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Thread started 06/04/09 7:43am

Marrk

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Petition for Prince to remaster his 1st Ten Years.

'For You' to 'Lovesexy.' PLEEEAAAASE! pray

Please sign on this thread!

Signed, Marrk! biggrin
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Reply #1 posted 06/04/09 7:48am

udo

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Marrk said:

'For You' to 'Lovesexy.' PLEEEAAAASE! pray

Please sign on this thread!

Signed, Marrk! biggrin

I do sign but mr P won't do it.
Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill... If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry.
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Reply #2 posted 06/04/09 7:51am

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udo said:

Marrk said:

'For You' to 'Lovesexy.' PLEEEAAAASE! pray

Please sign on this thread!

Signed, Marrk! biggrin

I do sign but mr P won't do it.


You never know, showing him some love might change his mind! lol
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Reply #3 posted 06/04/09 8:31am

ernestsewell

Marrk said:

udo said:


I do sign but mr P won't do it.


You never know, showing him some love might change his mind! lol


Nope. He hates his fans, AND if he remastered the old stuff, he'd edit the shit out of it....LITERALLY. That'd make things like Dirty Mind a cassingle at best. He'd resing "Sexuality" as "Spirituality" on the Controversy album, and can you imagine the political hubbub that "Ronnie Talk 2 Russia" would become? "Do Me, Baby" would become "Save Me, Jesus". There's a place for everything, but Prince remastering the old shit ain't it.
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Reply #4 posted 06/04/09 8:44am

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Prince has no say so in that he doesn't own those masters yet....
eye will ALWAYS think of prince like a "ACT OF GOD"! N another realm. eye mean of all people who might of been aliens or angels.if found out that prince wasn't of this earth, eye would not have been that surprised. R.I.P. prince
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Reply #5 posted 06/04/09 9:06am

ernestsewell

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Prince has no say so in that he doesn't own those masters yet....


He does have a say. Part of his parting contract w/ WB was that he has final say over anything they release. It's why songs like "Erotic City" were removed from Ultimate before it was released, and also why the original track list was chronological, but then divided up between album versions and B-sides/12"ers. He could call WB any day and say "Let's get the remasters going." But he plays dumb with it in public and says he "wonders why" no one has started to remaster those albums, as if his hands are tied because he "doesn't own Purple Rain". He might not own it, but he has some say so in things, IF he chose to exercise that. WB ain't stupid. They know a remastered set of some albums would sell well, and they'd probably put a huge marketing campaign behind it to assure sales beyond the 200,000 core fan base purchases. But he's such a brat, why bother. It'll take him dying before anything great comes of those old albums, or the Vault.
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Reply #6 posted 06/04/09 9:09am

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Signed, Pandurito

The Blu-Ray and DVD Prince Archives Vol. 1 1978-1988 box sets contain ten discs that span the first decade of the artist’s career.” Included in these years are previously unreleased songs, outtakes and live tracks .

Blu-ray audio is presented in ultra-high resolution 24-bit/192 kHz stereo PCM state-of-the-art master quality sound.

Audio in the DVD edition includes ten discs presented in high resolution 24-bit/96 kHz PCM audiophile-quality sound.

The CD edition is 10 discs presented in standard resolution 16-bit/44 kHz stereo PCM CD quality sound.
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Reply #7 posted 06/04/09 9:28am

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ernestsewell said:

Marrk said:



You never know, showing him some love might change his mind! lol


Nope. He hates his fans, AND if he remastered the old stuff, he'd edit the shit out of it....LITERALLY. That'd make things like Dirty Mind a cassingle at best. He'd resing "Sexuality" as "Spirituality" on the Controversy album, and can you imagine the political hubbub that "Ronnie Talk 2 Russia" would become? "Do Me, Baby" would become "Save Me, Jesus". There's a place for everything, but Prince remastering the old shit ain't it.


Unfortunately strange but true.
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Reply #8 posted 06/04/09 9:29am

ernestsewell

peter430044 said:

ernestsewell said:



Nope. He hates his fans, AND if he remastered the old stuff, he'd edit the shit out of it....LITERALLY. That'd make things like Dirty Mind a cassingle at best. He'd resing "Sexuality" as "Spirituality" on the Controversy album, and can you imagine the political hubbub that "Ronnie Talk 2 Russia" would become? "Do Me, Baby" would become "Save Me, Jesus". There's a place for everything, but Prince remastering the old shit ain't it.


