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Reply #30 posted 08/03/09 2:19pm

OldFriends4Sal
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dothejump said:

TheKing662 said:

For one,we all know Wendy & Lisa was big help to the Revolution sound.But I somehow feel Prince wanted to do the work by hiself.That's proabaly why Dream Factory never came out. Because in the NPG he really did all the work by hiself,when it comes to contributing.


There were more bands between the Revolution and the NPG. Besides Eric Leeds, Atlanta Bliss, Miko Weaver (and Greg Brooks and Wally Safford) stayed after the Revolution disbanded. And Prince asked Brownmark to stay. So I don't think your theory is valid smile


U missed the most senior band member Dr Fink who was there since For U-1978
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Reply #31 posted 08/03/09 2:20pm

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OldFriends4Sale said:

Graycap23 said:


razz U guys are 2 much.....



hey when U get his topic every month you gotta have fun with it

Thank you for clarifying this topic has been beaten to death you are wonderful biggrin
Smurf theme song-seriously how many fucking "La Las" can u fit into a dam song wall
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Reply #32 posted 08/03/09 2:22pm

toots

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TheKing662 said:

toots said:



This topic has been beaten to death( IF you did the research on this site), you got my answer dont like move on.



Yeah,but you came in here trying to turn this thread into a negative thing.People must do want to discuss this topic if their still posting comments "about" the thread.

Um get over it dude seriously the beatdeadhorse was used and I ONLY POST ONCE! re read it I never did any sunch thing read OTHER comments as well for fuck sake move on!
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Reply #33 posted 08/03/09 2:26pm

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toots said:

OldFriends4Sale said:




hey when U get his topic every month you gotta have fun with it

Thank you for clarifying this topic has been beaten to death you are wonderful biggrin

Yeah but you missed the fact that he's a NEW member from this year, 2009
Some people think I'm kinda cute
But that don't compute when it comes 2 Y-O-U.
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Reply #34 posted 08/03/09 2:30pm

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Rinluv said:

toots said:


Thank you for clarifying this topic has been beaten to death you are wonderful biggrin

Yeah but you missed the fact that he's a NEW member from this year, 2009

You missed the fact there is a search bar at the top of the page nod and has been told to use it many times by other members including mods
[Edited 8/3/09 14:31pm]
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Reply #35 posted 08/03/09 2:30pm

TheKing662

Rinluv said:

toots said:


Thank you for clarifying this topic has been beaten to death you are wonderful biggrin

Yeah but you missed the fact that he's a NEW member from this year, 2009



smile
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Reply #36 posted 08/03/09 2:39pm

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TheKing662 said:

Rinluv said:


Yeah but you missed the fact that he's a NEW member from this year, 2009



smile

Do your thing brotha. Good thing you ignore the hatas. cool
Some people think I'm kinda cute
But that don't compute when it comes 2 Y-O-U.
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Reply #37 posted 08/03/09 2:53pm

TheKing662

Rinluv said:

TheKing662 said:




smile

Do your thing brotha. Good thing you ignore the hatas. cool



Appreciate that,your one of the cool ones cool
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Reply #38 posted 08/03/09 2:57pm

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King why dont you get the REAL answer from Wendy and Lisa nstead of speculating about it here is a clue:

got to www.wendyandlisa.com under the media part and there should be some interviews stating WHY prince broke up the Revolution. Its great insite and will answer lao tof your questions ( btw another word of advicfe IF you take it DONT be over obsessive on the thread making IF you join the site, Renata K Lisas wife runs the site and can ban you at a moments notice) they are very interactive with their fans and do answer alot of questions Lisa is known to ask the fans questions as well) and I fyou read slwoly through the forums you can find out WHY Prince did this that or the other to other questions.

now happy hunting
Smurf theme song-seriously how many fucking "La Las" can u fit into a dam song wall
Proud Wendy and Lisa Fancy Lesbian asskisser thumbs up!
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Reply #39 posted 08/03/09 3:09pm

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OldFriends4Sale said:

dothejump said:



