itsjustaroundthecorner said: great thread
i heard that the 'girl on the seesaw' was AMY CARTER. thanx my best 1 so far | |
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SomewhereHereOnEarth said: eyewishuheaven said: Either way, I'm so glad that this artwork was chosen for the final album cover. The original was too literal, and butt-ugly, to boot!
what did the original artwork look like?? Music washes away from the soul the dust of everyday life. ~Berthold Auerbach | |
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itsjustaroundthecorner said: great thread
i heard that the 'girl on the seesaw' was AMY CARTER. Is that Amy Carter as in Jimmy Carters daughter?? My name is Naz!!! and I have a windmill where my brain is supposed to be.....
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Nikademus said: Well, there's Madonna, Michael Jackson and 2 of his brothers (Randy and Marlon, I do believe), and Emanuel Lewis. The others elude me...
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SomewhereHereOnEarth said: eyewishuheaven said: Either way, I'm so glad that this artwork was chosen for the final album cover. The original was too literal, and butt-ugly, to boot!
what did the original artwork look like?? Scroll back 2 the first page, someone already posted it | |
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jdcxc said: OldFriends4Sale said: Sheila E's band toured with Prince & the Revolution on the PR tour(opening act) Mico was the guitarist for Sheila E along with Susie(keyboards), Eddie M(sax) Miko wasn't an official band member for Prince until SOTT he was a touring/recording guitarist 4 Sheila E and the Family he was pulled in at the disbanding of the Family the way:Jerome,Eric Leeds & Susannah were pulled in, for the tour. He played guitar on Mountains. But he was a part of Sheila's band officially for the Sheila E album He was definately a part of the Prince camp early on like 83 but via Sheila E. (they were high school friends) and became friends with Prince then, through an interview he said he was hanging out at Prince's house when Prince let him get a peak at the ATWIAD album. Eddie M. Jill Jones, engineer Susan Rogers & Miko Weaver this is like 83/84 Wow, that first picture is cool and rare. Jill Jones looks so young and cute. Anymore studio shots? I don't think I've ever seen Susan Rogers in the mix. Any pictures of her and Prince in the studio? Please, baby, baby, Please! I'll see what I have ha I think the girl with the balloon is Susan Rogers [Edited 6/2/09 5:54am] | |
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ernestsewell said: blackguitaristz said: Oh, you're on the same page NOW. You weren't BEFORE OldFriends posted that pic. You were swearing up and down that Miko wasn't connected to P untill 86. Wrong. All joy was saying was that Miko would play in P's band ,The Revolution, during the PR tour wich was 84/85. Which is true. Anybody that actually went to the shows would have seen that. What u were swearing up and down about Miko, that wasn't even what joy was talking about. But there u go again, trying to go against what somebody was saying. That's what I was just saying in the other post. You come across like you're this major ass authoritive on everything when you're obviously not. MANY people on here know the facts, i.e. dates, etc. about stuff. You're too quick on the draw when you really don't even have the bullets in your pistol. If you're going to be so quick to come at somebody in the manner that u do, it's best that you know what you're talking about first... Dude, if you're going to ride my dick so much today, you could at least take me to dinner first. Ha ha ha... in your dreams 'dude', I'm the one he's taking to 'dinner'... | |
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blackguitaristz said:[quote] blackguitaristz said: ernestsewell said: You realize most of the people on there have to do with the characters mentioned in the songs, right? The old lady who is crying. The man in the park. The black child holding an AMERICAn flag. The girl wearing a raspberry colored beret. "The girl on the see saw is laughing....." There's two nods to a tambourine. There's also, of course, the ladder. There's also what could be daisies in the yard area. As far as the people: Prince is obvious, as is the Doctor. I think Wendy is standing, girding her skirt around her. Lisa is playing the violin. I almost see Sheila E.'s face in the red headed girl eating an ice cream. She wore see-thru outfits like that with strategically placed sequin patches during the Purple Rain tour. [qoute] I think this album cover is cool besides it evoking The Beatles Magical Mystery Tour and Sgt Pepper, the main thing I've always dug about it is that there are no definite answers about who a few of the members are. I remember when the