xlr8r said: NastradumasKid said: Audience-..... If they did that, it would have been a great movie. | |
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Released in a year other than 1990, with its overdone jackets, fades, Jheri Curls and new jack swing style music (Original ok, Prince imitation not)
Got rid of Game Boyz especially TC Ellis, that brotha got on my last nerves with his "Yo let me do my rap crap" Got rid of Ingrid Chavez The other thing I would have lost was his obsession with night and dark smokey nightclubs, I like daylight in my movies not a witches coven Crow type set up and it always seemed to be raining and about 45F in that movie. What I would have kept was Morris (He was quite good and makes the movie watchable, sorry Prince was very wooden). Otherwise I find it hard to watch, Purple Rain was brilliant and UTCM at least has funny camp novelty value along with outstanding music, SOTT is also saved by the music and the choreography, But this has nothing to redeem it So what are u going 2 do? R u just gonna sit there and watch? I'm not gonna stop until the war is over. Its gonna take a long time | |
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I think GB was doomed from the start. Following SOTT, it's Prince's first HUUUUUGE mis-step - when the tip over the zenith becomes apparent. I imagine it as the first huge dip of the rollercoaster, GB is the view we see just as our brain registers we're going over the edge. Of course it didn't eventualise till 1990, much like the slightly delayed effect of that ride.
The original movie idea was twaddle, the album wouldn't make any steps forward from SOTT, and from what we know, wasn't even upto the standard of The Black Album, which to all intents and purposes was a collection of stuff done on the side released to show the why and the what. The longer that movie and album held Prince's attention, the worse it got - The occasional spacey spiritual nicety of Lovesexy was concentrated into an even more obscure and self-indulgent vision, eventually dragging down even the good name of Purple Rain with it by the end. I enjoy the movie and project, from beginning to end, as a fan of trash culture, and I think time has been kind to Grafitti Bridge since it's all but forgotten as a musical indiscretion, maybe in part to Prince later, greater crimes against pop music. But could it ever be saved? I'm not so sure! | |
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Wildboy said: Xtraordinary said: My quick thoughts: This movie was a waste of the characters created in “Purple Rain”. A movie showing the perils of fame and fortune would have been more interesting.
The Kid is married to a Hollywood actress and spends more time on the Hollywood prowl than in the studio. After more than a few failed albums, production projects and movies, his record company is ready to move on to its newest pot of gold, which happens to be someone the Kid fired from his band (one of many). The Time and Wendy & Lisa have formed a production company, Pandemonium Productions(think LaFace) and work with all of the who’s who in the record industry (I would use real musical acts). Billy’s bother (who managed the Kid after Billy died) has been stealing money and The Kid hits the skids. Tired of his self loathing and abusive behavior his Hollywood wife leaves him facing a future of living out his days as a has-been or fighting his way back to the top. A “wake up” conversation with a coked out Jerome Benton opens the eyes of the Kid and he realizes how many folks he’s crapped on. His need for resolution leads him to Pandemonium Productions and a showdown battle with his younger rival. Insert flames here --> Well that blows GB out of the waters by a mile...did you come up with this off the top of your head? Yep. It's the movie I wish he had made. I know Wendy and Lisa were out of the picture by this time but the could have been mentioned and not seen. Who ever said Prince has lost it - has lost it. The Kid's still got game! | |
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DesireeNevermind said: And couldn't we have had some background on how the Kid ended up with JJ and why their relationship suddenly fizzled to the point where she had to drop her panties in the street?
probably after apps went on falcon crest the kid turned 2 JJ and said ..ur next man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81 | |
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L4OATheOriginal said: DesireeNevermind said: And couldn't we have had some background on how the Kid ended up with JJ and why their relationship suddenly fizzled to the point where she had to drop her panties in the street?
probably after apps went on falcon crest the kid turned 2 JJ and said ..ur next It should have had more sex | |
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NastradumasKid said: L4OATheOriginal said: probably after apps went on falcon crest the kid turned 2 JJ and said ..ur next It should have had more sex JJ wasn't about to let Prince finger her coochie. ANYMORE | |
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DesireeNevermind said: NastradumasKid said: It should have had more sex JJ wasn't about to let Prince finger her coochie. ANYMORE You should make a thread like this about Purple Rain. Anyway, was I the only one who thought it was there was too much going in this movie and yet it was boring? | |
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i just thought of something way off topic but funny as all hell ..
could u imagine if richard pryor played prince's father in purple rain man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81 | |
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Everybody already took all the great answers, so I'd have just tied Prince's ass to a chair, told him to STFU and let y'all do y'all thing until he was needed on the set! I knew from the start that I loved you with all my heart. | |
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L4OATheOriginal said: i just thought of something way off topic but funny as all hell ..
