ernestsewell said:

You think being left-handed is a novelty? Do you think Paul McCartney, Tony Iommi, Doug Pinnick, George Johnson, Otis Rush, Albert King, Kurt Cobain, Tim Armstrong, etc... (or any other lefty players of whatever genre) are novelties, too? Or just Jimi's left-handedness?

DerekH said:

Simmer down, sunshine. That's not what I said. No one mentioned all those other people.

JesusFreak said:

But like I alluded to in my original post, people on here can careless about Prince being influenced by Hendrix on the guitar. Or in his dress. See, mentioning that to people....It's not like no one on here doesn't know that. EVERYBODY knows that. I have seen threads on here waaaay worse than this (at least so far) where people get to posting pics of Hendrix, especially from late 66 to 68 because you can see in the pics where Prince obviously has taken a large chunk. And then they'll post pics of Prince where this is evident and put them side to side. Hell, back in 84-88, rock mags such as Creem would do the exact same thing. They would have pics of P on the PR tour playing his guitar and openly mock him because he was trying to evoke Hendrix so heavily. Creem published pics of Prince like this all the time. And it was hardly ever when they didn't mention Jimi. Prince certainly was NOT trying to hide this and everybody at that time could see that he wasn't trying to hide it. Hell, he wanted folks to associate him with Hendrix. To him, THAT was a feather in his cap. So EVERYBODY who knows anything about Jimi, how he played and how he dressed and how he looked, ALL knows about what P has worked into his own "thing". That's why showing the pics of Jimi and P side by side, especially on here, nah, people who don't think highly of Hendrix, for whatever the reason, them seeing the pics doesn't mean shit. When P came with Dreamer, I was SHOCKED to see that so many people in this forum were relating it to Jimi's Voodoo Child or to Hendrix in general. But whatever...Again, if people have a problem with Jimi for whatever the reason, like I said, that's never going to change. Mentioning "Well P did this and P did that BECAUSE of Hendrix....Where do you think P got that from? Hmmmmmph!" The people who can careless about Jimi ALREADY knows all of that. They like having people make comparisons because if nothing else, that gives them the platform to deny it all or to shoot Jimi down, etc. That's why I said before, it is what it is.
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sgmusic said:

i dont know about the hype thing man
i was no where near around in the 60's and when i forst hear ''all along the watchtower'' guitar solo i was like ''woah havent heard anything quite like that
b4'' and this was ages after it came out and with me comparing it to all the guitar solos ive heard, i reeeeeaaaaalllly like this one

prince is a great guitarist but hendrix, OMG

blackguitaristz said:

Hey BG, thanks for a little perspective on this thread!

However, I have the impression that you're giving up on debate all together. If someone has some sort of an statement, you can have a discussion on the basis for that statement. Sure, you can't make someone like an artist, but this thread is about a statement and therefor can be called upon and it has to be backed up.

The thing with this thread is that some people simply like or dislike an artist and only want to hear what they want to hear. So, BG, you're exactly right. Nothing is going to change. This isn't a discussion. That requires an open mind. This is just some people throwing mud around

Sander said:

I can dig it... Nah, I haven't given up on debating. I just pick and choose what I debate about, that's all. And on this topic, to me, there is NO debate necessary simply because again, people dig what they dig. And they dislike what they dislike. Or not impressed by or impressed by. I'm not into trying to change people's minds about ANYTHING. And certainly not into trying to convince people of anything.

Sander said:

Your welcome and yep.

ronnwinter said:

Stevie I think is king with Clapton at a strong #2.

Jimi's a pioneer of rock n roll. Prince is not.

7salles said:

Well said. What year did Jimi die, 1970 was it? This was YEARS before Van Halen, SRV, even Jimmy Page's important work. Jimi wasn't slogged down with years of shredding muck. The 60s was a time of pure music - I'd say by the 80s, shred's heyday well...music was dying a painful death.