Unfortunately strange but true.


And I hate that it's true. I think about Jeff Lynne, founder of ELO, who has remastered those old albums, expanded them w/ bonus tracks, and bumped the artwork up a notch.. Great sets, and not a lot on the price tag either. Hell, even the MJ expanded sets were pretty fucking amazing.
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Reply #9 posted 06/04/09 9:43am

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Sorry to steal this thread but I guess we have to look for non-USA-linked countries (i.e.: no MPAA/RIAA/etc-influenced (C) laws) to remaster (from old issues, sadly) and press the stuff?
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Reply #10 posted 06/04/09 10:03am

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udo said:

Sorry to steal this thread but I guess we have to look for non-USA-linked countries (i.e.: no MPAA/RIAA/etc-influenced (C) laws) to remaster (from old issues, sadly) and press the stuff?


I don't think that's the kind of remastering we really desire. Having an outside entity do it would just be "make the discs louder". This would be okay... but what really is needed is for Prince to go in and not only make the CDs louder, but make sure the mix sounds perfect. Everything up to Graffiti Bridge needs that treatment.

What was the deal with that anyways?? Sign O' The Times is practically silent compared to Purple Rain, Controversy, and especially Gold (loudest disc ever? Yes.)
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Reply #11 posted 06/04/09 10:07am

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We're thinking that these will be remastered and released later this year in Japan.
http://prince.org/msg/7/309365
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Reply #12 posted 06/04/09 10:13am

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I really think fans should ban together and not give Prince anymore money unless we get some quality material. His albums are his own and whether I like them or not, is not really what i'm talking about. But paying $77 for stuff we already have is just BS. If we stopped funding his KISS wannabe merch, he would realize he needs us more than we need him. But of course, I'm talking to wall here.
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Reply #13 posted 06/04/09 10:27am

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honestly, all they really need is to do a new digital transfer to disc for most of them and turn them up a little, but not so much that there's clipping. and please no compression added. i'm perfectly happy with the job done on "Ultimate" and would much prefer this to anyone going in and fooling around with the mixes, or worse, Prince going in and editing all of the "Prince" out of it.
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Reply #14 posted 06/04/09 10:29am

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errant said:

honestly, all they really need is to do a new digital transfer to disc for most of them and turn them up a little, but not so much that there's clipping. and please no compression added. i'm perfectly happy with the job done on "Ultimate" and would much prefer this to anyone going in and fooling around with the mixes, or worse, Prince going in and editing all of the "Prince" out of it.

I can't take you seriously with that avatar neutral
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Reply #15 posted 06/04/09 10:34am

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PANDURITO said:

errant said:

honestly, all they really need is to do a new digital transfer to disc for most of them and turn them up a little, but not so much that there's clipping. and please no compression added. i'm perfectly happy with the job done on "Ultimate" and would much prefer this to anyone going in and fooling around with the mixes, or worse, Prince going in and editing all of the "Prince" out of it.

I can't take you seriously with that avatar neutral



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Reply #16 posted 06/04/09 10:38am

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daPrettyman said:

We're thinking that these will be remastered and released later this year in Japan.
http://prince.org/msg/7/309365

Are those really remasters and not just reissues?
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Reply #17 posted 06/04/09 10:38am

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errant said:

PANDURITO said:


I can't take you seriously with that avatar neutral



ditto sigh

Oh, but I agree with your words nod Something good is better than nothing.

I'm buying many remasters from the 60s to the 80s lately though and many things can be done right nod
I'd even accept new 5.1 remixes whistling
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Reply #18 posted 06/04/09 10:39am

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udo said:

daPrettyman said:

We're thinking that these will be remastered and released later this year in Japan.
http://prince.org/msg/7/309365

Are those really remasters and not just reissues?

We're not sure. However, from the way the description is, the cd would be reissued in a new format. There is an article or 2 on the thread.
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Reply #19 posted 06/04/09 11:10am

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billymeade said:

udo said:

Sorry to steal this thread but I guess we have to look for non-USA-linked countries (i.e.: no MPAA/RIAA/etc-influenced (C) laws) to remaster (from old issues, sadly) and press the stuff?