album first came out, some of my friends who were fans of P just like I was, we all picked certain characters to be members of the band. They were all different choices. Meaning the figure I picked to be Brown Mark, someone else said it was Prince, etc. My feeling all along was that P did not want it easy for anyone to spot him in the painting. IF there is a character that represents P at all. Some are obvious....Matt is right up front with the doctor coat and mask. To his upper left is Bobby in all black. Lisa is sitting on the ground playing a violin, although in the face, it looks NOTHING like Lisa. But I believe it's her. I believe Wendy is the little girl on the swing. Brown Mark is the figure who's sitting down playing P's guitar, wearing the cloud suit. Now MOST people believe THAT figure to be Prince. But the profile of the figure's face, AND the body shape is that of Mark Brown, NOT Prince. He's just wearing P's Rasberry Beret video outfit and he's playing P's guitar. But look into the face and the build, that is Brown Mark. I don't believe P would place himself wearing an outfit THAT obvious and doing what that figure is doing. It's TOO blatant, TOO obvious. I've always believed it was Brown Mark because it LOOKS like Brown Mark wearing Prince's clothes. The woman with the skirt and who's sticking her finger through a hole is Clara Bow. That's taken from a famous picture of the actress where she's striking that exact pose. [Edited 6/1/09 0:20am] I always thought that Michael Jackson is in this painting. Sticking with the theme of The Beatles Sgt Pepper album cover where they had famous people and where they had "Welcome The Rolling Stones" written on a little girl doll and The Stones returned the favor on their Satanic Majesties Request album cover, Staying with that, I think P did that with Michael. I always believed that the figure who's eating the ice cream is Michael. The figure is posed EXACTLY like Michael is on the cover of Thriller. And in the face, it actually looks like Michael with a mustache. The clothes is indeed an outfit that Sheila E wore on the PR tour and that is a dig at Michael known for being "feminine". (Like P himself should talk). But yeah, I always believed that figure represents Michael Jackson. Michael was P's known compettion and chief rival just like The Beatles were to The Stones. IF P is represented at ALL in the picture, I think it's the old black man with the tear in his eye. Which could represent P "feeling old" or that he has "aged" emotionally and spiritually. That "all of this" has taken a toll on him. "For The Tears In Your Eyes" mantra but in reverse. The tear could represent that he has been hurt by the bad press and from being misjudged by the We Are The World event. And that also he's an "old soul" weary from it all. He did have his manager tell the press that after the PR tour, P was "retiring" from music. And that he was going to look for the ladder. Just my take on it all. That's why I dig the album cover because it's open to interpretation. [Edited 6/1/09 0:41am] Wow, I can SEE that about MJ, now that's funny! And I love the idea of the old man being Prince, that he's aged emotionally and spiritually, that makes a lot of sense because none of the others really look like him to me. And btw I think the guy in black, with the white face, looks more like Gary Numan than Edward Scissorhands Interesting thread! | |
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Jeffiner said: ernestsewell said: Dude, if you're going to ride my dick so much today, you could at least take me to dinner first. Ha ha ha... in your dreams 'dude', I'm the one he's taking to 'dinner'... Hey Jennifer, I've ALREADY taken u to dinner. SynthiaRose said "I'm in love with blackguitaristz. Especially when he talks about Hendrix."
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blackguitaristz said: Jeffiner said: Ha ha ha... in your dreams 'dude', I'm the one he's taking to 'dinner'... Hey Jennifer, I've ALREADY taken u to dinner. Yep... best 'dinners' I've ever had... | |
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Jeffiner said: blackguitaristz said: Hey Jennifer, I've ALREADY taken u to dinner. Yep... best 'dinners' I've ever had... Shhhhh!! SynthiaRose said "I'm in love with blackguitaristz. Especially when he talks about Hendrix."
nammie "What BGZ says I believe. I have the biggest crush on him." http://ccoshea19.googlepa...ssanctuary http://ccoshea19.googlepages.com | |
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Between Amy Carter and Michael Jackson, I'm still shaking my head in disbelief to see new things in something I was obsessed with from day one and thought I knew everything about. Incredible. Oh, and seeing a picture of Susan Rogers, who I've never laid eyes on before!! I get the feeling a LOT of us haven't!
