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Do you consider P to be the King of Funk?. ..has P done enough to take over from JB, Sly stone etc?. Personally when it comes to doing his thing live I would put him on a par now with JB but as his style is so varied and Lite on CD , especially during the late 90's and 00's I would not class him as overly funky anymore. I really thought the MPLS Sound CD would be the one but we all know how that one turned out!. So live yes and on record only on occasion for me. | |
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Hell no! The MPLS Sound is "lite "funk at best. His best funk days are way behind him. He used to be the "prince" of funk, but NEVER king. That goes to Geoge Clinton and Parliment. | |
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King of Funk? Oh come on. Why say that? Prince does Prince music, he's not good at fitting into genres. Prince is his own thing, which is funk influenced but not true funk. | |
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kenlacam said: Hell no! The MPLS Sound is "lite "funk at best. His best funk days are way behind him. He used to be the "prince" of funk, but NEVER king. That goes to Geoge Clinton and Parliment.
Yup George is the king of funk. Funk is just one element of Prince's work. if you've gotta pay for things that you've done wrong I've gotta big bill coming at the end of the day- Gil Scott Heron
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Surely not. | |
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Riera said: James Brown he ain't, baby
is does not come uder the king of funk now way. James marvin george Mr collins many many many more hes good at what he does i'll give him that [Edited 8/5/09 10:22am] | |
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P is so versatile and diverse that he cannot be the king or prince of any
particular type of music, however, he can be labeled a master of music. Stand Up! Everybody, this is your life!
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Well JB, Clinton and Sly sure aint Prince !! Overall, he kills those guys. They are all great in their own ways and styles and have each influenced Prince - but all round, they don't come close to him !!
I know that may be a little controversial and I would usually add caveats such as "it's all about personal opinion" etc, but sometimes it just seems FACT - and here, up against these guys, Prince floors them - OVERALL - with ease and in sooo many ways! I think because we see/hear so much Prince here, it is very easy to take for granted just how brilliant he is and because some other artists have been around even longer and are given titles ("Godfather of Soul") or give themselves titles ("King of Pop, Rock and Soul") some seem to laud them higher than their output deserves. Don't get me wrong, I'm well aware of the impact JB had (not just musically either) and dig MJ - but could you really listen to 50 JB songs on the bounce? Surely many would struggle to listen to 3 Clinton based (PFUNK, Parliament, Funkadelic) albums all the way through - back to back, without tiring of the same grooves, chants, structureless jams??? To answer the question solely - I would put them all on a pedastal of "Great Funkateers" - Prince included. I don't see how you can say his funk is lite - did you guys witness Controversy live at the O2 in 2007? Or see any number of the aftershows? No way is his stuff lite - it may have different nuances/directions to it, that veer away from another 15minute P-FUNK jam with Clinton barking throughout - but I can't see how that makes it "lite" - P just adds more flavours and colours. [Edited 8/5/09 10:28am] [Edited 8/5/09 10:29am] | |
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No. George Clinton. Prince is "the king of musical diversity".  [Edited 8/5/09 10:29am] | |
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FunkDr said: Well JB, Clinton and Sly sure aint Prince !! Overall, he kills those guys. They are all great in their own ways and styles and have each influenced Prince - but all round, they don't come close to him !!
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FunkDr said:[quote]Well JB, Clinton and Sly sure aint Prince !! Overall, he kills those guys. They are all great in their own ways and styles and have each influenced Prince - but all round, they don't come close to him !! 
I know that may be a little controversial and I would usually add caveats such as "it's all about personal opinion" etc, but sometimes it just seems FACT - and here, up against these guys, Prince floors them - OVERALL - with ease and in sooo many ways! 
