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Printable Copycat said: laurarichardson said: he is lucking out to sell 250,000.00 copies which today is considered successful. It will be interesting to see if the CD set has any legs beyond this month. But an artist of his stature should be moving more units even in a down economy. It's a good thing the smart folks at Target are using 'Lotusflow3r' as a loss leader. [Edited 4/26/09 19:30pm] This is the first week that Target hasn't advertised Lotusflow3r in it's circular since it's release. Apparently it's now more of a loss than a loss-leader, since it's not being utilized to get people in the stores. I don't know if it's still an end-cap, impulse staple in the stores anymore, though, so maybe it doesn't matter if they advertise. I really wonder how many of these sets have actually been manufactured. Prince has been paid for it and Target just has to deplete it's stocks for this to be yet another out of print NPG release. If prince.org were to be made idiot proof, someone would just invent a better idiot. | |
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Can't wait to check it out. [Edited 4/26/09 22:59pm] JERKIN' EVERYTHING IN SIGHT!!!!! | |
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JayJai said: japanrocks said: this is not a real interview and you can tell everything was planned out
esp. when prince says "good question" as if he has no idea Tavis is gonna ask him about his childhood gimme a break  Duh, most of these kinds of interviews have been rehearsed a little. | |
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lastdecember said: What people fail to realize is that PRINCE was the first "mainstreamer" to take this plight on his own shoulders. NO ONE stuck by him back in the middle 90s they were all to scared of losing their deals to rise up and speak up. Every last artist at that time KNEW exactly what PRINCE was talking about and they stood by and called him crazy and NOW they are the ones still signed making ZERO and not owning shit. No one realizes what PRINCE sacrificed to get out of his WB deal, alot of the money he signed for in 92 he gave back, he funded himself at that time, created in his own studios and paid for it all from his own pocket. The thing with PRINCE that no one gets is that prince makes it and then funnels it right back into the creation. Sure he owns a studio, a house and things like that, but compared to the FOOLS out there now, selling a zillion ringtones and then buying 3 cars, those assholes are gonna be broke in a month.
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Giovanni777 said: lastdecember said: What people fail to realize is that PRINCE was the first "mainstreamer" to take this plight on his own shoulders. NO ONE stuck by him back in the middle 90s they were all to scared of losing their deals to rise up and speak up. Every last artist at that time KNEW exactly what PRINCE was talking about and they stood by and called him crazy and NOW they are the ones still signed making ZERO and not owning shit. No one realizes what PRINCE sacrificed to get out of his WB deal, alot of the money he signed for in 92 he gave back, he funded himself at that time, created in his own studios and paid for it all from his own pocket. The thing with PRINCE that no one gets is that prince makes it and then funnels it right back into the creation. Sure he owns a studio, a house and things like that, but compared to the FOOLS out there now, selling a zillion ringtones and then buying 3 cars, those assholes are gonna be broke in a month.