could u imagine if richard pryor played prince's father in purple rain ( Imagining a coked up Richard Pryor playing Prince's father).....Lord that would be a nightmare. | |
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HatrinaHaterwitz said: Everybody already took all the great answers, so I'd have just tied Prince's ass to a chair, told him to STFU and let y'all do y'all thing until he was needed on the set!
ur the best kid | |
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DesireeNevermind said: HatrinaHaterwitz said: Everybody already took all the great answers, so I'd have just tied Prince's ass to a chair, told him to STFU and let y'all do y'all thing until he was needed on the set!
ur the best kid Purple Rain, How it should have been. Please do that or do you want me to do it? | |
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NastradumasKid said: DesireeNevermind said: ur the best kid Purple Rain, How it should have been. Please do that or do you want me to do it? Go for it babe | |
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DesireeNevermind said: NastradumasKid said: Purple Rain, How it should have been. Please do that or do you want me to do it? Go for it babe Just did. | |
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DesireeNevermind said: NastradumasKid said: It should have had more sex JJ wasn't about to let Prince finger her coochie. ANYMORE LOL you are stupid, LOL only can take nasty and make it funny | |
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HatrinaHaterwitz said: Everybody already took all the great answers, so I'd have just tied Prince's ass to a chair, told him to STFU and let y'all do y'all thing until he was needed on the set!
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given the project a bigger budget. | |
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No movie at all, or at least, not directed by P. himself and set on an indoor stage.. I mean, wtf was he thinking about making a "Purple Rain 2"????
That being said, I made my own alternative Graffiti Bridge soundtrack with 15 out of 17 songs of alternative versions of the song (and the vast majority sung by P. himself). These versions just sound more raw and real than, sadly, what ended up on the album. I am a fan of a few really good songs on there, but I think overall the songs are too overprocessed :/ ... ~Karebear~
**If you're not outraged, you're not paying attention** | |
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. [Edited 3/21/10 12:37pm] ..She's Just A Baby..but she's my lady..my loveR..my only friend!..true love that will last!..PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND..WHAT SHE SEES IN AN OLDER MAN..they never stop 2 think that maybe i'm what she's looking 4..THEY NEVER TAKE THE TIME..2 look in her mind | |
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I recall that GB the movie was not supposed to have Prince as the star only as the soundtrack and when Madonna,Janet Jackson,and Kim Bassinger backed out then Prince was forced to act. If you watch the movie and see Prince it's obvious that his heart really was not into "it".
Now the plot,script,etc needed a real screenwriter to work on the project and maybe it could have turned into a one star movie. Hell Spielburg could have directed it and it would have gotten no better than 2 stars. | |
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. [Edited 3/21/10 12:36pm] ..She's Just A Baby..but she's my lady..my loveR..my only friend!..true love that will last!..PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND..WHAT SHE SEES IN AN OLDER MAN..they never stop 2 think that maybe i'm what she's looking 4..THEY NEVER TAKE THE TIME..2 look in her mind | |
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This movie had so many mistakes.
How did that adorable man in Purple Rain turn into a "Flashdancing" wearing navel gazer? To me this movie was like making a sequel to "Gone with the Wind" called "Gone with the Rain" Because Vivien knows she was the absolute star of the movie she decides to direct it. She keeps her comical relief team of Mamie and Miss Prissy (Jerome and Morris) but she gives them absolutely nothing comical to say. She replaces Rhett Butler with a character with little sex appeal (ie replacing Apple with Aura). She decided to screw reality and takes off for Purpledom where her shoes are replaced by purple stilletos. She must find the Prince of Paisley Park in order to go back to Atlanta again. She adds lines for herself by talking to herself. Her leading love keeps floating in and out of reality so that no one not even she knows when her love is real or not. Her love meets the comical team, Mamie and Miss Prissy, on a bridge and jumps into a limo with them where they proceed to encourage her to get into a three way with them. This is how sensible Graffitti Bridge was to me. Oh, did I say that Vivian gets rid of everyone that played her family( Dr Fink, Bobby z, Wendy and Lisa) without mentioning where the hell they went. Oh yeah, somewhere in purpledom Vivian runs into a boy and his mother, who looks like she's his grandemother, and the boy starts dancing in the street. The boy is never seen again. No reason why he was there in the first place. Vivian just liked him I guess. | |
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ThreadBare said: It took a lot to be even more chauvinistic than its prequel, but Graffiti Bridge succeeds.
Imo "sexist" is the more suitable word for GB. Hey Robbin, take off your panties so I can walk over them. ...wtf... "this especially prepared potato is called pomme de terre" | |
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I think everyone should have died in this movie. [Edited 7/6/09 12:27pm] | |
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NastradumasKid said: I think everyone should have died in this movie.
