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Reply #150 posted 05/12/09 5:46pm

ernestsewell

L4OATheOriginal said:

Sorry but either the mods or the creator of the photo should take it down themself.


I have no plans on removing it. If people can't see the humor in it, then that's on them. I'm still sleepin' okay at night.
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Reply #151 posted 05/12/09 6:12pm

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If prince.org were to be made idiot proof, someone would just invent a better idiot.
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Reply #152 posted 05/12/09 6:13pm

ernestsewell

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Now see...
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Reply #153 posted 05/12/09 6:18pm

SCORPI09

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Worst shooting scene ever! falloff lol
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Reply #154 posted 05/12/09 6:27pm

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Tracy died soon after a long fought civil war
Just after I'd wiped away his last tear
I guess he's better off than he was before,
A whole lot better off than the fools he left here
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Reply #155 posted 05/12/09 6:30pm

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(Dead like Elvis) {sample repeated in song}

Check, check, 1 2, check
U know what he's sayin'?

Face down! {x2}

Somebody once told him that he wouldn't take Prince through the ringer
Let him go down as a washed up singer
Ain't that a bitch?
Thinkin' all along that he wanted 2 be rich
Never respected the root of all evil and he still don't 2 this day, huh
Bury him face down, let the motherfuckers kiss a ass, OK?

Face down! {x2}

Told 'em he wanted 2 sing a song about a black child goin' buck wild
And they just laughed in his face
Talk 2 your lawyer but U got no case
What U need 2 do is keep your place
Next time U pull a card, it better be a ace motherfucker
Or U can lay face down (Face down!)

1 2
Face down! 1 2

Horn {x2}
Bass {x2}

Him and her meaning who I'm singin' about
And his psychoanalyst kinda saw the catalyst
As the devil with the blue jeans on, huh
Ain't it kinda funny when U see the dawn?
Sign the name they gave ya
But when them motherfuckers turn around ass up, U're what?

Face down! 1 2
Face down! New Power Generation in the house, bury 'em all
Face down! Yes, oh Lord
Face down!

Orchestra {x3}
Face down!
Orchestra
Face down!

It's in his will, I read it
He shot 2 kill, he said it
4 those who know the number and don't call
Hmph, fuck all y'all

Face down! {x3}
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Reply #156 posted 05/12/09 6:32pm

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Dig U better dead, I dig U better dead (I dig U)
Dig U better dead, I dig U better dead
Dig U better dead, I dig U better dead (I dig U)
Dig U better dead, I dig U better dead

A long time ago, U took 6 months of walkin'
Talkin' on the other side
What started as an experiment
Turned into a heaven-sent message that saved your ass from dyin'

CHORUS:
Somebody said in life there's always peaks and valleys
And if U're lost, they won't show U the way
That same somebody said, "I dig U better dead!
But I much rather see if your God is what U said, said, said"

And with an awesome power they struck
First they offer up the buck
Right in the middle, right in the middle they stuck
(Oh, right in the middle)
A toke or 2, what the fuck? (What the fuck? Yeah)

One minute U're hot
Tell the truth and U're not
That's the noose that they hang on a goose like U

CHORUS

Dig U better dead, I dig U better dead {x4}

And whatever U do, don't make somebody happy
Don't dress 2 freaky and make their daughters stare
Then U will find out how deep the valley truly be
If U plan on catchin' the bus, U better have plenty fare

CHORUS

Dig U better dead, I dig U better dead {x2}
Dig, dig, dig U better dead
Dig, dig U better dead

CHORUS

I dig U better dead, I dig U better dead
Dig U better dead, I dig U better dead {x3}
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Reply #157 posted 05/12/09 6:37pm

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My bed's a coffin, Dracula ain't got shit on me
My nickname's Hellzapoppin', I'm badder than the wicked witch
I got a gold tooth cost more than your house
I got a diamond ring on 4 fingers, each one the size of a mouse
They dead, they dead on it
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Reply #158 posted 05/12/09 6:41pm

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Don't U know I will kill U now?
U're fuckin' right, I got a gun
U think I don't?
Then what's this?
Oh, U quiet now, uh huh
Little? Yeah, right
It might be little but it's loud
Yeah, right, mm hmm
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Reply #159 posted 05/12/09 6:57pm

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"You WIN" (written by SingMia)

The only sadness for everybody on this planet IS
When you don't have a place to go when your vessel isn't white as snow...
When the holy water in you has dried up...
When you never realize to look up and notice,
Who gave you the life you are in,
Who IS gonna take away all this sin?
The only one with the promise that never lied...
Gave his life for our lives, so we wouldn't be dead inside...
Do you doubt what you breath where you walk?
Don't you know who gave YOU the power to talk?
If you doubt that GOD truly exists...
Then your life won't be eternally HIS.