I didn't realize it at the time but that's probably why I latched onto prince so hard in the mid 80s. For a while, he seemed to take up some of the musical soul that was lost in 1970.

blackguitaristz said:

Exactly. Because debating about most seminal musicans on Prince.org is...well...you know what types usually say certian things lol.




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sgmusic said:

My favorite good guitar player's are...Prince,Larry Graham,Michael Hampton(kid funkedellic) and Bootsy Collins.Back in the day they where the best

ladychel61 said:

were the best you get the point...

These "Top Ten Lists" don't really change much over time.

Take 6 or 7 deceased or born during the 50's to the 60's musicians.

Add 2 living musicians born between 60 and 70 who were extremely popular.

Toss in one newbie who better make a kick ass second album or he won't be on the list next year.

It's nice as page filler but if Hendrix is always going to be number one then why rewrite the article over and over.
I'm not a fan of Hendrix and don't profess to know much about his music.
If an artist is still alive and creating new styles and songs wouldn't he move up the list in comparison to someone deceased who hasn't created anything new in over a quarter of a century.

Since I am not a guitar player I can't really comment on anything other than the music moving me. From the music I hear from Prince...I've been a fan for 30 years...

HonestMan13 said:

What u ask is a valid question....BUT also the points u make are no different when it comes to Top 10 lists for Best Album Ever. One album 98% of the time gets #1...Sgt Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band by The Beatles. That album was released in 1967. 42 years ago. So, using your logic and reasoning regarding why Hendrix is always number one applies very well as to why Sgt Pepper is always number one. Of course now if you're a major fan of The Beatles and of this album, then it's all hunky dory in it's justification, yes? Because trust me, there are many others who have their pick of what SHOULD be ranked #1 for all time best album ever. And it won't be Sgt Pepper. Using you logic and concept which is the base of your tail end question, again, which is valid....You're going to tell me that there has not been another album in 42 years that has been better written, better arranged, better performed, better produced than Sgt Pepper? I'm NOT asking this question personally of course...I'm just applying your logic about Jimi and using it for an album that is usually always ranked at #1 for best album of all time.... I think the writers and publishers at Rolling Stone, Spin, etc falls victim to what they believe..And that is that they hold Jimi Hendrix and Sgt Pepper as the highest star in the galaxy. They have the highest regard for this guitarist and for this album. Largely because they feel that what they achieved as a guitarist and as an album was supreme inventiveness, creativity on the highest level and achieved sounds that shaped into musical passages that went WAY beyond everything that had been achieved before them. Perhaps these writers and publishers who form these lists simply believe that untill they see a guitarist and an album have the effect and impact on an entire world and generation after generation that these two artistic achievements have had, then they will forever keep them at #1 on the lists. Untill they feel that another guitarist and another album single handedly CHANGED how a guitar is to be approached and played and how music is to be recorded and how an album could be treated...These two acts of supreme creativity, through THIS, therefore CHANGED popular music as the world knew it and that laid the supreme blueprint for millions of others to inspire to and to follow and to strive for and to reach and surpass.....Maybe untill they feel this has happened ...untill then, they will continue to always be ranked at #1.
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ladychel61 said:

Good picks...What do u think about Eddie Hazel and Ernie Isley?

You must know something about Jimi
1)He was right handed but played left handed guitar
2)during studio sessions he was Clean,he was not under
the influence.
And yes Jimi Hendrix really deserves
to be number 1 on all guitar lists.
even when he was sloppy it sounded natural like that mistake should be there.
And i wouldn't call Jimi sloppy.
listen to Jimi Hendrix and the Band of Gypsies
no sloppy playing there and he played amazing,not a single guitar player can be in the same sentence as Jimi,not even Prince.

problem is most of you never really listened to what
Jimi played on guitar.
and he didn't play pentatonic only he played modes even without theoretical knowledge of what mods are.

