independent and unofficial
Prince fan community
Welcome! Sign up or enter username and password to remember me
Forum jump
Forums > Prince: Music and More > AND ANOTHER THING - Prince as a guitarist
« Previous topic  Next topic »
Page 3 of 3 <123
  New topic   Printable     (Log in to 'subscribe' to this topic)
Reply #60 posted 08/24/09 7:01pm

Alasseon

avatar

FrankSerpico said:

I'll steer clear of the Hendrix debate and try to divert your attention to Henry Garza. I went to see Los Lonely Boys last weekend and their lead guitarist tore it to shreds. And then tore the shreds to shreds.

I'm a big Stevie Ray fan. Henry channels SRV, but adds some Texican influence, some pop, some rock and a lot of blues. At one point, he sounded like Clapton. At other times, very SRV-like. I was really, really impressed. His brothers are superb musicians, as well.

If you're not familiar with LLB, check out www.loslonelyboys.com, click on the "music" link and listen to their cover of Spencer Davis Group's "I'm a Man." Good place to start.


I've been saying that for years. Henry Garza is one of the best guitarists of his generation. His brothers are also monsters on their instruments.

In this celebrity obsessed age, no one will hear of Los Lonely Boys unless they date some reality "stars" or do something "outrageous" to get put on a reality show.

It's a shame that more people know Lindsey Lohan and Company before they would recognize the Garza boys.
batman guitar

Some people tell me I've got great legs...
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #61 posted 08/24/09 7:14pm

babynoz

FrankSerpico said:

I'll steer clear of the Hendrix debate and try to divert your attention to Henry Garza. I went to see Los Lonely Boys last weekend and their lead guitarist tore it to shreds. And then tore the shreds to shreds.

I'm a big Stevie Ray fan. Henry channels SRV, but adds some Texican influence, some pop, some rock and a lot of blues. At one point, he sounded like Clapton. At other times, very SRV-like. I was really, really impressed. His brothers are superb musicians, as well.

If you're not familiar with LLB, check out www.loslonelyboys.com, click on the "music" link and listen to their cover of Spencer Davis Group's "I'm a Man." Good place to start.



The link doesn't work, but I love Henry Garza! Saw LLB with Santana on my bday in '07...what a show! That kid ain't no joke. nod

The Prince vs Jimi thing comes up every couple of months like clockwork and I'm glad it's on a message board 'cause if these folks were in the same room having this convo I swear they would come to blows over it. lol

Bottom line, everybody has their favorite for whatever reason. Hell, if I got offended every time somebody turned up their nose at Prince I'd be doing a lot of fighting.

I like many guitarist for different reasons, for example I love Jimi's Band of Gypsies work much more than his other stuff. I also love SRV, Isley, Hazel, Clapton, etc...Princey just happens to be my favorite.

There's even times when it all comes down to nothing more than what mood I'm in.

The difference is that I realize that my preference doesn't make it the law of the land nor does it make him the best.

I'm just happy to have a music thread for a change instead of the usual "what kind of dental floss does Prince use?" type of drivel. lol
Prince, in you I found a kindred spirit...Rest In Paradise.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #62 posted 08/27/09 10:21pm

ladychel61

avatar

blackguitaristz said:

ladychel61 said:


My favorite good guitar player's are...Prince,Larry Graham,Michael Hampton(kid funkedellic) and Bootsy Collins.Back in the day they where the best guitar headbang music nod fro nod dancing jig guitar prince

Good picks...What do u think about Eddie Hazel and Ernie Isley?

I don't know who they are... hmmmI'm sure they were great... headbang
♥ Feeling Purple Rain...Don't hold on 2 the pain, hold on 2 the memories ♥
My heart will go on...Celine Dion
I will always love you...Whitney Houston
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #63 posted 08/28/09 12:22am

blackguitarist
z

avatar

ladychel61 said:

blackguitaristz said:


Good picks...What do u think about Eddie Hazel and Ernie Isley?

I don't know who they are... hmmmI'm sure they were great... headbang

biggrin Sure u do lady61. Eddie Hazel was the original lead guitarist in Funkadelic. And Ernie Isley was the guitarist from The Isley Brothers..
SynthiaRose said "I'm in love with blackguitaristz. Especially when he talks about Hendrix."
nammie "What BGZ says I believe. I have the biggest crush on him."
http://ccoshea19.googlepa...ssanctuary
http://ccoshea19.googlepages.com
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #64 posted 08/28/09 1:02am

iloveannie

Because Hendrix did what no one else had even thought possible or imagined. He had the whole package. Imitation is one thing but innovation is another altogether.

Who did Hendrix sound like? It's a simple question that can be asked of any guitarist. The answer to Hendrix though is unique in the that it is no one.