I also remember thinking that the supposed Wendy character was actually Susannah, but I don't recall why I thought that. Here in Minneapolis, at the time Prince was with Susannah a serious rumour was going around for a while that they were secretly married. Was that rumour something heard globally or just locally? Just for gits and shiggles, I cleaned up the beautiful scan of the album cover just a little bit. That seam running down the middle was killing me. Fixed up that little "alignment" problem with the slut on her back. And I made it more square as if the whole picture was the front of an album cover: [Edited 6/3/09 1:06am] break THE purple GoD | |
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ATWIAD isn't one of my favorite Prince albums,but I love the artwork on the cover.It totally captures the feel/mood of the album itself. | |
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First off, none of this came from me. All of it is strait out of uptown #37 spring of 1999. This is an article written by David J. Magdziarz.
"Doug Henders was asked to create the cover art for Around the World in A day shortly before Christmas 1984. He was given a brief 15-point outline from Prince with some ideas of what he wanted graphically. "The process of creating the cover work and the rock trip (Purple Rain tour) itself were very gruelling," says Henders. "I think that's reflected in the melancholic rendering of the painting." For some of the images, Henders snapped Polaroid photos of Revolution band members and people close to the band. Then he slightly altered the face or real-life features for the painting. "Most of the figures on the cover are characters in the songs, but I think some of the people Prince wanted are parts of himself, so they're all of a piece and somewhat autobiographical," Henders explains. "The little puppy in the picture was added simply because Princ got himself a dog while on the road." One Plane Hender's cover scene is depicted in an almost cartoon-like style that is somwhat naive in its simplicity. The bright colours and lack of any real modelling of the figures gives the cover a one-dimensional appearance, with all the figures and the surrounding landscape existing on one plane. The scene is obviously intended as that of Paisley Park itself, and many of the characters are inspired by the lyrics of the song of the same name. There is "the woman whose husband caused her so many tears" (far left), the man who cries "as the city condems where he lives" (far right), as well as "the girl on the seesaw." The woman from "rasberry beret" also makes and appearance; holding an apple, she is like the modern-day Eve in Prince's hippie style paradise. The clown with the unpleasant expression is not a character from any of the songs on the album. He stands next to the small naked child holding the American flag, and it appears that he is juggling not only a red and purple ball, but a stylised globe as well, which may suggest some sort of connection to "America," the song with the most directly political theme on the album. Another unusual aspect of this figure is his black and white striped costume, which suggest a prisoner's uniform. The dark airplane to the far left also injects a somewhat ominous element into the scene. In contrast, the naked child holding the flag embodies a sense of innocence that is strangly lacking in the clown. Another child figure, in the form of a bare-footed boy holding onto a balloon, which is carrying him aloft, appears on the transparent sticker attached to the shrink wrap of (the original version of) the album. Again there is a sense of innocence and wonder expressed through the boy who was has found his own way of travelling around the world. Band Members Concentrated to the right of the cover are several figures loosely based on Prince's band. They include one in surgical garb who was obviously inspired by Matt Fink (holding a small ladder), Two women who seem inspired by Wendy and Lisa(one of whom, the Lisa figure, is holding a tambourine, with another tambourine one step below her) and a blon-haired man, most likely Brown Mark, who is playing Princ's white cloud guitar, while wearing a cloud suit. The half reclining figure with the bright red hair seems to be based on Prince. The figure is androgynous, with painted fingernails and wearing what appears to be a sheer bodystocking with lace at the wrists and covering over the chest area, which suggests the female element, and a prominent moustache for the male. Instead of a microphone, however, this character holds an ice cream cone, which is in keeping with the generally carefree mood of the album and the cover art. There are three figures in the upper right corner clothed in some sort of hooded cloak over a white robe. The two figures on the ends appear to be female, and the colour of their cloaks is purple; the centre figure, in a white cloak, could be male or female. The clothing of these figures, their gestures, and the fact that their position at the highest level of the stairs on which the band members are seated or standing are all suggestive of the spiritual. The figure to the left has her hand clutched to her heart, while the other two have a hand raised as if in bestowing a blessing or testifying the truth (although it is their left hand that is raised, not the traditional right). The figure to the right also has a dove perched on her right arm. These heavenly backup singers might have been intended as a personification of the general sense of spirituality that Prince is trying to convey with this album. Dichotomies The multi-coloured landscape in the background is in the form of a naked woman's body. Given