I think intelectuals love to speak to tell what they know. Prince does not like to talk. On most of his interviews I wanna say 'Just shut-up and sing'

No, clearly he is not. But he´s a wonderfully creative artist, which is not too bad either
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A lot of intellect hate on display today!

No, because he is a Jehovah's Witness

ShinNihonKikou said:

a fool just like euler or gauss, the greatest mathematicians of all time. but maybe you don't know them, as you are for sure no intellectual.

ShinNihonKikou said:

Not now.

ShinNihonKikou said:

Someone like you can be thought of as an ignorant immature fool!

squirrelgrease said:

I bet it is too. Though like many, I would consider him an Artist before I would consider him an Intellectual. I would even say Musical Genius, but not Intellectual. Intellectual, in my opinion, is not even that flattering of a label. "Intellectuals", to me, often don't even seem to be all that smart, lol.

jdcxc said:

I would LOVE to read that. Is that anywhere online or published?

'intellectual' to me is a label applied to someone, or something that one considers themselves; or identifies with.

If you mean is prince intelligent? yes and no. musically (he is exceptionally gifted) and I would consider a musical genius. and that may extend to being creative in other domains. he is also very business minded, whether that is out of necessity or due to having other people to help him - is clearly up for debate.

besides being creativity intelligent i don't think he has a very high IQ or can reason about things in a particularly complex way (the other aspects of intelligence).

e.g. he is very cullable, is easily taken by religious views and other claims. and clearly doesn't use reason or any sort of questioning to arrive at his own conclusions. if science has found one solid thing about religious people is that they (across studies and meta-analysis) have lower IQ's than non believers.

heightened creativity often comes hand in hand with superstitious beliefs and magical like thinking (the topic of my thesis). 2 sides of the coin
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it's well known that the cerebral people are clitoral....

ShinNihonKikou said:

The lips of the wise spread knowledge; not so in the hearts of fools.

He'd like to think he is but he isn't

No, he may be a musical genius and I suspect he is definitely a very smart man or was, now hes treading water.
Also when music consumes your whole life, like it does with Prince, theres little time to understand current affairs or read good books, does he play chess or do cryptic crosswords probably not, is he smart - yes. Is he an intellectual - hell naw! When he tours, does he go to museums or look at historical and /or archaeological sites for interest? (I sincerely doubt it).
Also believing in a cult like Jehovahs Witness and choosing to believe a 2000 year old book full of dogma, confirms this prognosis. It mean he accepts creation and biblical theories over rational scientific developments, therefore denying him the state of enlightened reason and rationality. Being a superstitious Christian therefore drops him to a lower level of mental and intellectual development .(Added 4 those of u who may have thought I am a semi literate simpleton)

Huggiebear said:

Why would someone think that? And how would that have disproved it?

Philosophical? Used to love his sex v God of the 1980's. I feel he thinks a lot and is why he changes his mind. I know people here think he is a closed minded fool but I've never seen anyone change as much as P and I am assuming that is why he has soo many styles

squirrelgrease said:

I would only add that I actually think that the extreme viewpoints he occasionally conveys are actually very calculated statements. I am convinced he doesnt believe half of them but he says them to a) maintain an air of the mentalist and b) he knows that they will lead to dicussion which in turn leads to interest

I will never know for sure of course and thats the way Prince likes it. Being mysterious sells and Prince is a salesman.

I think Prince is a well-read intellectual. To get to where he has you cant just be good and producing songs and playing the instruments you have to be smarter than the competiton.

The real Prince (in casual aquaintence) is likely quite a bit different from the Prince that is projected as the music star by Mr. Nelson. I know that after the premiere of "Scanner Darkly" in Los Angeles, Prince was at the afterparty and was talking to Richard Linklater the director for quite some time, and then the two hung out at Prince's house and talked about all kinds of film analysis till the sun came up. Linklater said that Prince had a vast and very detailed knowledge of film (old ones, new ones, etc).

this leads me to believe that if Prince hadn't made it as a "schlocky on the surface" pop star, he would come across as an intellectual if you met him at a party and talked to him.

I think he really is quite a bit different then what the concerts and songs actually indicate. He really is playing make believe in the music and "Prince" act to some extent. Again, I'm just guessing based on friends of friends that have hung out with him... I haven't ever talked to the fool!

Even "T" had said that in person, Prince could put up a very good headstrong but logical/detailed arguement about issues and his slant on things. He described him as very smart.

ufoclub said:

Please tell us more! Fascinating stuff!

And I agree with you - his public/private personas are wildly different, I'm sure.

onenitealone said:

well that's all I know. I'm very good frineds with an up and coming young director who talks with Richard Linklater and was at the afterparty for Scanner Darkly. He called me on his phone and was like "Guess what, I'm standing a few feet away from Prince and Richard Linklater who are talking". My friend later talked with Linklater who told him about hanging with Prince and talking about movies.

T could answer questions himself! Is he on here at all these days?

ufoclub said:

Thanks! I'm not sure who 'T' is, though...

onenitealone said:

I think he was called SaTim on here... his name is Tim... used to work for Prince's company in the mid 90's. He had an insider perspective and heard a lot of unreleased music.

another observation that might point to Prince being a type of intellectual:

He saw the film, attended the afterparty, and talked to the director at great length about "A Scanner Darkly"

He stopped a concert and took the entire audience to see "Minority Report" on it's opening day ( I was there)

He frequently has scifi/conspiracy/philosophical/reality concept type themes and lyrics of late.

He must be a fan of Philip K Dick (author of the above novels and most famously for Blade Runner)

So Prince is one of those intellectual scifi geeks to some degree.

ufoclub said:

Maybe George Clinton's influence.

Scifi ?!

Except for The Exodus Has Begun... that did not influence its work in all the cases.

Prince is not George Clinton.

Genesia said:

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First of all Prince was talking about what Dick Gregory said about Chemtrails I guess some of us should be careful when discussing someone eles’s intellect since some of us do not know how to listen well.
I don’t think of P as in intellectual and I not sure what wearing glasses had to do with anything but I do not think he is a moron because the music business is a hard industry to survive in. You got to have an A game to hang in as long as he has.

Huggiebear said:

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"Also believing in a cult like Jehovahs Witness and choosing to believe a 2000 year old book full of dogma, confirms this prognosis. It mean he accepts creation and biblical theories over rational scientific developments, therefore denying him the state of enlightened reason and rationality. Being a superstitious Christian therefore drops him to a lower level of mental and intellectual development "

This is so ignorant and obnoxius.

NoVideo said:

I don't think he would either. I also don't think he's an intellect but a musical genius, without a shadow of a doubt.