I'm not going to play down our purple hero as sounding like Santana at times or purely playing with lots of distortion and pentatonic licks as that would be juvenile. Prince has carved his own sound and any suggestion that Lotusflow3r contained many moments that were blatant Hendrix would be puerile. I mean, let's be honest, Colonised Mind's rhythm work is nothing like Hendrix in any way, shape or form and Wall of Berlin is so not Hendrix and Mitch Mitchell from 3:52 till fade-out.

It's just plain silly to compare the two. And as for opinion polls? Well anybody that actually reads them and then gets upset enough to post obviously has very little to do or is perhaps a tad fanatical (blinkered) about their chosen list. Generally it's the behaviour of a younger person. And that's not a bad thing as we were all kids once and had our (limited comprehension and experience) opinions on things. I remember when I was a hot-headed youngster... and so on wink

Hey sgmusic, it's good that you feel so strongly about Prince's lack of recognition as a guitarist but you really need to ask yourself, "Does it really matter?" It's only music not the AIDS epidemic in the Third World (simple cure: keep your cock in your pants dickhead) smile
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #65 posted 08/28/09 3:13am

dreamshaman32

avatar

on some threads he is questioned as a funkster, compared to Clinton and Brown
Some threads questioned as a showman and compared to Rick James, did he bite?
Some threads his dancing is compared against Michael Jackson, who is better? lol
Is he a complete songwriter ala Stevie Wonder or Dylan? LOL
Is he a better guitarist than Hendrix?,

What does all of this "SAY". Simply put, he is the most musically complete artist to ever record, none of the above mentioned artist can legitimately be compared across genres and time spans, only Prince. No one will ever ask if Hendrix was a great dancer or Micheal a true Funkateer, only Prince and that's probably all we really need to know.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #66 posted 08/28/09 3:15am

dreamshaman32

avatar

What about Princes "Jazz" is it real Jazz? what do jazzmen think ? LOL
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #67 posted 08/28/09 8:36am

Graycap23

dreamshaman32 said:

on some threads he is questioned as a funkster, compared to Clinton and Brown
Some threads questioned as a showman and compared to Rick James, did he bite?
Some threads his dancing is compared against Michael Jackson, who is better? lol
Is he a complete songwriter ala Stevie Wonder or Dylan? LOL
Is he a better guitarist than Hendrix?,

What does all of this "SAY". Simply put, he is the most musically complete artist to ever record, none of the above mentioned artist can legitimately be compared across genres and time spans, only Prince. No one will ever ask if Hendrix was a great dancer or Micheal a true Funkateer, only Prince and that's probably all we really need to know.

Print and KEEP!
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #68 posted 08/28/09 9:38am

sgmusic

avatar

iloveannie said:

Because Hendrix did what no one else had even thought possible or imagined. He had the whole package. Imitation is one thing but innovation is another altogether.

Who did Hendrix sound like? It's a simple question that can be asked of any guitarist. The answer to Hendrix though is unique in the that it is no one.

I'm not going to play down our purple hero as sounding like Santana at times or purely playing with lots of distortion and pentatonic licks as that would be juvenile. Prince has carved his own sound and any suggestion that Lotusflow3r contained many moments that were blatant Hendrix would be puerile. I mean, let's be honest, Colonised Mind's rhythm work is nothing like Hendrix in any way, shape or form and Wall of Berlin is so not Hendrix and Mitch Mitchell from 3:52 till fade-out.

It's just plain silly to compare the two. And as for opinion polls? Well anybody that actually reads them and then gets upset enough to post obviously has very little to do or is perhaps a tad fanatical (blinkered) about their chosen list. Generally it's the behaviour of a younger person. And that's not a bad thing as we were all kids once and had our (limited comprehension and experience) opinions on things. I remember when I was a hot-headed youngster... and so on wink

Hey sgmusic, it's good that you feel so strongly about Prince's lack of recognition as a guitarist but you really need to ask yourself, "Does it really matter?" It's only music not the AIDS epidemic in the Third World (simple cure: keep your cock in your pants dickhead) smile