The sadness.. therein, I do say...
Have you found the Question of you, today?
If you haven't get right with the man upstairs,
For his SON died for your life he prepares...
If you doubt what I said heed these words,
Wanna find it... find the kingdom within... YOU WIN (begin).

Take Care,
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Reply #160 posted 05/12/09 7:39pm

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ernestsewell said:

L4OATheOriginal said:

Sorry but either the mods or the creator of the photo should take it down themself.


I have no plans on removing it. If people can't see the humor in it, then that's on them. I'm still sleepin' okay at night.


So what in God's name is so fucking funny about putting a person who is alive in a coffin? Please enlighten us because most of us are missing the punch line.
"It's hard 4 me 2 say what's right when all I want to do is wrong..."
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Reply #161 posted 05/12/09 7:42pm

ernestsewell

funkteer said:

ernestsewell said:



I have no plans on removing it. If people can't see the humor in it, then that's on them. I'm still sleepin' okay at night.


So what in God's name is so fucking funny about putting a person who is alive in a coffin? Please enlighten us because most of us are missing the punch line.


You'll never get it. I've explained it over and over and over and beatdeadhorse . So if you, or whoever, is too dense, dumb, blind, or selectively reading, then that's on you, not me.
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Reply #162 posted 05/12/09 8:17pm

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ernestsewell said:

funkteer said:



So what in God's name is so fucking funny about putting a person who is alive in a coffin? Please enlighten us because most of us are missing the punch line.


You'll never get it. I've explained it over and over and over and beatdeadhorse . So if you, or whoever, is too dense, dumb, blind, or selectively reading, then that's on you, not me.



You are right. I will never get it, and not because I am dense, dumb, blind, or (selectively reading?) a horrible photo. It is because I am a decent human being. Pushing people's buttons does not make you superior to any of us. You aren't fit to wipe Prince's ass let alone insult him in such a way.
"It's hard 4 me 2 say what's right when all I want to do is wrong..."
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Reply #163 posted 05/12/09 8:57pm

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funkteer said:

ernestsewell said:



You'll never get it. I've explained it over and over and over and beatdeadhorse . So if you, or whoever, is too dense, dumb, blind, or selectively reading, then that's on you, not me.



You are right. I will never get it, and not because I am dense, dumb, blind, or (selectively reading?) a horrible photo. It is because I am a decent human being. Pushing people's buttons does not make you superior to any of us. You aren't fit to wipe Prince's ass let alone insult him in such a way.


Yeah dude! When Prince is lying face down in that coffin in that video it's WAY more tasteful and sensitive.

Prince face up: horrible, insulting

Prince face down: explosion of pure, uncut, Colombian Princebonics
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Reply #164 posted 05/12/09 9:09pm

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funkteer said:




You are right. I will never get it, and not because I am dense, dumb, blind, or (selectively reading?) a horrible photo. It is because I am a decent human being. Pushing people's buttons does not make you superior to any of us. You aren't fit to wipe Prince's ass let alone insult him in such a way.


Yeah dude! When Prince is lying face down in that coffin in that video it's WAY more tasteful and sensitive.

Prince face up: horrible, insulting

Prince face down: explosion of pure, uncut, Colombian Princebonics[/quote
"It's hard 4 me 2 say what's right when all I want to do is wrong..."
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Reply #165 posted 05/12/09 9:16pm

ernestsewell

funkteer said:

You are right. I will never get it, and not because I am dense, dumb, blind, or (selectively reading?) a horrible photo. It is because I am a decent human being. Pushing people's buttons does not make you superior to any of us. You aren't fit to wipe Prince's ass let alone insult him in such a way.


So your implication is that I am NOT a decent human being, based on ONE picture I photoshopped. Such judgement from someone who listens to a man who writes songs about freedom and acceptance. But then again, you probably also love The Rainbow Children, which explains your one-sided attitude. Grow up. If reality is too much for ya, go watch Graffiti Bridge until your nose bleeds or something.

And someone could wipe Prince's ass, whenever you decide to dislodge your snout from it while feeding.
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Reply #166 posted 05/12/09 9:27pm

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If the shoe fits wear it,and if the ass is up, mother fuckers, KISS IT!!!!!

