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A Colonized Mind Question "UPLOAD: A CHILD WITH NO FATHER
DOWNLOAD: NO RESPECT 4 AUTHORITY UPLOAD: A CHILD WITH NO MOTHER DOWNLOAD: A HARD TIME SHOWING LOVE" Do these four lines imply that having no father or mother are bad things? In many of Prince's recordings he encourages challenging the status quo, questioning authority. As for a hard time showing love, I can't speak for Prince, but I myself have a hard time showing love and my mother was there for me since birth and still is. Showing love is hard because it is so hard to trust others because humans are inherently flawed. Thoughts? (in any case, this song is one of my favorites. Although the entire album is a gem. If any other artist released this as their debut, they would win ten grammys and be heralded as the next Prince.) I wish u heaven | |
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yep...the download is the negative result of no mom /no dad | |
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Spanky said: "UPLOAD: A CHILD WITH NO FATHER
DOWNLOAD: NO RESPECT 4 AUTHORITY UPLOAD: A CHILD WITH NO MOTHER DOWNLOAD: A HARD TIME SHOWING LOVE" Do these four lines imply that having no father or mother are bad things? In many of Prince's recordings he encourages challenging the status quo, questioning authority. As for a hard time showing love, I can't speak for Prince, but I myself have a hard time showing love and my mother was there for me since birth and still is. Showing love is hard because it is so hard to trust others because humans are inherently flawed. Thoughts? (in any case, this song is one of my favorites. Although the entire album is a gem. If any other artist released this as their debut, they would win ten grammys and be heralded as the next Prince.) It is hard to trust once you've been burned, but I think Prince is saying how the power of love can shape individuals and can overcome some of the 'flaws inherent' in us. It's a choice, fear or 
He seems to be saying that the 'download' is the outcome of children growing up in unbalanced homes. Most children do best with the love and guidance of both parents, a father and a mother. A father figure, hard, strong, secure and a mother figure, soft, gentle and yielding who are present in their lives can help create a balanced individuals who are capable of loving others. Single parents have mastered both roles in some cases it's just that when there's something lacking, the childs' development suffers. Someone could be in the same room with you and not really be present in the childs' world. More than anything kids just need to be loved and guided by both parents. That's not to say that this love and support can't come from others or from an extended family, ideally tho, each child needs to receive both types of love  | |
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I have unfortunatley lost both of my parents at a very early age...and the impact doesnt really hit you until you graduate from highschool, and on to college, get married, and most of all have kids of your own..you want to share these experiences with your Mother and father..there is no love like the love of your mother..ever...4 a time i was lost..during my early years..and i did have a lack of respect, just due to the fact that i felt like it was me against the world..I lost touch with my spirituality time and time again..Prince's influence over me, lit a match, and cursed the darkness soo many times..the night my mother died..i sat in a dark room and played Power Fantastic over and over..and cried my eyes out..
Soo in a god awful situation, you can be a healer or a manipulater... there are those who have no parents, and turn out to not care about anyone or anything..and go about destroying everything in there path..more than ever there are children being raised by children.. or having parents that are more like friends..that dont enforce any type of Pride or sense of respect. These type of children get sent out to war..and are the easiest to influence, to end up in gangs, abused, ..and soo the vicious cycle continues..they are the product of society.. Marry me 2day and 2night we'll make love until the world stops turning | |
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colorblu said: Spanky said: "UPLOAD: A CHILD WITH NO FATHER
DOWNLOAD: NO RESPECT 4 AUTHORITY UPLOAD: A CHILD WITH NO MOTHER DOWNLOAD: A HARD TIME SHOWING LOVE" Do these four lines imply that having no father or mother are bad things? In many of Prince's recordings he encourages challenging the status quo, questioning authority. As for a hard time showing love, I can't speak for Prince, but I myself have a hard time showing love and my mother was there for me since birth and still is. Showing love is hard because it is so hard to trust others because humans are inherently flawed. Thoughts? (in any case, this song is one of my favorites. Although the entire album is a gem. If any other artist released this as their debut, they would win ten grammys and be heralded as the next Prince.) It is hard to trust once you've been burned, but I think Prince is saying how the power of love can shape individuals and can overcome some of the 'flaws inherent' in us. It's a choice, fear or
