that first post and it looks like it is a hit now. Jesus talk about being picky. Did you expect the song to enter at #1 on the pop chart. | |
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Xtraordinary said: laurarichardson said: ----- What are you talking about the song is in the low 20's on the RnB chart as of today. Some of you are so negative your willing to make shit up. Considering the lack of payola and big label behind him he is actually doing pretty good some of you need to get your head out of your asses about what really gets a song on the radio. Get our head out of our.....ok, you pull - I'll push. Tell us what REALLY gets a song on the radio? My point was/is: I don't feel that the quality of his output is the reason why he's not on the radio. IMO, he's still making hits. Corporate playlist are a reality and they dictate what we hear and don’t hear on the radio. Respire and relax a little ‘cause I’m not dogging Prince. It’s not a level playing field in the "music game" for independent artist which makes it harder for some of the great talents in music to be heard by the masses. [Edited 9/11/09 9:24am] ----- What was the fucking point of this post? If you are aware of what is going on great it is obvious that others on this board are not. My comments are directed at those people. | |
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newpower99 said: That's good to see. Thanks. They just played it on XM a minute ago. | |
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Imago said: Valentina would have been a better R&B single. It's not as cookie cutter sounding as 'Better With Time' which to me is just a terrible choice for a single.
Hell, even COlonized Mind had an old school 'Commodores/Earth, Wind & Fire' vibe to it that was more deserving of being a single. Prince NEEDS someone else to pick his singles. who in the hell is going to play Colonized Mind Some of you need to stop acting like Prince is still 25. Do you see Better With Time charting here quickly. This is the only format that even plays his music. Call My Name, Future Baby Mama anyone? Dance... Let me see you dance | |
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Alexandernvrmind said: Imago said: Valentina would have been a better R&B single. It's not as cookie cutter sounding as 'Better With Time' which to me is just a terrible choice for a single.
Hell, even COlonized Mind had an old school 'Commodores/Earth, Wind & Fire' vibe to it that was more deserving of being a single. Prince NEEDS someone else to pick his singles. who in the hell is going to play Colonized Mind Some of you need to stop acting like Prince is still 25. Do you see Better With Time charting here quickly. This is the only format that even plays his music. Call My Name, Future Baby Mama anyone? True. True. But he may want 2 give Dance 4 Me a shot on the Club/Dance charts (they have shown P some luv too) here in the US as well. From what I understand the remix is doing quite well in France. | |
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Alexandernvrmind said: Imago said: Valentina would have been a better R&B single. It's not as cookie cutter sounding as 'Better With Time' which to me is just a terrible choice for a single.
Hell, even COlonized Mind had an old school 'Commodores/Earth, Wind & Fire' vibe to it that was more deserving of being a single. Prince NEEDS someone else to pick his singles. who in the hell is going to play Colonized Mind Some of you need to stop acting like Prince is still 25. Do you see Better With Time charting here quickly. This is the only format that even plays his music. Call My Name, Future Baby Mama anyone? ----- Some people on this board do think P is still 25 and this is the 1980's. He does great on the A/C RnB chart and he smart to put out singles that are geared toward that audience. In addtion, you can always see who really hates RnB music when he has success on the RnB charts. [Edited 9/18/09 7:31am] | |
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Any place on the charts these days is a good thing. Go Prince! Prince did an interview with a woman at Record World. They talked about whatever, then he asked her: "Does your pubic hair go up to your navel?" At that moment, we thought maybe we shouldn't encourage him to do interviews. | |
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laurarichardson said: Alexandernvrmind said: who in the hell is going to play Colonized Mind Some of you need to stop acting like Prince is still 25. Do you see Better With Time charting here quickly. This is the only format that even plays his music. Call My Name, Future Baby Mama anyone? ----- Some people on this board do thing P is still 25 and this is the 1980's. He does great on the A/C RnB chart and he smart to put out singles that are geared toward that audience. In addtion, you can always see who really hates RnB music when he has success on the RnB charts. Does anyone know if P has ever explored Satellite radio? Springsteen and other "older" artists have there own channel. There is a lot of marketing potential. | |