Nice! Good point. yeah but there's a certain few on here that will NEVER accept this and will keep pointing out that other artists are doing this or that far better than P. Whilst this may indeed be the case P must be given props for at least trying and succeeding in doing things his way especially since 2004. | |
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What time does this actually come on on monday??? Daytime? Evening? Late night? | |
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apf said: What time does this actually come on on monday??? Daytime? Evening? Late night? In the Atlanta area tavis comes on at 11pmDon't take life too seriously, noone gets out alive. | |
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funkyhead said: Giovanni777 said: Nice! Good point. yeah but there's a certain few on here that will NEVER accept this and will keep pointing out that other artists are doing this or that far better than P. Whilst this may indeed be the case P must be given props for at least trying and succeeding in doing things his way especially since 2004. --- Co-Sign It is irritating the number of people on this board who will not give P any credit or acknowledgement and in addition, the refuse to acknowledge the music industry is very corrupt and crocked. All they do is whine that P should be eternally honored that WB gave him a contract and he should be thanking them everyday. At what point are you allowed to state your gratitude, which he has done and be allowed to move on to bigger and better ventures. The corporate butt sucking on this board is outrageous and I am not sure if it ignorance about the industry or maybe it is just because it is Prince who pointed this stuff out in the first place. Maybe people are mad because he is ruining their delusions about the music industry | |
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squirrelgrease said: Copycat said: It will be interesting to see if the CD set has any legs beyond this month. But an artist of his stature should be moving more units even in a down economy. It's a good thing the smart folks at Target are using 'Lotusflow3r' as a loss leader. [Edited 4/26/09 19:30pm] This is the first week that Target hasn't advertised Lotusflow3r in it's circular since it's release. Apparently it's now more of a loss than a loss-leader, since it's not being utilized to get people in the stores. I don't know if it's still an end-cap, impulse staple in the stores anymore, though, so maybe it doesn't matter if they advertise. I really wonder how many of these sets have actually been manufactured. Prince has been paid for it and Target just has to deplete it's stocks for this to be yet another out of print NPG release. ----- I was in Target this weeked and the endcap was still up and the video was still playing | |
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Copycat said: Ok, it's the industry fault. You see I thought it was because
of his poor marketing efforts, scattershot CDs, open war against internet fans and his propensity to blame everyone but himself. ----- Be sarcastic if you want to be. The industry does not favor artist over the age of 50. Ignore the facts RnB/Pop acts do not get radio airplay or marketing over the age of fifty In addition, nobody gives a rat's ass about internet fans that are ripping off the artist and the labels. You can go ask the web sheriff idiots who are in jail if anyone cares. Dude is getting mad paid and putting out really good music despite all the B.S. Get over | |
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it's probably already been said but....I can't believe some people actually think Prince should not complain that people have basically cheated,stole, and scammed him out of HIS profits from HIS creations. Just because he has still made a lot of money from his creations does not mean he's not entitled to his rightful pay off.
as an example... ok so I go to work everyday, I make enough money to pay the bills and have some luxuries.....but then I find out that my boss has been skimming off the top of my wages. I find out that what I thought I made per hour is actually a lot less than what I'm really supposed to be making per hour. Just because I'm "wealthy" am I not supposed to be upset that I was lied to and cheated? of course not! so then I re-negotiate, I learn from past mistakes and move on. Years later I find out they were stealing from me even more than I thought, in all kinds of different ways, ways that make it damn near impossible for me to ever really know what they owe me. Am I supposed to say..."ahh...bygones, no biggie! they can keep it, AND screw it, let them continue to fuck over the next guy too?" NO! I'd be pissed and so would you. "not a fan"  yeah...ok | |
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Shorty said: it's probably already been said but....I can't believe some people actually think Prince should not complain that people have basically cheated,stole, and scammed him out of HIS profits from HIS creations. Just because he has still made a lot of money from his creations does not mean he's not entitled to his rightful pay off.
as an example... ok so I go to work everyday, I make enough money to pay the bills and have some luxuries.....but then I find out that my boss has been skimming off the top of my wages. I find out that what I thought I made per hour is actually a lot less than what I'm really supposed to be making per hour. Just because I'm "wealthy" am I not supposed to be upset that I was lied to and cheated? of course not! so then I re-negotiate, I learn from past mistakes and move on. Years later I find out they were stealing from me even more than I thought, in all kinds of different ways, ways that make it damn near impossible for me to ever really know what they owe me. Am I supposed to say..."ahh...bygones, no biggie! they can keep it, AND screw it, let them continue to fuck over the next guy too?" NO! I'd be pissed and so would you. Prince ignores these FOOLS.....and so should u. | |
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Shorty said: it's probably already been said but....I can't believe some people actually think Prince should not complain that people have basically cheated,stole, and scammed him out of HIS profits from HIS creations. Just because he has still made a lot of money from his creations does not mean he's not entitled to his rightful pay off.