He seems to be saying that the 'download' is the outcome of children growing up in unbalanced homes. Most children do best with the love and guidance of both parents, a father and a mother. A father figure, hard, strong, secure and a mother figure, soft, gentle and yielding who are present in their lives can help create a balanced individuals who are capable of loving others. Single parents have mastered both roles in some cases it's just that when there's something lacking, the childs' development suffers. Someone could be in the same room with you and not really be present in the childs' world. More than anything kids just need to be loved and guided by both parents. That's not to say that this love and support can't come from others or from an extended family, ideally tho, each child needs to receive both types of love it takes a village to raise a child!! Marry me 2day and 2night we'll make love until the world stops turning | |
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Spanky said: "UPLOAD: A CHILD WITH NO FATHER
DOWNLOAD: NO RESPECT 4 AUTHORITY UPLOAD: A CHILD WITH NO MOTHER DOWNLOAD: A HARD TIME SHOWING LOVE" Do these four lines imply that having no father or mother are bad things? In many of Prince's recordings he encourages challenging the status quo, questioning authority. As for a hard time showing love, I can't speak for Prince, but I myself have a hard time showing love and my mother was there for me since birth and still is. Showing love is hard because it is so hard to trust others because humans are inherently flawed. Thoughts? (in any case, this song is one of my favorites. Although the entire album is a gem. If any other artist released this as their debut, they would win ten grammys and be heralded as the next Prince.) It's truly a wonderful song. It's like Marvin Gaye, Jimi Hendrix, and Bob Seager rolled into one neat package. As far as those lyrics go, like all of Prince's political or social commentaries, it's an oversimplification of the human condition mixed with his own prejudices, religious, and political beliefs. There is some truth to what Prince is saying only with regards that single parent homes are statistically more likely to raise children with problems, but Prince's solution isn't a political one. He's not advocating social programs that help nor community programs that help. He's not even saying (other what can be inferred from his statements) that the solution is to runoff and remarry. He's saying that God is the key to all the problems stated in the song. Colonized mind is a gospel song cloaked in a thin veil of an American political folk song, materialized as a soulful love song. It's a beautiful mess. I personally ignore the meaning behind this song because the music is so great, but Prince's ability to commit to reason isn't. | |
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. [Edited 1/1/10 17:42pm] ..She's Just A Baby..but she's my lady..my loveR..my only friend!..true love that will last!..PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND..WHAT SHE SEES IN AN OLDER MAN..they never stop 2 think that maybe i'm what she's looking 4..THEY NEVER TAKE THE TIME..2 look in her mind | |
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It isn't absolute. It's general. Don't take it at face value. Like poetry or other types of art, just because Prince isn't singing about you doesn't make it not true or true for that matter. ..."holding someone is truly believing" | |
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SCARLETTPUZY said: I have unfortunatley lost both of my parents at a very early age...and the impact doesnt really hit you until you graduate from highschool, and on to college, get married, and most of all have kids of your own..you want to share these experiences with your Mother and father..there is no love like the love of your mother..ever...4 a time i was lost..during my early years..and i did have a lack of respect, just due to the fact that i felt like it was me against the world..I lost touch with my spirituality time and time again..Prince's influence over me, lit a match, and cursed the darkness soo many times..the night my mother died..i sat in a dark room and played Power Fantastic over and over..and cried my eyes out..
Soo in a god awful situation, you can be a healer or a manipulater... there are those who have no parents, and turn out to not care about anyone or anything..and go about destroying everything in there path..more than ever there are children being raised by children.. or having parents that are more like friends..that dont enforce any type of Pride or sense of respect. These type of children get sent out to war..and are the easiest to influence, to end up in gangs, abused, ..and soo the vicious cycle continues..they are the product of society.. Sorry to hear about your loss, and I was also going to mention how it takes a circle of people to contribute to the healthy growth of a child. Accepting everyone 4 where they are, as well as their circumstances. "The Lion Sleeps Tonight... | |
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I have a unique relationship with my parents. It is somewhat superficial. Some people can claim to know you, and at the same time never really listen to what you are saying. I love my parents dearly and I am closer with my father.
With all relationships, both people have to be willing to explore the unfolding your heart goes through during your life. Time spent with someone is very important...Intimacy is what every individual longs for.  "The Lion Sleeps Tonight... | |
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Tame said: I have a unique relationship with my parents. It is somewhat superficial. Some people can claim to know you, and at the same time never really listen to what you are saying. I love my parents dearly and I am closer with my father.