There were more bands between the Revolution and the NPG. Besides Eric Leeds, Atlanta Bliss, Miko Weaver (and Greg Brooks and Wally Safford) stayed after the Revolution disbanded. And Prince asked Brownmark to stay. So I don't think your theory is valid smile


U missed the most senior band member Dr Fink who was there since For U-1978


Damn. He was the first one that I had in mind. I just forgot to type his name :-p
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Reply #40 posted 08/03/09 3:11pm

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dothejump said:

OldFriends4Sale said:



U missed the most senior band member Dr Fink who was there since For U-1978


Damn. He was the first one that I had in mind. I just forgot to type his name :-p

its ok we all forget at times comfort
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Reply #41 posted 08/03/09 3:30pm

SirPsycho

2 words. Susannah Melvoin
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Reply #42 posted 08/03/09 3:31pm

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I was hoping with the 25th anniversary of Purple Rain that there would be a Revolution reunion. At least for one cd. Even better, bring out everyones creativity by a Revolution vs. The NPG cd. (I know, wishful thinking. It would be HOT)
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Reply #43 posted 08/03/09 7:07pm

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TheKing662 said:

toots said:



This topic has been beaten to death( IF you did the research on this site), you got my answer dont like move on.



Yeah,but you came in here trying to turn this thread into a negative thing.People must do want to discuss this topic if their still posting comments "about" the thread.An stop sending me Orgnotes,if I cant reply.
[Edited 8/3/09 14:21pm]


[Bait snip - luv4u]
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Reply #44 posted 08/03/09 7:32pm

OldFriends4Sal
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toots said:

OldFriends4Sale said:




hey when U get his topic every month you gotta have fun with it

Thank you for clarifying this topic has been beaten to death you are wonderful biggrin



lol yeah it has

Please mods this isn't against the site at all
but one thing about topics over a certain amount of time here
is that someone new comes along and the purpose of groups like this
is to be able to talk about various aspects of Prince(history)
but after a certain amount of time even a month it seems you can no longer contribute to topics
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Reply #45 posted 08/03/09 7:33pm

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toots said:

Rinluv said:


Yeah but you missed the fact that he's a NEW member from this year, 2009

You missed the fact there is a search bar at the top of the page nod and has been told to use it many times by other members including mods



But they may not be able to post at that anymore, it closes
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Reply #46 posted 08/03/09 7:36pm

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SirPsycho said:

2 words. Susannah Melvoin



lol yep

sort of
She is the inspiration behind some of the best music
including the Family project

But she actually left Prince months after the Rolution split and recorded songs with Prince that ended up on the SOTT & Black albums
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Reply #47 posted 08/03/09 8:25pm

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xlr8r said:

TheKing662 said:




Yeah,but you came in here trying to turn this thread into a negative thing.People must do want to discuss this topic if their still posting comments "about" the thread.An stop sending me Orgnotes,if I cant reply.
[Edited 8/3/09 14:21pm]


[Bait snip - luv4u]


Indeed. She's [Name calling snip - luv4u]
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Reply #48 posted 08/03/09 8:44pm

TheKing662

toots said:

King why dont you get the REAL answer from Wendy and Lisa nstead of speculating about it here is a clue:

got to www.wendyandlisa.com under the media part and there should be some interviews stating WHY prince broke up the Revolution. Its great insite and will answer lao tof your questions ( btw another word of advicfe IF you take it DONT be over obsessive on the thread making IF you join the site, Renata K Lisas wife runs the site and can ban you at a moments notice) they are very interactive with their fans and do answer alot of questions Lisa is known to ask the fans questions as well) and I fyou read slwoly through the forums you can find out WHY Prince did this that or the other to other questions.

now happy hunting

[Edited 8/3/09 21:12pm]
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Reply #49 posted 08/03/09 8:45pm

TheKing662

TwiliteKid said:

xlr8r said:



[Bait snip - luv4u]


Indeed. She's [Name calling snip - luv4u].