[Edited 7/6/09 12:27pm] When Aura died no one even jumped in the ambulance. Who gives a crap. The whole lot of them get run over by a bus full of senior citizens, who gives a damn. We could have all shook hands on that one. | |
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dollwoman said: NastradumasKid said: I think everyone should have died in this movie.
[Edited 7/6/09 12:27pm] When Aura died no one even jumped in the ambulance. Who gives a crap. The whole lot of them get run over by a bus full of senior citizens, who gives a damn. We could have all shook hands on that one. lol....funny shit | |
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nyse said: dollwoman said: When Aura died no one even jumped in the ambulance. Who gives a crap. The whole lot of them get run over by a bus full of senior citizens, who gives a damn. We could have all shook hands on that one. lol....funny shit Hell, Think everyone in Purple rain should died except Prince. | |
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NastradumasKid said: nyse said: lol....funny shit Hell, Think everyone in Purple rain should died except Prince. lol....lol...Sounds like a direct quote from Prince himself...lol | |
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Imago said: Although I didn't like the set of the movie, an unrealistic set does not destroy a film. It can even add a unique visual effect to a movie, and at times, Graffiti Bridge is gorgeous like the stage set of SOTT, if a bit sterile.
What Graffiti Bridge needed , to me, was this: 1). If Prince is going to be the protagonist, the movie going audience (not just new power butt puppet fans) need a reason to care about him. In Pixar's "Finding Nemo", we care about Nemo because of the major loss at the beginning of the movie. Losing Nemo would make it all the more tragic, and added an emotional element to the story line. In Graffiti Bridge, even though the movie starts off with voice dialogue to his 'father', we're never given anymore real substance to that story line. Nor are does it give the character any true motivation. It's like a dead idea. Completely superfluous. The audience needs a reason to care. 2). If Aura is suppose to be his divine Muse, yet she's getting drunk with Morriss and his camp friends, then try to at least explain why she's so confusing. Plus, convey to us how they could possible develope an attraction towards each other cause the onscreen romance is almost as unbelievable as Micheal Jackson kissing Lisa Marie at the MTV Music Awards--the audience doesn't believe it. In Purple Rain, Appolonia's instant attraction to Prince could have been due to any number of motivations--love at first sight, Avarice, loneliness..anything.... and it played well into the bleak desperate quality of the movie. In Graffiti Bridge, you just get this really boring love interest that likes to read terrible poetry. By the time she dies, you almost wish they'd done it in slow motion, and I don't know about you guys--but I laugh my ass off at that scene. 3) If "Still Would Stand All Time" has enough power to turn the hearts of 'thugs' like Morriss Day , then at least show him as more than a one dimensional character preceding the final scene. Cause when they finally do their little 'hug', every non-Prince fan in the audience will be scratching their heads--and certainly all the straight ones brave enough to continue through the movie after the Tick Tick Bang performance will not buy the emotional conversion. You can't show one dimensional characters in a movie and at the last scene, reveal a softer side to them...it's too late at that point. 4) The battle of the bands : lawd. I mean, if Prince is trying to keep his club, we NEED to know why it is so important to him. What does he gain to lose? What are his options? I mean, it's just not believable. And in a movie like this, suspension of disbelief is required, but there's a point where it becomes silly. 5) The musical performances: Open the movie with something fierce. For fucks sake, Fiddler on the Roof opened with more 'umph'. If you're trying to recapture an audience (the American pop audience has an attention span of no more than 2 or 3 years), then 'wow' them. They're not going to be 'wow' by the plot--that's for sure. 6) It's too obvious in the scenes with Prince and Ingrid that he think's he's really cute. Whatever your opinions on his looks, when somebody is trying to act cute, it's not cute....it's annoying. His little pouty faces, etc. etc. simply weren't pullled off well. It was obvious he was playing it up for the camera, and when you can tell the actor is aware of the camera, it ruins the scene. 7) The movie felt like a hot ghetto mess version of Guys and Dolls but without Sinatra or Brando's stage presence. I'm not sure how he could have improved on it as I don't take issue with the set, but it didn't work with the type of movie he was making. 8) Add tension to the script. Give the audience a reason to care. Not just about the characters but the overall script. 9) During Purple Rain, Prince was 'cool'. Everybody loved him. He was everywhere. By the time Graffiti Bridge was released, Prince was no longer 'in'. Again, the movie could have given his career a bump if it had just been interesting. i love the way you made this in-depth analysis and evryone disregarded it.! good critic imago! x syble walk with crooked shoes www.myspace/syblepurplelishous | |
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