It matters in as much as this whole forum matters. Does your opinion really matter? Does anyone's? The whole point of a forum is to post opinion. What I love is the fact that someone is posting a reply to a topic and then making a point to say that it doesn't matter. If it doesn't matter why post a reply? simple cure: skip to the next fucking thread. I usually try not to post personal stabs at folks because I don't know you from a damn monkey on the moon. But your input is not required.
"If you wanted to buy a Sam Cooke album, where would you go?"
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #69 posted 08/28/09 10:29am

joelmarable

prince is great on guitar. but jimi concert was on the other night on music channel on direct tv.274 i think.this mother f----- was playing the damn song with his teeth.i mean literally, the whole damn song then between his legs.then get this.behind his back,looking from the front it look like he just had his hands behind his back.then he turned it upside down.my wife who is not into guitar playing stood there with her mouth open.we both were speechless.on top of that it sound better than people playing the right way.ive seen prince do a few things but my god jimi must have come out the wound with this shit strapped around his neck.beleve it.
stickman
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #70 posted 08/28/09 10:30am

joelmarable

sorry.WOMB
stickman
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #71 posted 08/28/09 11:28am

thebanishedone

avatar

Jimi hated the fact people were going to see his concert only to hear him do acrobatics with guitar
and he never played guitar with his teeth.
its a legatto tehique
he played with only fingers and mimicked that he played with teeth.
Ernie plays with teeth for real
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #72 posted 08/28/09 11:53am

joelmarable

thebanishedone said:

Jimi hated the fact people were going to see his concert only to hear him do acrobatics with guitar
and he never played guitar with his teeth.
its a legatto tehique
he played with only fingers and mimicked that he played with teeth.
Ernie plays with teeth for real

teeth brother hands were hands were not playing guitar.i taped it and watch it all the time. hands did not play it.he did it with his teeth.behind his neck and back and betweeen his legs dude.u must not have seen it.
stickman
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #73 posted 08/28/09 7:20pm

thebanishedone

avatar

He played with right hand while he was "playing with teeth"
what he did with his right hand is leggato tehnique
he played all the notes without picking .
and he mimicked playing with teeth
the tehnique Jimi used is common in a world
of guitar players.
Jimi didn't play really with his teeth,
but there are guitar players who actually can play
like Ernie Isley
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #74 posted 08/28/09 7:22pm

thebanishedone

avatar

on Fury Snl you can hear Prince's fast legato runs on guitar.
thats the same tehnique
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #75 posted 08/29/09 4:56am

richierich

avatar

It does appear at times as though Hendrix wins these guitar polls by default but I think its fair to say he ticks alot of boxes for players and non players alike.
Many people have other favourites but Hendrix always seems to figure high on peoples personal lists because he has a lot of great guitar moments.

I love Prince and think he is a great guitarist but the reason why Hendrix is likely more well received as a guitarist is because....

his music is more guitar orientated
he brought more originality guitar wise
he has more "great" riffs
and he is known as a guitarist primarily

Strangely many still don't know Prince is the player he is,I think if he had of been out there as a guitarist like he is now in his mainstream peak things may be different,I mean ye he had Purple Rain and Lets Go Crazy but perhaps with the vids being from the film maybe people think its acting.

But guitar isn't a sport and whichever ever guitarist you like best is best to you so IMO opinion no need to rag on others.
[Edited 8/29/09 4:57am]
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #76 posted 08/29/09 5:34am

SPYZFAN1

Sorry but I have to agree with joelmarable. I'm pretty sure Jimi did play with his teeth in certain moments. The b/w clip of Jimi playing the "Hey Joe" solo (from the Marquee-67) is teeth. The close ups prove that.

His solo at the end of "Purple Haze" from "Jimi Plays Berkeley" is teeth too. You can also hear how his guitar tone changed while playing with his teeth.

I have a Guitar Player interview where Jimi joked and said 'If guitar players down south didn't play with their teeth, they would get shot'.

King Curtis also said that Jimi had big, strong teeth and had a tongue bigger than Gene Simmons. He said during live shows (when Jimi was his sideman) he would yell "EAT IT!" and Jimi would go to town.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #77 posted 08/29/09 7:43am

Stratus

7salles said:

It´s not fair com compare prince technical skills with Hendrix´s. Prince had the time to be influenced by lots of different players, by modern rock like Van Halen, Satriani, and he was more exposed to jazz, latin among other things.. Hendrix died young and lived in a period that it was very difficult be exposed to what was going on around the world.. And it is maybe one of the reasons that he was so great and so unmatched, he was not overflooded by other people institutional playing, he never played as a video guitar lesson guy, he lived the soul and played the soul. He will be forever the ultimate guitar God, the most important guitar player of the past and of the future.


Amazingly said smile
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #78 posted 08/29/09 1:01pm

COMPUTERBLUE19
84

avatar

Interesting posts....

Prince guitar playing is top notch and he weaves a variety of styles and creates a distinctly "Prince" sound. By no means am I a musician, but as a music lover, you can always appreciate a man that has so much talent to play any style almost at will. Prince may not get the respect he deserves because he is a musical chameleon and despite always being a guitar player, the general music public views him as a pop artist known for pop songs. If they dig deeper, they would see he goes across the board. ALthough I am a fan of both, I don't know many guitarists that say Prince is an influence as a guitar player.