I've said all I had to say.
"It's hard 4 me 2 say what's right when all I want to do is wrong..."
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Reply #167 posted 05/12/09 9:29pm

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ernestsewell said:

Mindflux said:

I think its highly arrogant of ernest to dismiss people's feelings in this way. You have to assume responsibility for your actions (specfically here, ernest and his enormously artistic and humourous picture of prince dead in a coffin) and, ernest, you are intelligent enough to realise that it was going to provoke a reaction from some people. Just because you don't agree with their point of view on the subject, you shouldn't dismiss it.
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I think ernest knew full well the kind of reaction he was going to provoke with his "bit if fun" and I don't think it serves him well to now be saying those people shouldn't be so sensitive and "it's only a pic" - or am I crediting him with too much intelligence?


Mohammed is a religious figure, highly respected and revered. Prince is a musician, not a godfigure or godhead. To compare to the two would insult a lot of believers of Mohammed. (Remember the kid who innocently named his teddy bear "Mohammed" and got flack for it?)

I knew there'd be a reaction, but as I stated above in response to PurpleCam, the level of the response is ridiculous to me, and very unexpected.

I take issue with the arrogance statement. I'm not dismissed people's feelings about the pic. But since when does it become arrogant on my part to defend my picture, and explain it? It's like putting someone on trial with no defense attorney and no leeway to defend themselves. What is this, the court of Henry VIII after the Reformation? No trail, just a hanging at the king's whim. Nope, I'm not playing a victim. No one is a victim here at all in fact. I fully assumed responsibility for the picture. I've not taken it down, and I won't. If the moderators feel they should, I'll respect that. However, it's staying on my own personal pages outside of Prince.org's domain.

It's time to move on from this silliness. Prince is alive and well, and NO ONE, not even me, wishes death on him. No, death should not be taboo, and often times it's a subject of comedy in movies ("Oh God!", "Heaven Can Wait", and that silly Chris Rock remake) and TV shows ("Dead Like Me"). But it should also be seen as the 1 dimensional joke that is was in this picture.

And let's face it: If there was ever a picture to be used for this sort of thing, it's THAT picture of Prince. It's a horrid picture of him, he looks pale and dead (and most fans stated as much when it was released on Lotus). I took it to another level.

beatdeadhorse Let's end the tirades and move forward already.


This is no tirade, just a respectful conversation.

Come on, Ernest - are you really going to try and twist this in to a comparison between the subjects of Prince and Mohammed - the characters are not the point. Its not about whether one is a more provocative or meaningful target - the point (which I don't think you missed, you're just trying to turn it in your favour) is about people's reactions to sensitive subjects, not who is the subject. I was alluding to the likeness between the two events, not starting a debate as to which would be more offensive.

You may take issue with the arrogance statement, but it wasn't a "stretch" as you put it and you're deluding yourself if you think you haven't been dismissive of other's feelings. It was logically put to you by someone that the picture simply "doesn't sit well with me" - your response was "its just a pic. Letitgo" - that's dismissing someone else's feelings about the subject, which you then go on to deny having done!

Its not arrogant to defend your picture and is not what I said - it is arrogant to ignore people's sensitivity to what you posted.

You allude to other artistic creations that involve death. Squirrelgrease has somehow found it relevant to post lyrics where Prince mentions death, as though that justifies what has happened in this thread (yeah, nice one - so, because Prince has mentioned death in his lyrics, its ok to photoshop him in a coffin - that's what I call a stretch!). The difference here is that you are both comparing great pieces of work that are thoughtful and considered with a cheap shot of a photoshopped pic, as though they are the same thing. It seems a desperate attempt to provide some credence to what amounts to no more than an immature, churlish "joke" of sorts - the kind of thing you might expect in a playground, but not from grown adults.

As I said, this is no tirade, nor is it a witchhunt, or some medieval courtroom where you're not getting a fair trial! This is an open debate in front of the very people you chose to provide with your "work" and you have every opportunity to defend yourself - but you ought to defend yourself with salient, reasoned argument rather than twisting of words and foot-stamping about no removal and no surrender.
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Reply #168 posted 05/12/09 9:31pm

ernestsewell

Mindflux said:

This is no tirade, just a respectful conversation.


beatdeadhorse
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Reply #169 posted 05/12/09 9:32pm

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funkteer said:

ernestsewell said:



You'll never get it. I've explained it over and over and over and beatdeadhorse . So if you, or whoever, is too dense, dumb, blind, or selectively reading, then that's on you, not me.