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renfield said: laurarichardson said: ----- What are you talking about the song is in the low 20's on the RnB chart as of today. Some of you are so negative your willing to make shit up. Considering the lack of payola and big label behind him he is actually doing pretty good some of you need to get your head out of your asses about what really gets a song on the radio. Dial it down a bit and re-read...It's #81 on Billboard's main R&B chart, and in the 20s on URBAN AC, a separate format/chart that caters to older listeners. No one made anything up. But other than that I agree that he's doing pretty well. Good to see he can still chart at all. ----- No people are actually doing both. Making up shit because they do not know anything about the Urban AC chart at all and pretending that the rise of the song on any chart other than the POP chart is irrelevent. | |
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laurarichardson said: Milty said: the very first post says it enterd the chart at 81 and called it a hit. ----- But the song as moved up since that first post and it looks like it is a hit now. Jesus talk about being picky. Did you expect the song to enter at #1 on the pop chart. all i'm saying is that an entry at 81 is not a hit. | |
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Milty said: laurarichardson said: ----- But the song as moved up since that first post and it looks like it is a hit now. Jesus talk about being picky. Did you expect the song to enter at #1 on the pop chart. all i'm saying is that an entry at 81 is not a hit. 26 on urban A/C is. Especially for someone without a major label. I actually like this song out of the bunch...if the percussion was turned down a lot. But I'm glad he charted. I'd be happy if he hit number one! Still waaaay better than most junk you hear. | |
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Hot R&B/Hip-hop Songs #100
http://www.billboard.biz/...-Hop+Songs Hot Adult R&B Airplay #26 http://www.billboard.biz/...6B+Airplay [Edited 9/24/09 16:27pm] | |
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Xtraordinary said: Better With Time was a good choice for a single considering it's market. It's the slow R&B cuts that seem to register for Prince these days so why not stick with what works?
I haven't heard it on the radio yet but I'm glad to see it's doing well. It's a cool tune and should be enjoyed by the masses. I heard it here in LA on the radio two weeks ago on 102.3 KJLH. The DJ really liked it. This station always plays some of Prince newer songs like "Call my name" & the cut "Turn me Loose". Also Stevie Wonder owns this station. Maybe that is the key. Artist buying there own radio stations..... will ALWAYS think of like a "ACT OF GOD"! N another realm. mean of all people who might of been aliens or angels.if found out that wasn't of this earth, would not have been that surprised. R.I.P. | |
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Zannaloaf said: Milty said: all i'm saying is that an entry at 81 is not a hit. 26 on urban A/C is. Especially for someone without a major label. I actually like this song out of the bunch...if the percussion was turned down a lot. But I'm glad he charted. I'd be happy if he hit number one! Still waaaay better than most junk you hear. #26 on a niche within a niche isn't a hit (it actually peaked at #22 on the running 7 day chart and is falling). http://www.mediabase.com/...ar=y&dpt=n perhaps it would do better if he actually promoted it. Instead the promotion since it's release has been for "Dance 4 Me", "Why You Wanna Treat me so bad", and "I Love U, But I Don't Trust U Anymore". I'm not sure if it was ever determined if that last one came from Prince or not. I'm not sure Better With Time was even released to go for a hit, it may simply be setting up another grammy nomination. This whole album has had the oddest promotion. I don't think the Chocolate Box video was ever shown anywhere besides the lotus web site (did target play it in the stores). I never heard about the song being played on radio despite it apparently being the first single from a #2 selling album. Then nothing at all for months until out of nowhere "Better With Time" gets released to radio, only to have no promotion at all what the song that gets promoted - Dance 4 Me - doesn't get any airplay. | |
