independent and unofficial
Prince fan community
Welcome! Sign up or enter username and password to remember me
Forum jump
Forums > Prince: Music and More > Why aren't the albums Prince owns kept in print?
« Previous topic  Next topic »
Page 2 of 2 <12
  New topic   Printable     (Log in to 'subscribe' to this topic)
Reply #30 posted 05/06/09 8:01am

emesem

Imago said:

It would be nice to see Prince offer all of those out-of-print albums on his website.

Most of them, to my knowledge, he could easily offer as downloads on lotusflow3r or some other type of online retail outlet.

It baffles me why he doesn't. He could be making a killing off offering online downloads, or even a print-and-ship per order method (even at a premium, many fans would gladly pay this).

I think he's sitting on a huge opportunity. Even if half the new stuff is crap, fans are willing to pay for it.



Prince does not think of himself as a retailer. I'm sure the numbers on Npgmusic club were pitiful and he probably lost money on it. He wants someone like Apple to pony up a huge advance for the privilege of making a few pennies on his post WB music. Thats why they are not on his site. At some point I'd gather that he'll get the hint and realize its not going to happen and offer them up on the site.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #31 posted 05/07/09 12:47am

Tremolina

udo said:

Tremolina said:



Better yet, why can't you download them to your computer from his website?

We want decent media.

WTF?

They aren't even reprinted on CD. At least he could make them avalaible as downloads, which can be "decent" as long as the right format is used.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #32 posted 05/07/09 12:54am

Nikademus

avatar

Maybe Prince wants to be forgotten? shrug
Facebook, I haz it - https://www.facebook.com/Nikster1969

Yer booteh maeks meh moodeh

Differing opinions do not equal "hate"
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #33 posted 05/07/09 3:29am

udo

avatar

Tremolina said:

udo said:


We want decent media.

WTF?

They aren't even reprinted on CD. At least he could make them avalaible as downloads, which can be "decent" as long as the right format is used.

CD-R's are not decent.
They are a last-resort effort in this situation.
He has the world as his market and would want us, you say, to burn his music onto CD-Rs?
There's no need to WTF here.
He should take care of this so that the albums are kept in print.
He doesn't, so he's lazy.
Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill... If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #34 posted 05/07/09 3:34am

Tremolina

udo said:

Tremolina said:


WTF?

They aren't even reprinted on CD. At least he could make them avalaible as downloads, which can be "decent" as long as the right format is used.

CD-R's are not decent.
They are a last-resort effort in this situation.
He has the world as his market and would want us, you say, to burn his music onto CD-Rs?
There's no need to WTF here.
He should take care of this so that the albums are kept in print.
He doesn't, so he's lazy.



WTF because with "we" you claim to be speaking for any fan. Some prefer downloads to CD's.
WTF because it's always better to offer downloads than nothing.


I do agree he should take care of reprinting his CD's. I don't think it has to do with laziness, but with money. It costs him too much to reprint CD's that hardly sell anymore.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #35 posted 05/07/09 5:02am

sean2003

This is just economics - in the first few months after a new Prince CD coming out, it probably achieves 80% of the sales it's ever going to. All the fans buy it, it gets all the press it ever will, it has its strongest retail presence.

Two years after a CD comes out, you can sell it at a bargain price, but who's going to buy it at full price? Not enough people to justify the risk of keeping it in print.

In the UK, there have been Prince promotions selling WB 80s albums (including Lovesexy, SOT 2CD) for £3. Less than the price of a large sandwich. I guess if people have waited 20 years to buy an album, it needs a radical price cut to convince them to do so now.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #36 posted 05/07/09 8:14am

EmancipationLo
ver

avatar

What I really don't get is why Prince doesn't offer the previously released material he owns the masters of for digital download on lotusflow3r.com. I mean, he's already paid for setting up the site and for the webspace, if he just offered high-quality mp3s for, let's say, $5 per album, he could cash in a bit without any effort. Especially if he decided to create a 'download shop' on lotuslow3r.com which one could access without being a member of the site.
prince
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #37 posted 05/07/09 12:04pm

NouveauDance

avatar

EmancipationLover said:

What I really don't get is why Prince doesn't offer the previously released material he owns the masters of for digital download on lotusflow3r.com. I mean, he's already paid for setting up the site and for the webspace, if he just offered high-quality mp3s for, let's say, $5 per album, he could cash in a bit without any effort. Especially if he decided to create a 'download shop' on lotuslow3r.com which one could access without being a member of the site.