You are right. I will never get it, and not because I am dense, dumb, blind, or (selectively reading?) a horrible photo. It is because I am a decent human being. Pushing people's buttons does not make you superior to any of us. You aren't fit to wipe Prince's ass let alone insult him in such a way.


If prince.org were to be made idiot proof, someone would just invent a better idiot.
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Reply #170 posted 05/12/09 9:33pm

ernestsewell

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lol I saw this the other day somewhere on the web, and had a laugh from it. Was it here? Did you post it? It's gruesome, but funny.
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Reply #171 posted 05/12/09 9:35pm

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ernestsewell said:

Mindflux said:

This is no tirade, just a respectful conversation.


beatdeadhorse


Ok - so, no reasoned argument then! Perhaps you are the dead horse?
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Reply #172 posted 05/12/09 9:41pm

ernestsewell

Mindflux said:

ernestsewell said:



beatdeadhorse


Ok - so, no reasoned argument then! Perhaps you are the dead horse?


I've spoken on it over and over. I encourage you to go read the three pages of rebuttals on my part in responses to everyone's snarky comments and their tails being in a knot about it all. Everything I have to say is there.

I'm not a dead horse. Don't make it personal like everyone else has.

It's time for a mod to lock this one down, methinks. But it's up to them.
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Reply #173 posted 05/12/09 10:05pm

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ernestsewell said:

squirrelgrease said:



lol I saw this the other day somewhere on the web, and had a laugh from it. Was it here? Did you post it? It's gruesome, but funny.


I hadn't posted it before. biggrin
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Reply #174 posted 05/12/09 10:06pm

ernestsewell

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I hadn't posted it before. biggrin


Hmmm, well I saw it somewhere. Funny either way.
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Reply #175 posted 05/12/09 11:45pm

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funkteer said:

ernestsewell said:



I have no plans on removing it. If people can't see the humor in it, then that's on them. I'm still sleepin' okay at night.


So what in God's name is so fucking funny about putting a person who is alive in a coffin? Please enlighten us because most of us are missing the punch line.


1. Only 1 complaint was received thus far..... there has not been a flurry of complaints.

2. Yeah it seems morbid, and it borders on bad taste. But ya'll ain't been hitting the report to mod button.

3. Mods got complaints from peeps when James Brown's funeral thread coffin pic was posted even.
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Reply #176 posted 05/13/09 12:04am

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luv4u said:

funkteer said:



So what in God's name is so fucking funny about putting a person who is alive in a coffin? Please enlighten us because most of us are missing the punch line.


1. Only 1 complaint was received thus far..... there has not been a flurry of complaints.

2. Yeah it seems morbid, and it borders on bad taste. But ya'll ain't been hitting the report to mod button.

3. Mods got complaints from peeps when James Brown's funeral thread coffin pic was posted even.


Was it ernestsewell that made the complaint? He's very yin-yang that way.
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Reply #177 posted 05/13/09 1:39am

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GetAwayFromMe said:

purplecam said:


That's you and you ain't me so keep it moving.


So I'm not a drama queen and you are. Ok, got it.




quite the contrary my dear lol
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Reply #178 posted 05/13/09 1:41am

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luv4u said:

funkteer said:



So what in God's name is so fucking funny about putting a person who is alive in a coffin? Please enlighten us because most of us are missing the punch line.


1. Only 1 complaint was received thus far..... there has not been a flurry of complaints.

2. Yeah it seems morbid, and it borders on bad taste. But ya'll ain't been hitting the report to mod button.

3. Mods got complaints from peeps when James Brown's funeral thread coffin pic was posted even.




isn't that a copywritten photo that was posted on lotusflow3r.com? just sayin.


http://prince.org/msg/7/306897
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Reply #179 posted 05/13/09 3:39am

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ernestsewell said:

Mindflux said:



Ok - so, no reasoned argument then! Perhaps you are the dead horse?


I've spoken on it over and over. I encourage you to go read the three pages of rebuttals on my part in responses to everyone's snarky comments and their tails being in a knot about it all. Everything I have to say is there.

I'm not a dead horse. Don't make it personal like everyone else has.

It's time for a mod to lock this one down, methinks. But it's up to them.
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Clearly, I have read the last 3 pages of your rebuttals...its what lead to me saying you are arrogant!! Your demand that I read what you have written, as though I haven't, is arrogance in itself. Jeesh!

Anyone else get the irony of Ernest being upset and taking it personally about the suggestion he is a "dead horse"?!! Marvellous lol
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