Giovanni777 said:

Yes it is. It shows that Prince hasn't lost it at all.

I am waiting for the tour, it must be right around the corner, he's probably busy practicing, hold your purple hippie pantz up brothers and sisters it's comin~

I think there is only one reason why this 3CD set has "dropped into the abyss" and that reason is...Prince. If he's not interested in promoting this set, why should the casual man on the street give a damn?

Prince seems to badmouth the record industry, radio, music TV, the current state of music, complains in his songs and interviews that there's no real music out there (about 80% true) and Prince doesn't want to pay radio and TV to play his stuff(like other musicians do), he regularly turns down invites to perform on music award shows, he turned down an offer from Guitar Hero (not enough cash). Anything that would give him mainstream exposure to the public he seems to run away from...then turns around and blames the system!

I love Prince's music and I respect him as a musician and I was always quick to summarize Prince's biography and musical achievements whenever somebody put him down...but I've since stopped doing that. It's not my job to promote Prince. Remember those emails from NPGMC to "Spread The Word". Why? Spread the word yourself, Prince. They're doing the same now on Lotusflow3r.com. "Tell your friends". No. It's up to you to tell the world you have a new album out. What about the world outside the U.S? The world outside the internet? How many people actually know Prince has a 3CD set out? Not many, I'd say.

(Sorry 'bout the rant, people.)

Out of the entire set. LOTUSFLOW3R I love the BEST! I think if he released this by it's self, and promoted it with singles, videos. He would of had a hit in his hands! MPLS was alright. Just too much filler. Bria's "Elixer" was only good for "Everytime". The rest was meh.

There seems to be this idea that we at the org get hyped because of quality or art.

The fact is, the org gets most excited over media hype/publicity. When Prince is promoting stuff, on tour, on tv, about to release an album...the forums get busy and flooded. It's not a bad thing, just the way it is. Prince is on Leno? I am geeked out and want to talk to y'all. For now, we have said all we have to say about Lotusflow3r, because it is a quiet time. Let's not make that a judgment on the quality of the music, but on the hype/promotion of it.

Hell, even a paparazzi pic of his new do is enough to get these threads burnin' up. All I am saying is this: Let's not pin prince.org's "talk" to the actual quality of art. As a group, we are slaves to hype just like everyone else...even if we pretend we are not....

[Edited 6/17/09 16:30pm]

purplecam said:

I dig Dance 4 Me too, but one track proves that he "hasn't lost it at all"? What about the rest of the mediocrity spread through the set?

The real reason that these albums aren't being talked about more around here is that they aren't that good. There's some strong stuff sprinkled on each of the discs, but on the whole, these records just don't stand up.

TwiliteKid said:

this is the only smart thing written on this post. Dance for me is average at best, but yes it's one of the stronger songs on the CD. I personally find it boring and repetitive.

the point is that the music is just not that good - yes i will be crucified in a prince community for saying that, but f*ck man Prince's first 10 years were such super quality, miles above anything else around at the time and that's why I and many other people on this site are fans now. For the music. It just seems these days that we have to accept the mediocrity that comes out and we are not allowed to criticise. The reason that so many people like the hype before the records come out is because we are all hoping to hear just a tiny bit of his former brilliance. Really it's been the same old sh1t since the early 90's and I doubt we will even get anything near as good as "living in america" either.

Anyway, just my asshole (sorry opinion).

vinx98 said:

So u must be a glutton for punishment since Prince has been doing the same ole shit since the early 90s. That means evidently that the problem lies with u and not his output since any sane thinking person would have realiazed that prince was somewhere else by now.

And the comment about "anything near as good as "living in america" completely de-legimaizes your ability to be taken seriously as knowing anything about good music lol.

And yes if u still listen to prince u have to accept what he puts out unless u are planning to go in the studio with him and tell him what to play. I'm quite sure that the "tiny bit of brillance" is quite alive and well and anyone with even an iota of musical sense has heard that in the last 20 years. If u haven't i can only conclude that u are some kind of musical dunce. I know its harsh but is oh so true. sorry.

it is a sign of the times but as a reflection of the industry as a whole and not just prince.no one is selling as well as they used to.for example..flo rida has ahd the biggest selling single this year yet the lp hasnt reach 300,000 in sales yet.and he definatly has been promoting.

tricky99 said:

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Thank you someone finally said it. Some orgers are not to bright when it comes to music

TwiliteKid said:

this is the only smart thing written on this post. Dance for me is average at best, but yes it's one of the stronger songs on the CD. I personally find it boring and repetitive.

the point is that the music is just not that good - yes i will be crucified in a prince community for saying that, but f*ck man Prince's first 10 years were such super quality, miles above anything else around at the time and that's why I and many other people on this site are fans now. For the music. It just seems these days that we have to accept the mediocrity that comes out and we are not allowed to criticise. The reason that so many people like the hype before the records come out is because we are all hoping to hear just a tiny bit of his former brilliance. Really it's been the same old sh1t since the early 90's and I doubt we will even get anything near as good as "living in america" either.