With all relationships, both people have to be willing to explore the unfolding your heart goes through during your life. Time spent with someone is very important...Intimacy is what every individual longs for. the root of all of us wants 2 love and be loved in return. Thank you for your care..i was most closest 2 my father as well.. over time i have created a family of friends..whom i love with all my heart.. Thank u  Marry me 2day and 2night we'll make love until the world stops turning | |
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My mom died when I was 5 and my dad wasn't around much. I don't have respect for authority (I live by my own rules), but I don't think I have a hard time showing love. |
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moderatorMilitant said: My mom died when I was 5 and my dad wasn't around much. I don't have respect for authority (I live by my own rules), but I don't think I have a hard time showing love.
you made it simple Marry me 2day and 2night we'll make love until the world stops turning | |
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I enjoy 'A Colonized Mind' as much or more than any cut he's ever made. Musically, and phonetically, that is. He uses the right words at the right time, with the right inflection.
I'm not so impressed with the meaning and intent behind the words, as I am by the sonic structure, if this makes any sense. Nice thread. | |
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mzkqueen03 said: Spanky said: "UPLOAD: A CHILD WITH NO FATHER
DOWNLOAD: NO RESPECT 4 AUTHORITY UPLOAD: A CHILD WITH NO MOTHER DOWNLOAD: A HARD TIME SHOWING LOVE" Do these four lines imply that having no father or mother are bad things? ..ok..i can comment on this part..i grew up with my father and mother in the crib till i was 11..then i shipped off 2 mexico 2 go 2 school there..and then my life evolved from there.. ..but from age 10 and be4..i was raised by the streets..cuz my parents had like 100 jobs and they couldn't raise my "properly"...so i'm out hustle'in and trying 2 survive the concrete-jungle..plus i'm trying 2 understand i'm a girl not a boy..but since my dad was only around when i got in trouble..i used 2 get in trouble on purpose 2 get his attention..even if it meant me getting my ass-whooped-out-of-me-literally!!...so i grew 2 test authority..2 NOT RESPECT IT.. ..my mama would see my dad beat-me-out-my-mind..me a girl..she didn't care..cuz she l-o-v-ed my dad so much..she didn't care about me physically...so i grew up 2 hate alot..i had a hard time showing L-O-V-E.. ..not until i turned 22yrs old was when i started 2 get a hold on my life..cuz i was bad..i mean i was doing criminal-minded-things... ..but then i woke up on L-I-F-E.. ...fear none of those things which thou shalt suffer..behold..the devil shall cast some of you into prision..that ye may be tried..and ye shall have tribulation 10 days..be thou faithful unto death...and i will give thee A CROWN OF LIFE...Revelation 2:10.. ..mzsexybaby'I AM ALPHA AND OMEGA..THE BEGINNING AND THE END..THE 1ST AND THE LAST'  keep your head up mzsexybaby!! keep doin what u are doin!! Marry me 2day and 2night we'll make love until the world stops turning | |
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I did not grow up with a father in the house, I was raised by my aunt who consequenlty was married several times while I was growing up, I was very rebellious because of this. I do not know my real father he stepped out on my mother when he found out about my twin sister and I. Prince is right,it can affect you in some negative ways without both parents in a house as your growing up, but I have learned as a adult, that I have a father (Jesus) who was always there for me, from the beginning, and loves me very much. Many of times I prayed as a child when I was feeling down and he answered all my prayers, now that's true fatherly love. | |
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I think Prince usually expresses his own thoughts in his songs and does not care about how others may interpret the meaning of his songs. I don't think he means that kids that have no father or mother as a bad thing. Maybe he is talking about himself having a hard time showing love. I have a hard time believing that Prince does not know how to love, he seems to know how to express himself in song.  | |
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understanding is the first step to healing and what you don't want to reflect in yourself/life. It could go either way. Will history repeat itself? It may for awhile, but when understanding steps in with grace we can walk through a new way of life! Free from our past - thank the lawd!  | |
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I think Prince's assessment, albeit a sad truth, is correct. There are just some things only a family unit can give a child. The stronger the family unit the more solid the child's foundation will be. | |
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. [Edited 1/1/10 17:42pm] ..She's Just A Baby..but she's my lady..my loveR..my only friend!..true love that will last!..PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND..WHAT SHE SEES IN AN OLDER MAN..they never stop 2 think that maybe i'm what she's looking 4..THEY NEVER TAKE THE TIME..2 look in her mind | |
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. [Edited 1/1/10 17:42pm] ..She's Just A Baby..but she's my lady..my loveR..my only friend!..true love that will last!..PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND..WHAT SHE SEES IN AN OLDER MAN..they never stop 2 think that maybe i'm what she's looking 4..THEY NEVER TAKE THE TIME..2 look in her mind | |
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this is one of my favorites, I love the lyrics, u take it how u want to take it, thats whats so cool about the music. U just have to get it to get it...lol Without God its just the blind leading the Blind....Total Jam IMO Love is whatever u want it 2 b | |
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SCARLETTPUZY said: I have unfortunatley lost both of my parents at a very early age...and the impact doesnt really hit you until you graduate from highschool, and on to college, get married, and most of all have kids of your own..you want to share these experiences with your Mother and father..there is no love like the love of your mother..ever...4 a time i was lost..during my early years..and i did have a lack of respect, just due to the fact that i felt like it was me against the world..I lost touch with my spirituality time and time again..Prince's influence over me, lit a match, and cursed the darkness soo many times..the night my mother died..i sat in a dark room and played Power Fantastic over and over..and cried my eyes out..