I think because we see/hear so much Prince here, it is very easy to take for granted just how brilliant he is and because some other artists have been around even longer and are given titles ("Godfather of Soul")]well deserved or give themselves titles ("King of Pop, Rock and Soul") some seem to laud them higher than their output deserves.I AgREE Don't get me wrong, I'm well aware of the impact JB had (not just musically either) and dig MJ - but could you really listen to 50 JB songs on the bounce? All Day Surely many would struggle to listen to 3 Clinton based (PFUNK, Parliament, Funkadelic) albums all the way through - back to back, without tiring of the same grooves, chants, structureless jams??? Yeah Baby To answer the question solely - I would put them all on a pedastal of "Great Funkateers" - Prince included. I don't see how you can say his funk is lite - did you guys witness Controversy live at the O2 in 2007? Or see any number of the aftershows? No way is his stuff lite - it may have different nuances/directions to it, that veer away from another 15minute P-FUNK jam with Clinton barking throughout - but I can't see how that makes it "lite" - P just adds more flavours and colours. see above first 
]I would not say that prince is lite in the funk department but i would say that prince would not be prince without the artists that have stood b4 him. Influence is a big thing for artist, and it structures the own style. i guess im a real funkatier anyway can can only suggest that all people should at least sit down and listen to Mr Collins Mr Clinton all the way through. you mentions Controversy Jam but then your argument only was backed up by a single jam not a vast collection. IN NO WAY am i slaggin your post you have your opinion but i do think its a little Nieve. but thanks for the post | |
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thepope2the9s said: P is so versatile and diverse that he cannot be the king or prince of any
particular type of music, however, he can be labeled a master of music.  sounds like some serious Prince-worship going on here LOL | |
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Nope. | |
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This again?? | |
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Prince is funky yet Cameo's got it over him...Prince is the King of Love Songs. "The Lion Sleeps Tonight... | |
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funkyhead said: ..has P done enough to take over from JB, Sly stone etc?. Personally when it comes to doing his thing live I would put him on a par now with JB but as his style is so varied and Lite on CD , especially during the late 90's and 00's I would not class him as overly funky anymore. I really thought the MPLS Sound CD would be the one but we all know how that one turned out!. So live yes and on record only on occasion for me.
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There is no King on this earth...
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THEMPLSOUND> You're so glam, every time I see you I wanna slam! | |
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minneapolisFunq said: THEMPLSOUND>
You beat me to it. I was thnking that if Prince is "King" of any one type of music, it would definitely be the MPLSound. | |
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Hell naw, Lionel Richie is. 
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Camille is the king of Funk.  | |
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funksterr said: King of Funk? Oh come on. Why say that? Prince does Prince music, he's not good at fitting into genres. Prince is his own thing, which is funk influenced but not true funk.
not true funk? shame on you! PRINCE IS FUNK! To Sir, with Love | |
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No, there is a lot more to Prince than just that. There's Joy In Expatriation. | |
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Seems to me, laying titles on singers tends to end badly most times. Luckily, in this case his name says it all. His name is Prince, and HE is FUNKY! | |
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millenium rain - a real funkateer wouldn't say that I'm naive, for saying what I believe!
It is just opinion - clearly - but I have many George Clinton albums and really dig listening to him tear the roof off the sucker - but after 3 songs - I find it too repetitive - re-hashin' the same trick ! These are great artists and as we have both mentioned, have all been a BIG influence on Prince. If we are/have to "grade" them, I would personally put JB and Sly slightly ahead/above George Clinton (though he sure ain't no maggot brain) in terms of talent and P above them all in terms of overall talent. I don't make such a statement lightly or without knowledge - it is a considered opinion. I guess, it's great that we can listen to and enjoy 'em all ! In terms of funk, his name is Prince and he IS funky - and on a par with the other great funkateers. I mentioned 1 song purely for brevity - but we both know he's got grooves n grooves upon a shelf! Happy funkin' from a fellow true funk soldier !
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FunkDr said: Well JB, Clinton and Sly sure aint Prince !! Overall, he kills those guys. They are all great in their own ways and styles and have each influenced Prince - but all round, they don't come close to him !!
maybe your ears are plugged up. Prince can't hang with George in the funk arena. George made funk what it is today. I call it "lite" because, son, it aint heavy funk. Period.I know that may be a little controversial and I would usually add caveats such as "it's all about personal opinion" etc, but sometimes it just seems FACT - and here, up against these guys, Prince floors them - OVERALL - with ease and in sooo many ways! I think because we see/hear so much Prince here, it is very easy to take for granted just how brilliant he is and because some other artists have been around even longer and are given titles ("Godfather of Soul") or give themselves titles ("King of Pop, Rock and Soul") some seem to laud them higher than their output deserves. Don't get me wrong, I'm well aware of the impact JB had (not just musically either) and dig MJ - but could you really listen to 50 JB songs on the bounce? Surely many would struggle to listen to 3 Clinton based (PFUNK, Parliament, Funkadelic) albums all the way through - back to back, without tiring of the same grooves, chants, structureless jams??? To answer the question solely - I would put them all on a pedastal of "Great Funkateers" - Prince included. I don't see how you can say his funk is lite - did you guys witness Controversy live at the O2 in 2007? Or see any number of the aftershows? No way is his stuff lite - it may have different nuances/directions to it, that veer away from another 15minute P-FUNK jam with Clinton barking throughout - but I can't see how that makes it "lite" - P just adds more flavours and colours. [Edited 8/5/09 10:28am] [Edited 8/5/09 10:29am] | |
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