Anyway, just my asshole (sorry opinion).

khemseraph said:

Isn't that something right there? That "Right Round" garbage is everywhere and yet Flo Rida has sold less than Prince has.

vinx98 said:

Prince's music is eons ahead of his past, musically speaking.
U prefer his older music, and that's fine, but he has continued 2 advance musically, and is constantly outdoing his former self.

If U look at it objectively, forgetting about youth, the hype, the times... The 'Lotusflow3r' album CRUSHES 'Purple Rain' musically.

U have 2 separate the past from the present, if U R 2 enjoy the Now. That's all it takes, but it takes a lot 2 do so.

With most any other artist or group, the past beats the present clearly, with no adjustment 2 perspective needed.

Just look at The Police and Van Halen...

Both groups had lost it by their 5th album.

(Both 'Synchronicity' and 'Diver Down' sucked)

Here U have one man who has out-poured his soul 2 anyone who would listen... disregarding any expectations, and fearlessly crossing the lines.

Prince has only gotten better. In this way, he is the antitheses of "Pop Life" as it's usually a fast downward spiral, and Prince just keeps rising 2 the top with his excellence.

Leo777 said:

well said

vinx98 said:

Prince's music is eons ahead of his past, musically speaking.
U prefer his older music, and that's fine, but he has continued 2 advance musically, and is constantly outdoing his former self.

If U look at it objectively, forgetting about youth, the hype, the times... The 'Lotusflow3r' album CRUSHES 'Purple Rain' musically.

U have 2 separate the past from the present, if U R 2 enjoy the Now. That's all it takes, but it takes a lot 2 do so.

With most any other artist or group, the past beats the present clearly, with no adjustment 2 perspective needed.

Just look at The Police and Van Halen...

Both groups had lost it by their 5th album.

(Both 'Synchronicity' and 'Diver Down' sucked)

Here U have one man who has out-poured his soul 2 anyone who would listen... disregarding any expectations, and fearlessly crossing the lines.

Prince has only gotten better. In this way, he is the antitheses of "Pop Life" as it's usually a fast downward spiral, and Prince just keeps rising 2 the top with his excellence.

I think there is only one reason why this 3CD set has "dropped into the abyss" and that reason is...Prince. If he's not interested in promoting this set, why should the casual man on the street give a damn?

Prince seems to badmouth the record industry, radio, music TV, the current state of music, complains in his songs and interviews that there's no real music out there (about 80% true) and Prince doesn't want to pay radio and TV to play his stuff(like other musicians do), he regularly turns down invites to perform on music award shows, he turned down an offer from Guitar Hero (not enough cash). Anything that would give him mainstream exposure to the public he seems to run away from...then turns around and blames the system!

I love Prince's music and I respect him as a musician and I was always quick to summarize Prince's biography and musical achievements whenever somebody put him down...but I've since stopped doing that. It's not my job to promote Prince. Remember those emails from NPGMC to "Spread The Word". Why? Spread the word yourself, Prince. They're doing the same now on Lotusflow3r.com. "Tell your friends". No. It's up to you to tell the world you have a new album out. What about the world outside the U.S? The world outside the internet? How many people actually know Prince has a 3CD set out? Not many, I'd say.

(Sorry 'bout the rant, people.)

Giovanni777 said:

(xcept about synchonicity i love that album!!! )

vinx98 said:

Prince's music is eons ahead of his past, musically speaking.
U prefer his older music, and that's fine, but he has continued 2 advance musically, and is constantly outdoing his former self.

If U look at it objectively, forgetting about youth, the hype, the times... The 'Lotusflow3r' album CRUSHES 'Purple Rain' musically.

U have 2 separate the past from the present, if U R 2 enjoy the Now. That's all it takes, but it takes a lot 2 do so.

With most any other artist or group, the past beats the present clearly, with no adjustment 2 perspective needed.

Just look at The Police and Van Halen...

Both groups had lost it by their 5th album.

(Both 'Synchronicity' and 'Diver Down' sucked)

Here U have one man who has out-poured his soul 2 anyone who would listen... disregarding any expectations, and fearlessly crossing the lines.

Prince has only gotten better. In this way, he is the antitheses of "Pop Life" as it's usually a fast downward spiral, and Prince just keeps rising 2 the top with his excellence.

vinx98 said:

So u must be a glutton for punishment since Prince has been doing the same ole shit since the early 90s. That means evidently that the problem lies with u and not his output since any sane thinking person would have realiazed that prince was somewhere else by now.

And the comment about "anything near as good as "living in america" completely de-legimaizes your ability to be taken seriously as knowing anything about good music lol.

And yes if u still listen to prince u have to accept what he puts out unless u are planning to go in the studio with him and tell him what to play. I'm quite sure that the "tiny bit of brillance" is quite alive and well and anyone with even an iota of musical sense has heard that in the last 20 years. If u haven't i can only conclude that u are some kind of musical dunce. I know its harsh but is oh so true. sorry.

http://therelapse.com/#/?room=entrance

I'm feeling this...even though its creepy, it still has alot more than we got and its free. Im sure it will be updated on the regular.