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alandail said: Zannaloaf said: 26 on urban A/C is. Especially for someone without a major label. I actually like this song out of the bunch...if the percussion was turned down a lot. But I'm glad he charted. I'd be happy if he hit number one! Still waaaay better than most junk you hear. #26 on a niche within a niche isn't a hit (it actually peaked at #22 on the running 7 day chart and is falling). http://www.mediabase.com/...ar=y&dpt=n perhaps it would do better if he actually promoted it. Instead the promotion since it's release has been for "Dance 4 Me", "Why You Wanna Treat me so bad", and "I Love U, But I Don't Trust U Anymore". I'm not sure if it was ever determined if that last one came from Prince or not. I'm not sure Better With Time was even released to go for a hit, it may simply be setting up another grammy nomination. This whole album has had the oddest promotion. I don't think the Chocolate Box video was ever shown anywhere besides the lotus web site (did target play it in the stores). I never heard about the song being played on radio despite it apparently being the first single from a #2 selling album. Then nothing at all for months until out of nowhere "Better With Time" gets released to radio, only to have no promotion at all what the song that gets promoted - Dance 4 Me - doesn't get any airplay. Slight Correction - Dance 4 Me was released and promoted ONLY in France. | |
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Sorry if this is a late realisation for me but I think this song is about Mayte although I am an old romantic lol | |
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I think there are different ways to look at this. First, I have to sadly agree that peaking at #22 on Urban AC radio does not constitute a hit. Just my opinion, but you really need to talk about getting into the top 15 for that. The 20's on the chart is usually a key spot for Prince over the past decade. If he gets over it then he usually has a hit; if not, then not so much. Satisfied, BL&B, and now apparently BWT all maxed out at about the same spot on the chart. However, other songs, such as Musicology (#8), Call My Name (#1), The Greatest Romance (#8), and Future Baby Mama (#6) made it past this range and were hits that were heard by millions and critically acclaimed. That doesn't mean that BWT won't regroup, but it is what it is. It just goes to show that while Urban AC stations will play Prince, it doesn't guarantee him a hit. Each song is received differently. I'm sure he knows this.
Now, it is my hope that he keeps with the ballads and follows up with Ur Gonna C Me. Use BWT to remind people/radio that he's still here and with new material, and follow it up with this radio friendly track. | |
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audience1 said: I think there are different ways to look at this. First, I have to sadly agree that peaking at #22 on Urban AC radio does not constitute a hit. Just my opinion, but you really need to talk about getting into the top 15 for that. The 20's on the chart is usually a key spot for Prince over the past decade. If he gets over it then he usually has a hit; if not, then not so much. Satisfied, BL&B, and now apparently BWT all maxed out at about the same spot on the chart. However, other songs, such as Musicology (#8), Call My Name (#1), The Greatest Romance (#8), and Future Baby Mama (#6) made it past this range and were hits that were heard by millions and critically acclaimed. That doesn't mean that BWT won't regroup, but it is what it is. It just goes to show that while Urban AC stations will play Prince, it doesn't guarantee him a hit. Each song is received differently. I'm sure he knows this.
Now, it is my hope that he keeps with the ballads and follows up with Ur Gonna C Me. Use BWT to remind people/radio that he's still here and with new material, and follow it up with this radio friendly track. ----- Sorry it a song makes it into the top 40 on any chart it is a hit. At P's age and being an independent record it is a good sign that he can even get airplay. | |
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asg said: Rock and Roll Hall of Famer Prince notches his 62nd hit on R&B/Hip-Hop Songs, as "Better With Time" begins at No. 81. Since he first arrived with "Soft and Wet" on the July 29, 1978 chart, only Jay-Z (90) and R. Kelly (79) have amassed more entries. On Adult R&B (viewable at billboard.biz), Prince's latest debuts at No. 27, his highest start since "Betcha By Golly Wow!" entered at No. 18 in 1996 ..
I love this song,prince looks better with time. ♥ Feeling Purple Rain...Don't hold on 2 the pain, hold on 2 the memories ♥
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