[Bait snip - luv4u]
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Reply #50 posted 08/03/09 8:54pm

GMAN2000

TheKing662 said:

TwiliteKid said:



Indeed. She's [Name calling snip - luv4u].



[Bait snip - luv4u]



Prince was at his pinnacle with the 'Revolution' after the break-up it was Prince who would began to decline slowly into the depths of medocrity; although slow he did create/release some solid tracks/albums; however, none that could rival the entire works of 'Prince & The Revolution'. Facts are facts, Purple Rain will live in musical history throughout time. Prince as a solo artist is outstanding, 'Prince & The Revolution' as a band can be ranked amongst the Best of all time.

Long Live the Revolution.
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Reply #51 posted 08/03/09 8:58pm

IAintTheOne

were you even born yet?
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Reply #52 posted 08/03/09 9:01pm

TheKing662

IAintTheOne said:

were you even born yet?


if ur talking to me, no
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Reply #53 posted 08/03/09 9:07pm

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TheKing662 said:

but then when you try and fix something thats not broke we ended up with the new power generation which included tony M. and tommy B looking more gay than prince.
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[Edited 8/3/09 3:04am]

Really. thats tasteless.
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Reply #54 posted 08/03/09 9:51pm

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TheKing662 said:

For one,we all know Wendy & Lisa was big help to the Revolution sound.But I somehow feel Prince wanted to do the work by hiself.That's proabaly why Dream Factory never came out. Because in the NPG he really did all the work by hiself,when it comes to contributing.

What's your reason/opinion the Revolution broke up?




BTW...nice to see a youngin' on a Prince board....

Be cool, lil' homie...
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Reply #55 posted 08/03/09 11:16pm

Byron

I must be one of the few who doesn't give a rat's ass that the Revolution broke up, or why lol lol...
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Reply #56 posted 08/04/09 1:48am

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Dream Factory/Crystal Ball wound up becoming Sign O' the Times beacuse Warner Brothers didn't approve of releasing a 3 CD set at that point in Prince's career. He whittled it down and we got Sign O' the Times. The Revolution's input on the album was basically rerecorded out. There's a "Dream Factory" bootleg that has some of the original tracks with more influence from Wendy & Lisa vocally and musically. They basically grew apart and when he broke up with Susannah it made things weird in the group. He decided to move in another direction and let most of the band go. Dr.Fink, Miko Weaver, Eric Leeds, Atlanta Bliss and Greg & Wally all remained and everyone else got booted. Replaced by Sheila E., Boni Boyer, Levi Seacer Jr. and Cat. This actually started a point where Prince more or less had a touring band and not an actually "named" group in his career. Even though the were unofficially referred to as the "Lovesexy Band".

By the way don't let some of these orgers get to you. There are some great people on here with a lot of positive insights and memories. There are also at least 15 total douchebags who hop on every thread to bring value to their miserable existences.

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Reply #57 posted 08/04/09 2:25am

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OldFriends4Sale said:

ranchero4vida said:

I think I remember reading in some book that they broke up bcuz of some issues the band members had with how much input they had. yet, I think it was bcuz P felt that he had 2 move on. As Dr Fink once put it, they were just hired hands, they were really only an extension of the "Prince" experience. P is the kind of musician who switches his style uup every one or two albums or so.


I read something like that too, but that was just a smoke screen
Especially since the band he had since 4U was basically the same band he had up to Dream Factory

Andre Cymone left on his own,
then right around the same time Gayle left

Bobby Z was with him since 76
Andre since the beginning
Dr Fink since For U
Brown Mark since Prince/Dirty Mind
Dez since For U
Lisa Coleman since Prince/Dirty Mind

the band never 'changed' the dynamic was the same
Dr Fink stayed and Prince also wanted BrownMark to stay ...Levi was last resort

Wendy & Lisa were dismissed because of emotional/personal/business conflict with Prince

It was after the Lovesexy era that the bands changed up regularly, but a big part of that was because the musicians were in for the long haul
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Andre, Gayle, and Dez all left. Wendy, Mark, Mico, Eric, and Bliss all joined. How could it have stayed the same? He may not have been changing his band like he does these days, but the band was hardly a fixed unit throughout the 80s.
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Reply #58 posted 08/04/09 2:41am

ShinNihonKikou

TheKing662 said:

For one,we all know Wendy & Lisa was big help to the Revolution sound.But I somehow feel Prince wanted to do the work by hiself.That's proabaly why Dream Factory never came out. Because in the NPG he really did all the work by hiself,when it comes to contributing.