Hendrix was not only great on lead guitar,his rhythm work his chord structures are amazing ,pure genius.
listen to this tracks:
Pali Gap
Bold as Love
Burning of the midnight lamp
Villanova Junction
Who Knows

and you can reproduce Van halen's tapping or Yngwie neoclassical style but try to
play like Jimi
no way ,nobody achived that,no matter how much they try
Jimi Hendrix is a god and the only guitar players that deserves to be called number 1
only ignorant people who refuse to give it a listen to his great music cant understand all the beauty of Jimi's guitar playing

thebanishedone said:

thebanishedone said:

JesusFreak said:

YES!!!!!

kenlacam said:

The good news? We have them both.

It's kinda unfair to compare Jimi to P. Just like when cats compare Jimi to Eddie Hazel. Jimi was only here for a little while and did so much in that time.

I'm sure if he had lived, he would have worked his way into jazz with Miles, or funk with George Clinton and Sly, or who knows? Hell, he might have played a screaming lead solo over a disco track in the late 70's.

And although Jimi wasn't a "shred" guitarist, he played with a lot of soul. I gather he played whatever style the mood hit him. And depending if his equipment wasn't faulty, or if the crowd (or Noel) didn't piss him off, he had a good time onstage. His entire "Monterey" show was on the other night and he was tearin' it up.

.."Could you excuse for a minute while I play my guitar?"..Classic.

SPYZFAN1 said:

thebanishedone said:

Right on!

Add to the fact that he was also a songwriter capable of producing absolutely beautiful songs (e.g. Little Wing, Angel) and studio innovator (Btw, I'm quite sure Sgt. Peppers is what drove Jimi to become a studio inovvator!).

Sometimes it really gets me that people only see Hendrix as a guitarist when he was an artist first and foremost!

It insults me when i read how much bullshit people
can say about Jimi
but i'm pretty sure that does who gave Jimi's
material a chance now how great Jimi was in
every aspect of his art.
And i dare anyone who says "Jimi wasn't all that "

to play a Jimi Hendrix song note by note with
same amount of feeling.
No fucking way,nobody can do it and those
who tried to play
Jimi failed big time.

I assure you its a lot easier to play speed
demon
Yngwie like neo-classical shredding style but
nobody can play like Jimi.
Stevie Ray Vaughn somebody said,he was good

guitar player but not in the same universe as Jimi and Stevie comes pale in
comparation to Jimi.

To those who think Jimi was nothing special think again:
http://www.youtube.com/wa...atrtABXVm4

The title is Pali Gap it's less known Hendrix composition to casual Jimi's fans.
It sounds like Prince and Santana but its better.

And i think that Jimi was so fluid on guitar like no other guitar player in history of rock.
everything he played melodies,improvisation,feedback,mistake
,everything compliments his music and i would change nothing.

Little trivia:Did you know that after hearing Jimi playing high speed version of Killing Floor Eric Clapton was devestated
,he thought he lost his job.

He was crying and weeping on the backseat of a Taxi like a little boy,scared to death.
after that event Eric pushed himself to
the limit and gave us his best during his time with Cream

HonestMan13 said:

You would think so. Why Hendrix always winds up at the top of these lists is beyond me. The only thing I can think of is that in order for people to feel secure in their own "knowledge" of what is considered "good" there have to be some constants. For example, when it comes to what people consider "great" movies if you were to poll folks about what they consider to be the top 20 American movies ever made to some it would be blasphemous not to put Gone With The Wind at the top of the list. If you don't then you obviously don't know anything about movies. It just seems to be the way things work. Same with guitar players. They do it with regard to the type of guitar you play as well. They swear if you don't play a Fender "blah" or a Gibson "blah blah" then you don't know S%$@ about guitars. Like I said at the beginning of this thread. In my opinion - Hendrix wasn't all that great a guitarist. Good songs, good attitude, nice noise, nice persona, but he is not a guitar god. I believe Prince on the other hand deserves a lot more credit than he gets. Acoustic, electric, bass, rhythm, lead, jazz, blues, rock, funk, pop, you name it, he plays it and he plays it well.