that much of the album is concerned with spiritual values, this motif is suggestive of a return to mother earth herself. The "body" of this earth figure is made of small patches of various colours as if she were both comprised of and the source of all things. At the same time, this fanciful motif also creates a feeling as if the entire world were a magical place, endowed with the warmth and senuality of the female body. The whole scene is dominated by a ladder rising up from a pool of water and extending into the heavens. That the ladder should arise from a pool of water suggests that this is the pool of purity and wisdom that leads to spiritual awakening as symbolised by the ladder. Further, the notion of the ladder as the central point which goes beyond the pairs of opposites of everyday existence and leads both to and from rest to motion, time to eternity, and separation to unity is shown by depicting still water on one side of the ladder, rough water on the other side. Henders says that he wanted to "create some straight dichotomies, using the ladder as the dividing line between the relatively static figures on the right side of the painting and the more chaotic and mysterious-looking people on the left." So again, there is the idea of a modern-day Garden of Eden; such a paradise itself symbolic of the condition of a person in a state of spiritual wholeness, who has gone beyond the dualities of everyday life. The inner cover art consists of an almost luminescent landscape made up of trees of various colours. In that respect, it is almost as if we are seeing a close-up of the variegated landscape figure depicted on the outer cover art. The sky is dominated by a rainbow, which is symbolic of God's love and the higher spiritual state that bridges the higher and lower natures within mankind. | |
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Oh yeah, I know this doesn't really identify who everyone is, but I was reading one of my uptown mags and thought some of you might want to read this. | |
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HAZE03 said: Oh yeah, I know this doesn't really identify who everyone is, but I was reading one of my uptown mags and thought some of you might want to read this.
Ive been looking at the cover and reading about it for 3 days now, and Ive got more questions and doubts about it NOW than when I started! My name is Naz!!! and I have a windmill where my brain is supposed to be.....
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blackguitaristz said: Jeffiner said: Yep... best 'dinners' I've ever had... Shhhhh!! Besides Jen, there's more where that came from! SynthiaRose said "I'm in love with blackguitaristz. Especially when he talks about Hendrix."
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Pat Smear (dude in white between Prince & Wendy), guitarist for the Germs, Nirvana, and the Foo Fighters . | |
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SilverlakePhil said: Pat Smear (dude in white between Prince & Wendy), guitarist for the Germs, Nirvana, and the Foo Fighters . NO WAY! Its is, it is!!! Nice spotting! My name is Naz!!! and I have a windmill where my brain is supposed to be.....
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SilverlakePhil said: Pat Smear (dude in white between Prince & Wendy), guitarist for the Germs, Nirvana, and the Foo Fighters . Wow,seriously? Isn't there another famous person in this video? The girl who hands Prince his guitar at the beginning,isn't she an actress? | |
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blackguitaristz said: blackguitaristz said: Shhhhh!! Besides Jen, there's more where that came from! I know babe... | |
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SoulAlive said: SilverlakePhil said: Pat Smear (dude in white between Prince & Wendy), guitarist for the Germs, Nirvana, and the Foo Fighters . Wow,seriously? Isn't there another famous person in this video? The girl who hands Prince his guitar at the beginning,isn't she an actress? She played Woody's (Woody Harrelson's character) girlfriend on the tv series, Cheers. I think someone mentioned her name earlier in the thread. | |
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ItsOnlyMountains said: SoulAlive said: Wow,seriously? Isn't there another famous person in this video? The girl who hands Prince his guitar at the beginning,isn't she an actress? She played Woody's (Woody Harrelson's character) girlfriend on the tv series, Cheers. I think someone mentioned her name earlier in the thread. No way, Is that "Kelly"? Woody's song to her was great "kellykellykellykellykelly..." [Edited 6/5/09 7:09am] Just somewhere in the middle,
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ItsOnlyMountains said: SoulAlive said: Wow,seriously? Isn't there another famous person in this video? The girl who hands Prince his guitar at the beginning,isn't she an actress? She played Woody's (Woody Harrelson's character) girlfriend on the tv series, Cheers. I think someone mentioned her name earlier in the thread. Thanks. | |
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KeithyT said: ItsOnlyMountains said: She played Woody's (Woody Harrelson's character) girlfriend on the tv series, Cheers. I think someone mentioned her name earlier in the thread. No way is that "Kelly"? Woody's song to her was great "kellykellykellykellykelly..." Jackie Swanson is her name. According to imbd.com Prince wrote a song for her entitled, Palomino Pleasure Ride. (I was googling and found this thread, which disputes that claim but does confirm it was her in the RB video.) . [Edited 6/5/09 7:08am] | |
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