Soo in a god awful situation, you can be a healer or a manipulater... there are those who have no parents, and turn out to not care about anyone or anything..and go about destroying everything in there path..more than ever there are children being raised by children.. or having parents that are more like friends..that dont enforce any type of Pride or sense of respect. These type of children get sent out to war..and are the easiest to influence, to end up in gangs, abused, ..and soo the vicious cycle continues..they are the product of society.. Sorry about your loss Scarlett. Even though I don't know you, I am really feeling you. I am close to both my parents, and I sometimes take them for granted, which is totally wrong. I'm glad that P's music was able to help. | |
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I was 13 when my mother left me in a two bedroom apartment for 3 days while she chased a genie in a glass bottle only to return 17 years later. My father wasn't there from the beginning. Out of my whole 40 year old life I've spent 18 months of my exsistance in his presense. I have had some problems in the past with authority, trust, saying things that I shouldn't and being a loving person. Maybe having both of my parents would have made a difference, maybe not. That was a long time ago and things are good for me now. I have learned to love by accepting love. I have learned to trust from being trusted. I have respect for others becuase I should. I'm all the things to my family that my father and mother weren't to mine. I have two kids and a wife and I can't ever imagine leaving them. These are my choices. Others without parents have to make thiers. Hopefully they listen to the voice on thier right shoulder whispering compassion and love, and not the one shouting pain and anger. [Edited 6/15/09 15:28pm] | |
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one can grow up with both parents but still feel isolated from emotional contact cause if the parents don't show love the way u c it on tv etc can make a child bewildered and cut off from the world. thus they go out searching 4 the love that was missing but come across the coldness of the world due 2 the people they have met who don't show love or shall we say "healthy" love in return. man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81 | |
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It's just a song. Who is Prince to speak he had 2 parents so what does he know? | |
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Imago said: Spanky said: "UPLOAD: A CHILD WITH NO FATHER
DOWNLOAD: NO RESPECT 4 AUTHORITY UPLOAD: A CHILD WITH NO MOTHER DOWNLOAD: A HARD TIME SHOWING LOVE" Do these four lines imply that having no father or mother are bad things? In many of Prince's recordings he encourages challenging the status quo, questioning authority. As for a hard time showing love, I can't speak for Prince, but I myself have a hard time showing love and my mother was there for me since birth and still is. Showing love is hard because it is so hard to trust others because humans are inherently flawed. Thoughts? (in any case, this song is one of my favorites. Although the entire album is a gem. If any other artist released this as their debut, they would win ten grammys and be heralded as the next Prince.) It's truly a wonderful song. It's like Marvin Gaye, Jimi Hendrix, and Bob Seager rolled into one neat package. As far as those lyrics go, like all of Prince's political or social commentaries, it's an oversimplification of the human condition mixed with his own prejudices, religious, and political beliefs. There is some truth to what Prince is saying only with regards that single parent homes are statistically more likely to raise children with problems, but Prince's solution isn't a political one. He's not advocating social programs that help nor community programs that help. He's not even saying (other what can be inferred from his statements) that the solution is to runoff and remarry. He's saying that God is the key to all the problems stated in the song. Colonized mind is a gospel song cloaked in a thin veil of an American political folk song, materialized as a soulful love song. It's a beautiful mess. I personally ignore the meaning behind this song because the music is so great, but Prince's ability to commit to reason isn't. It is a wonderful song and I agree a "beautiful mess" too. I can also seem to enjoy the music of most of his songs that I might not agree with politically/spiritually. I can enjoy a film that deals with subject matters that I don't always relate to. Prince can enjoy Bill Mahr even though I'm sure he doesn't agree with a lot of his opinions. | |
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