What's your reason/opinion the Revolution broke up?


Yeah but, he let Tony M contribute to a lot of his early 90's work and concerts. To me, that's a huge step down. A fake rapper vs. two talented musicians.

Why did the Revolution break up? IMHO... Prince was starting to hang with a lot more people, like those bodyguards turned dancers. A lot of people thought Prince dissed the black music scene by making (so-called) white albums like ATWIAD and Parade. Warner Bros would only allow one album release per year which caused Prince to keep refining his albums instead of releasing them when they were completed... thus Dream Factory turned into (almost) a Prince solo project as he kept adding songs like Sign o' the Times, The Cross, and deleting songs the band worked on together. Plus he broke up with Susannah which probably caused tensions within the band. Quite simply, they broke up for a lot of reasons.

However, his attitude towards Wendy and Lisa is very suspect. They seem to be mad about not getting paid much during the time period, and not getting enough recognition for their contribution. And, when Prince wanted to "finish" Roadhouse Garden, all Wendy and Lisa asked for was to be paid for their time. To me it seems like a very simple request. Prince denied them that (so it seems), so the album was never finished. For some reason, it appears he wants them to work for free. Didn't they mention that he doesn't pay them at all and just sends tracks to them via email, they put some work on it, and send it back?

In the end, his music definitely did suffer when Wendy and Lisa left. Albums like Diamonds and Pearls and Symbol are good because of Prince, but so bad because of contributions of people like Tony M and Prince trying to appease the black music crowd. I mean how does a true musician go from working with two talented musicians to Tony M?

I'm getting off track, so I'll end this post.
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Reply #59 posted 08/04/09 3:51am

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ShinNihonKikou said:

TheKing662 said:

For one,we all know Wendy & Lisa was big help to the Revolution sound.But I somehow feel Prince wanted to do the work by hiself.That's proabaly why Dream Factory never came out. Because in the NPG he really did all the work by hiself,when it comes to contributing.

What's your reason/opinion the Revolution broke up?


Yeah but, he let Tony M contribute to a lot of his early 90's work and concerts. To me, that's a huge step down. A fake rapper vs. two talented musicians.

Why did the Revolution break up? IMHO... Prince was starting to hang with a lot more people, like those bodyguards turned dancers. A lot of people thought Prince dissed the black music scene by making (so-called) white albums like ATWIAD and Parade. Warner Bros would only allow one album release per year which caused Prince to keep refining his albums instead of releasing them when they were completed... thus Dream Factory turned into (almost) a Prince solo project as he kept adding songs like Sign o' the Times, The Cross, and deleting songs the band worked on together. Plus he broke up with Susannah which probably caused tensions within the band. Quite simply, they broke up for a lot of reasons.

However, his attitude towards Wendy and Lisa is very suspect. They seem to be mad about not getting paid much during the time period, and not getting enough recognition for their contribution. And, when Prince wanted to "finish" Roadhouse Garden, all Wendy and Lisa asked for was to be paid for their time. To me it seems like a very simple request. Prince denied them that (so it seems), so the album was never finished. For some reason, it appears he wants them to work for free. Didn't they mention that he doesn't pay them at all and just sends tracks to them via email, they put some work on it, and send it back?

In the end, his music definitely did suffer when Wendy and Lisa left. Albums like Diamonds and Pearls and Symbol are good because of Prince, but so bad because of contributions of people like Tony M and Prince trying to appease the black music crowd. I mean how does a true musician go from working with two talented musicians to Tony M?

I'm getting off track, so I'll end this post.


So why aren't Lisa and Wendy's albums any good?
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