IMO, the reason Hendrix comes across at number one on all these polls is because before him, no one did what he did and afterwards, although people have refined his sound, his influence is still very much seen in guitar players. He was a rock guitarist inspired by the blues who took rock guitar to places it never went before. HIs experimentation in the studio (as mentioned by others), allowed for his sound to still be revolutionary almost 40 years since his death.
"Old man's gotta be the old man. Fish has got to be the fish."
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #79 posted 08/29/09 1:38pm

kenlacam

All in all, though, Jimi was a GREAT guitarist.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #80 posted 08/29/09 4:54pm

thebanishedone

avatar

When you play guitar solo on a rock song
and you don't add a
little bit of Hendrix .....then there is no
good guitar solo,no matter how much
you try...
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #81 posted 08/30/09 8:38am

iloveannie

thebanishedone said:

When you play guitar solo on a rock song
and you don't add a
little bit of Hendrix .....then there is no
good guitar solo,no matter how much
you try...


This may be the first time I agree with you on something banished smile
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #82 posted 08/30/09 11:37am

thebanishedone

avatar

First timer is the hardest ,love annie smile
it goes really smooth and easy after that cool
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #83 posted 08/31/09 9:14am

joelmarable

SPYZFAN1 said:

Sorry but I have to agree with joelmarable. I'm pretty sure Jimi did play with his teeth in certain moments. The b/w clip of Jimi playing the "Hey Joe" solo (from the Marquee-67) is teeth. The close ups prove that.

His solo at the end of "Purple Haze" from "Jimi Plays Berkeley" is teeth too. You can also hear how his guitar tone changed while playing with his teeth.

I have a Guitar Player interview where Jimi joked and said 'If guitar players down south didn't play with their teeth, they would get shot'.

King Curtis also said that Jimi had big, strong teeth and had a tongue bigger than Gene Simmons. He said during live shows (when Jimi was his sideman) he would yell "EAT IT!" and Jimi would go to town.
thanks dude.it was his teeth i taped it and slowed it down.if its not teeth his hands sure do look like teeth.and between the legs and behind the neck.dude is the greatest 2 me.prince in his ass thou.
stickman
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #84 posted 08/31/09 10:08am

sgmusic

avatar

About Jimi playing with his teeth. How do you suppose he did that? Did he just scrape his teeth across the strings like a pick or did he bite the strings and pluck them? And how did he do that without chipping the crap out of his teeth on the low E?

Now that's one thing I've never seen Prince do. Well I don't think I've ever seen him do the behind the back thing either.
"If you wanted to buy a Sam Cooke album, where would you go?"
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #85 posted 08/31/09 10:52am

kenlacam

For someone who "played guitar for 25 years", one would think that you would know how he played with his teeth, even if you can't do it yourslef...suspect.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #86 posted 08/31/09 11:00am

sgmusic

avatar

kenlacam said:

For someone who "played guitar for 25 years", one would think that you would know how he played with his teeth, even if you can't do it yourslef...suspect.



As far as I know all you need are two hands to play guitar. You could get away with one. Now I'm guessing he probably plucked the strings by biting them but like I said i don't know for sure. Seems like that would chip the shit out of your teeth. I wasn't close enough to Jimi Hendrix when he played Woodstock to see how it was done. I guess if someone comes along and plays the guitar with their ass hairs I ought to know how they did it or just maybe I'm not a real guitarist. Stop bitching. I thought you were leaving?
[Edited 8/31/09 11:03am]
"If you wanted to buy a Sam Cooke album, where would you go?"
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #87 posted 09/01/09 12:08am

ladychel61

avatar

blackguitaristz said:

ladychel61 said:


I don't know who they are... hmmmI'm sure they were great... headbang

biggrin Sure u do lady61. Eddie Hazel was the original lead guitarist in Funkadelic. And Ernie Isley was the guitarist from The Isley Brothers..

I'll talk 2 some of my family,they will refresh my memory
♥ Feeling Purple Rain...Don't hold on 2 the pain, hold on 2 the memories ♥
My heart will go on...Celine Dion
I will always love you...Whitney Houston
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #88 posted 09/01/09 12:10am

ladychel61

avatar

ladychel61 said:

blackguitaristz said:


biggrin Sure u do lady61. Eddie Hazel was the original lead guitarist in Funkadelic. And Ernie Isley was the guitarist from The Isley Brothers..

I'll talk 2 some of my family,they will refresh my memory

hmmm
♥ Feeling Purple Rain...Don't hold on 2 the pain, hold on 2 the memories ♥
My heart will go on...Celine Dion
I will always love you...Whitney Houston
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Page 3 of 3 <123
  New topic   Printable     (Log in to 'subscribe' to this topic)
« Previous topic  Next topic »
Forums > Prince: Music and More > AND ANOTHER THING - Prince as a guitarist