Way too easy and makes way too much sense.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #38 posted 05/07/09 12:30pm

EmancipationLo
ver

avatar

NouveauDance said:

EmancipationLover said:

What I really don't get is why Prince doesn't offer the previously released material he owns the masters of for digital download on lotusflow3r.com. I mean, he's already paid for setting up the site and for the webspace, if he just offered high-quality mp3s for, let's say, $5 per album, he could cash in a bit without any effort. Especially if he decided to create a 'download shop' on lotuslow3r.com which one could access without being a member of the site.

Way too easy and makes way too much sense.


falloff yeahthat

P.S.: Did I really write "lotuslow3r.com"? Must be something Freudian... biggrin
prince
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #39 posted 05/09/09 5:15am

udo

avatar

Tremolina said:

WTF because with "we" you claim to be speaking for any fan. Some prefer downloads to CD's.
WTF because it's always better to offer downloads than nothing.

Calm down.
You interpret. Not me.
The some you refer to need to get wiser.
What when your ipod drops a tad to hard?
Or when the 'doze PC crashes?
Or do you wnat to keep making backups?
Or do you have a NAS runnign just for your music?
(how green is that?)

I do agree he should take care of reprinting his CD's. I don't think it has to do with laziness, but with money. It costs him too much to reprint CD's that hardly sell anymore.

And we argue here that there is demand!
How much is the production of a CD (including everything) nowadays? $2?
So what is the overhead to produce 10 or 20K or whatever every once in a while, of each title, and to store them and/or directly distribute them?
10 cents per CD? More?
So he doesn't earn that little on them.
Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill... If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #40 posted 05/10/09 1:41pm

Nikademus

avatar

udo said:

Tremolina said:

WTF because with "we" you claim to be speaking for any fan. Some prefer downloads to CD's.
WTF because it's always better to offer downloads than nothing.

Calm down.
You interpret. Not me.
The some you refer to need to get wiser.
What when your ipod drops a tad to hard?
Or when the 'doze PC crashes?
Or do you wnat to keep making backups?
Or do you have a NAS runnign just for your music?
(how green is that?)

I do agree he should take care of reprinting his CD's. I don't think it has to do with laziness, but with money. It costs him too much to reprint CD's that hardly sell anymore.

And we argue here that there is demand!
How much is the production of a CD (including everything) nowadays? $2?
So what is the overhead to produce 10 or 20K or whatever every once in a while, of each title, and to store them and/or directly distribute them?
10 cents per CD? More?
So he doesn't earn that little on them.



What if Prince handled his catalog the way Disney does it's animated releases? When they release one of their animated features to DVD (or bluray or whatever) it's only available for a limited time and they make that point clear. Then, a few years down the road, they release it again, with some sort of "tweak" (like extra features, a bonus disc of stuff, whatever), He could do that, like maybe 5 years or whatever from now he could re-release an album like, say, Musicology that is remastered, has a few outtake tracks and maybe a music video or 2. He could control production costs by only making a set number of copies. This could very well be a way of everyone getting what they want : Prince gets to keep his back catalog alive and out of the markdown bins and fans get access to physical copies of (by then) older releases as well as "vault" goodies.



.
[Edited 5/10/09 13:45pm]
Facebook, I haz it - https://www.facebook.com/Nikster1969

Yer booteh maeks meh moodeh

Differing opinions do not equal "hate"
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #41 posted 05/11/09 2:10am

udo

avatar

Interesting idea.
At least it means that there are opportunities enough.
Yet, they are not seen?
Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill... If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #42 posted 05/12/09 8:05am

BettaPlace2Die

I dont feel it would be foolish at all. Many of his releases can easily be redone and redistrubuted "remastred" as many of them I personally have a hard time litening to anymore for their sound quality. Technology has come along ways since than. And than if added bonuses were added on top of that such as remixes, B sides, and unreleased tracks than it would even sell better.
I find it kinda sad in many ways that just like several other artists that Prince would have to be dead first before we will start seeing alot of these things happen. Why not now?
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Page 2 of 2 <12
  New topic   Printable     (Log in to 'subscribe' to this topic)
« Previous topic  Next topic »
Forums > Prince: Music and More > Why aren't the albums Prince owns kept in print?