as an example... ok so I go to work everyday, I make enough money to pay the bills and have some luxuries.....but then I find out that my boss has been skimming off the top of my wages. I find out that what I thought I made per hour is actually a lot less than what I'm really supposed to be making per hour. Just because I'm "wealthy" am I not supposed to be upset that I was lied to and cheated? of course not! so then I re-negotiate, I learn from past mistakes and move on. Years later I find out they were stealing from me even more than I thought, in all kinds of different ways, ways that make it damn near impossible for me to ever really know what they owe me. Am I supposed to say..."ahh...bygones, no biggie! they can keep it, AND screw it, let them continue to fuck over the next guy too?" NO! I'd be pissed and so would you. He should fight to get every penny he is due. He should not however tell everyone about it for 15 years, over and over.  "My God it's full of Stars"
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Rorywan said: Shorty said: it's probably already been said but....I can't believe some people actually think Prince should not complain that people have basically cheated,stole, and scammed him out of HIS profits from HIS creations. Just because he has still made a lot of money from his creations does not mean he's not entitled to his rightful pay off.
as an example... ok so I go to work everyday, I make enough money to pay the bills and have some luxuries.....but then I find out that my boss has been skimming off the top of my wages. I find out that what I thought I made per hour is actually a lot less than what I'm really supposed to be making per hour. Just because I'm "wealthy" am I not supposed to be upset that I was lied to and cheated? of course not! so then I re-negotiate, I learn from past mistakes and move on. Years later I find out they were stealing from me even more than I thought, in all kinds of different ways, ways that make it damn near impossible for me to ever really know what they owe me. Am I supposed to say..."ahh...bygones, no biggie! they can keep it, AND screw it, let them continue to fuck over the next guy too?" NO! I'd be pissed and so would you. He should fight to get every penny he is due. He should not however tell everyone about it for 15 years, over and over. he should do as he pleases. You should take a nap cause you seem tired. "not a fan" yeah...ok | |
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Rebelution said: Uh, look closely at Bria Valente's interview...she's showing nips!!!!! Actually, you don't have to look closely at all.
Normally I do not get involved in these types of messes, but that was the first thing I noticed about her. It is very obvious, I hope she honestly did not know it, giving her the benefit of a doubt.Because sometimes it just happens,but it was not nice to see. I am looking foward though to the whole interview with Prince, did anyone notice his shoes, how cute, I want those shoes  | |
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Graycap23 said: Shorty said: it's probably already been said but....I can't believe some people actually think Prince should not complain that people have basically cheated,stole, and scammed him out of HIS profits from HIS creations. Just because he has still made a lot of money from his creations does not mean he's not entitled to his rightful pay off.
as an example... ok so I go to work everyday, I make enough money to pay the bills and have some luxuries.....but then I find out that my boss has been skimming off the top of my wages. I find out that what I thought I made per hour is actually a lot less than what I'm really supposed to be making per hour. Just because I'm "wealthy" am I not supposed to be upset that I was lied to and cheated? of course not! so then I re-negotiate, I learn from past mistakes and move on. Years later I find out they were stealing from me even more than I thought, in all kinds of different ways, ways that make it damn near impossible for me to ever really know what they owe me. Am I supposed to say..."ahh...bygones, no biggie! they can keep it, AND screw it, let them continue to fuck over the next guy too?" NO! I'd be pissed and so would you. Prince ignores these FOOLS.....and so should u. I try....I try. "not a fan" yeah...ok | |
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Shorty said: Graycap23 said: Prince ignores these FOOLS.....and so should u. I try....I try. | |
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Shorty said: it's probably already been said but....I can't believe some people actually think Prince should not complain that people have basically cheated,stole, and scammed him out of HIS profits from HIS creations. Just because he has still made a lot of money from his creations does not mean he's not entitled to his rightful pay off.
as an example... ok so I go to work everyday, I make enough money to pay the bills and have some luxuries.....but then I find out that my boss has been skimming off the top of my wages. I find out that what I thought I made per hour is actually a lot less than what I'm really supposed to be making per hour. Just because I'm "wealthy" am I not supposed to be upset that I was lied to and cheated? of course not! so then I re-negotiate, I learn from past mistakes and move on. Years later I find out they were stealing from me even more than I thought, in all kinds of different ways, ways that make it damn near impossible for me to ever really know what they owe me. Am I supposed to say..."ahh...bygones, no biggie! they can keep it, AND screw it, let them continue to fuck over the next guy too?" NO! I'd be pissed and so would you. how many millions can one have - with all that money he should be adopting kids - visiting africa.. i hear about how much he's been raped, but i don't hear much about him giving back? all of it can't be going to tithes and offering.. people that make an excessive amount of money I wonder whats it all for - hey maybe i need to start making some millions, then mayb i'd understand | |
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kjamal said: Shorty said: it's probably already been said but....I can't believe some people actually think Prince should not complain that people have basically cheated,stole, and scammed him out of HIS profits from HIS creations. Just because he has still made a lot of money from his creations does not mean he's not entitled to his rightful pay off.
