It seems very easy to criticize Prince for not doing this or doing that with his music. I would just like to remind everyone that it is about the music. Just as Van Gogh is just about his paintings. It seems to me that some Prince fans, if they could go back in time, would stand behind Van Gogh's shoulder and tell Van Gogh to paint "Starry Night" red for it will match their couch.
[Edited 5/25/09 12:03pm]

Would Van Gogh charge $77 to view it???

That is a nice paiting U are refering to. Prince is who He is and does as He does...and we love him 4 it.

SquirrelMeat said:

This post is meant to be about the artistic choice of the artist. Not designed to please the seemingly picky and ever changing tastes of the consumer. But, instead an artist exploring who they are and capturing it in their work.

kewlschool said:

But you said you are reminding people its about the music/art. But its Prince that turns his art into commerce. With commerce comes viewpoint. He should accept those views or withdraw.

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[Edited 5/20/09 16:35pm]

SquirrelMeat said:

That is a worthy viewpoint for discussion, perhaps another posting would suit that topic. But, my post was addressing the Fan critics of Prince music wanting Prince to do this or that with his music. (ie typically postings: R&b or Rock or the 80's are better than the 90's stuff that marginalizes Prince's music. etc.)
[Edited 5/25/09 12:03pm]

I would suggest that if there's anyone still confused about Prince and the way he operates after all these yrs...check out this thread: http://prince.org/msg/7/308612
No particular reason for postin this here but oh well

http://prince.org/msg/3/308522

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

lemme guess... an undercover "why all the fan hate thread"?

SquirrelMeat said:

He would or more! and u know it.

the hypercritical tone of Prince on this site existed long b4 the Lotusflower site and its fee. I thought it was too high, i didn't pay it and i kept it moving. separate issues. but yes this site is. he can't win for losing. the number of insatiable, complaining, nostalgic, demanding, judgmental, ungrateful ppl on this site is alarming

Thanks for getting it Datdude. Money separate issue from Art issue.




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SquirrelMeat said:

that's cold

So cold

kewlschool said:

I love "Starry Night" jst the way it is....sorry, my f'n cat popped the letter that comes after "t" off my keyboard.

In his words: Im Satisfied...

SquirrelMeat said:

Maybe he should have, he wouldn't have died broke.

...all i can say instead is...
..oh yeah i'm loaded verbal rap-ability baby..i know u inspire me 2 poetry..so listen while i recite naughty-nothings..that'll WET ur ear-drums...I LIKE 2..i like 2..
...can i make sweet L-O-V-E 2 u baby?..
..JUST LIVING AND A L-O-V-En ...waiting 4 the moment..WHEN U GOT TIME 2 GIVE..and if i can get 2 L-O-V-E u....WHAT'S A TELEFONE BILL?..
..mzsexybaby'CLASSIC'

perhaps this thread should be moved to the positivity, negativity, etc. sticky?

man, do people even read stuff before the just post random crap?
[Edited 5/30/09 5:48am]

lock it down, yes? this thread is nonsense.

SquirrelMeat said:

That's fair enough, Prince should start busking.

japanrocks said:

----- This thread is not about why people hate or love on Prince.
This thread is about artistic choice and how some people would like to tell the painter how to paint his picture. You either like the picture or you don't. But are you hypercritical because it was a water scene and you wanted an abstract?

Constructive criticism is every bit as valuable as praise.

Unfortunately a lot of criticism – including some of my own -- tends to be far more self centered than insightful.

Some of the best advice I’ve ever received was to separate the art for the artist. For all I know Van Gogh might have been a difficult prick much of the time.

But no matter. I don’t have to live with him and I’m not seeking validation or a kindred spirit. I’m eagerly seeking out someone’s unique view of the world that can hopefully add to my own ever-changing landscape.

SquirrelMeat said:

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All artists should be paid for their work. If you had your way, I guess all artist should give away their music or work for the record labels free.

It is ridiculous to expect an artist who is not signed to a label to foot the bill for a website and receive no revenue for the content.

We should be happy that Prince still makes music and does tours. He could've closed up shop ages ago if he wanted to. He has a gift for making music and feels that it's a part of what he's here for. I for one am grateful for every album he's put out. It doesn't mean I loved them all but I appreciate the time and effort that goes into each one. Sometimes when I read the posts here I wonder why people feel that they should dictate how Prince does what he does. You wouldn't want anyone telling you how to create/express something from your heart. I notice how easy it is for people to say what they hate but not what they love.

laurarichardson said:

No one is saying he should do his stuff for free. The topic is discussing whether it's fair to critize the music.

I believe, if you charge for something, you have to be open to potential praise or critism.

When a musician receives rave reviews, you very rarely hear fans asking the critics to stop.

It cuts both ways.

No one is saying he should do his stuff for free. The topic is discussing whether it's fair to critize the music.

I believe, if you charge for something, you have to be open to potential praise or critism.

When a musician receives rave reviews, you very rarely hear fans asking the critics to stop.

It cuts both ways.[/quote]

Let's make this clear I never said that you couldn't, shouldn't, wouldn't critique a work (In this case music). Critiquing and criticizing are two different thought levels. One comes from a place of love and respect, the other from a negative ego perspective with a goal to find fault with such work/person. My point being, if you criticize you have already predetermine the results.
Watch for the contradiction....
Now, that being said, criticizing is a key component to comedy!