I don't think that's the kind of remastering we really desire. Having an outside entity do it would just be "make the discs louder". This would be okay... but what really is needed is for Prince to go in and not only make the CDs louder, but make sure the mix sounds perfect. Everything up to Graffiti Bridge needs that treatment.

What was the deal with that anyways?? Sign O' The Times is practically silent compared to Purple Rain, Controversy, and especially Gold (loudest disc ever? Yes.)



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Reply #20 posted 06/05/09 1:07am

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Thanks for (nearly) everybody's lack of interest. What a crap set of fans he has. neutral
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Reply #21 posted 06/05/09 1:32am

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Marrk said:

Thanks for (nearly) everybody's lack of interest. What a crap set of fans he has. neutral

Come on Marrk, of course this is what everybody would like. We have had countless threads over the years about when Prince remasters will be released. I think Prince knows by now but having said that he does not seem to like "wishlists" or "ultimatums" from us (paraphrasing the song Love there)
Just somewhere in the middle,
Not too good and not too bad.
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Reply #22 posted 06/05/09 1:37am

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Don't be BLIND my FRIENDS....u all know that this desire from the FANBASE will NOT C THE LIGHT OF DAY!!


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Reply #23 posted 06/05/09 2:17am

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Would be great if this happened.....doesn't seem likely though.
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Reply #24 posted 06/05/09 2:48am

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I don't think that Prince himself should be doing the remastering. Many of his own releases from the past 15 years have been too clipped, too loud and flat sounding. Get someone like Bernie Grundman, who mastered Prince's original vinyl LP's and did such a great job on the MJ remasters... Or get Steve Hoffman, or even Susan Rogers, to do the remastering. A bunch of clipped/distorted remasters would not be much better than what we have now... if remastering is going to be done, it should be done right.
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Reply #25 posted 06/05/09 3:35am

SoulAlive

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Reply #26 posted 06/05/09 3:37am

SoulAlive

ernestsewell said:

peter430044 said:



Unfortunately strange but true.


And I hate that it's true. I think about Jeff Lynne, founder of ELO, who has remastered those old albums, expanded them w/ bonus tracks, and bumped the artwork up a notch.. Great sets, and not a lot on the price tag either. Hell, even the MJ expanded sets were pretty fucking amazing.



I have those ELO remasters and they truly are amazing.Especially the limited edition 'Out Of The Blue' CD,which even includes a cut-out spaceship,just like the original vinyl release in 1977.
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Reply #27 posted 06/05/09 4:08am

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Well I remember talking to Mr.Hayes before a show around 2000 and he said they were rerecording all the old albums. I bet they're all finished and Prince had no immediate intention to release them.

In 2013, 35 years after the release of for you will be when Prince regains ownership.Each album will return to him in chronological order of the original release. As far as remastered versions. I really doubt he wants WB to reap the rewards of his music remastered,because they will definitely sell. So if we do eventually see a remastering of the early stuff, I bet it won't be until it's in his ownership.
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Reply #28 posted 06/05/09 4:15am

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sunlite said:

Well I remember talking to Mr.Hayes before a show around 2000 and he said they were rerecording all the old albums. I bet they're all finished and Prince had no immediate intention to release them.

In 2013, 35 years after the release of for you will be when Prince regains ownership.Each album will return to him in chronological order of the original release. As far as remastered versions. I really doubt he wants WB to reap the rewards of his music remastered,because they will definitely sell. So if we do eventually see a remastering of the early stuff, I bet it won't be until it's in his ownership.


rerecording? Please, keep those in the Vault.
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Reply #29 posted 06/05/09 4:31am

SoulAlive

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sunlite said:

Well I remember talking to Mr.Hayes before a show around 2000 and he said they were rerecording all the old albums. I bet they're all finished and Prince had no immediate intention to release them.

In 2013, 35 years after the release of for you will be when Prince regains ownership.Each album will return to him in chronological order of the original release. As far as remastered versions. I really doubt he wants WB to reap the rewards of his music remastered,because they will definitely sell. So if we do eventually see a remastering of the early stuff, I bet it won't be until it's in his ownership.


rerecording? Please, keep those in the Vault.


I agree.I won't buy any of these albums if they are re-recorded.Can you imagine how ridiculous an album like 'Dirty Mind' would sound if he re-records it and changes the lyrics? No,thank you.
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