as an example... ok so I go to work everyday, I make enough money to pay the bills and have some luxuries.....but then I find out that my boss has been skimming off the top of my wages. I find out that what I thought I made per hour is actually a lot less than what I'm really supposed to be making per hour. Just because I'm "wealthy" am I not supposed to be upset that I was lied to and cheated? of course not! so then I re-negotiate, I learn from past mistakes and move on. Years later I find out they were stealing from me even more than I thought, in all kinds of different ways, ways that make it damn near impossible for me to ever really know what they owe me. Am I supposed to say..."ahh...bygones, no biggie! they can keep it, AND screw it, let them continue to fuck over the next guy too?" NO! I'd be pissed and so would you. how many millions can one have - with all that money he should be adopting kids - visiting africa.. i hear about how much he's been raped, but i don't hear much about him giving back? all of it can't be going to tithes and offering.. people that make an excessive amount of money I wonder whats it all for - hey maybe i need to start making some millions, then mayb i'd understand why because adopting kids and visiting Africa is "the" thing to do...to keep up appearances? Please, charity isn't about the notoriety. and that's got nothing to do with the fact he's been ripped off. What about them big BILLION dollar companies? they should have a whole freakin' school of adopted children. Shit they could probably single handedly wipe out starvation. but do they? [Edited 4/27/09 11:54am] "not a fan" yeah...ok | |
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kjamal said: Shorty said: it's probably already been said but....I can't believe some people actually think Prince should not complain that people have basically cheated,stole, and scammed him out of HIS profits from HIS creations. Just because he has still made a lot of money from his creations does not mean he's not entitled to his rightful pay off.
as an example... ok so I go to work everyday, I make enough money to pay the bills and have some luxuries.....but then I find out that my boss has been skimming off the top of my wages. I find out that what I thought I made per hour is actually a lot less than what I'm really supposed to be making per hour. Just because I'm "wealthy" am I not supposed to be upset that I was lied to and cheated? of course not! so then I re-negotiate, I learn from past mistakes and move on. Years later I find out they were stealing from me even more than I thought, in all kinds of different ways, ways that make it damn near impossible for me to ever really know what they owe me. Am I supposed to say..."ahh...bygones, no biggie! they can keep it, AND screw it, let them continue to fuck over the next guy too?" NO! I'd be pissed and so would you. how many millions can one have - with all that money he should be adopting kids - visiting africa.. i hear about how much he's been raped, but i don't hear much about him giving back? all of it can't be going to tithes and offering.. people that make an excessive amount of money I wonder whats it all for - hey maybe i need to start making some millions, then mayb i'd understand -----He just did a charity show for Tavis. Don’t you think helping American children go to college is important. He also did a charity show for Urban Gardens a few months ago. Dude does a lot for charity and is charity work has noting to do with record companies cheating artist. I don’t think some of you realize this stuff is still going on and effecting other artist. | |
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Shorty said: Rorywan said: He should fight to get every penny he is due. He should not however tell everyone about it for 15 years, over and over. he should do as he pleases. You should take a nap cause you seem tired. Yeah, I'm tired, I'm tired of every thread on the org turning into puerile bullshit, because of a group of delusion small minded fams spreading hate and aggression into every conversation that doesn't suit them. Get some clarity for gods sake, or this place will just die. Freedom of speech and being individual was the basis of princes music. Not becoming sheep. Now frack off and bother someone else. The number of threads ruined by this bullshit is crazy. The mods have had to delete several already.    "My God it's full of Stars"
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Rorywan said: Shorty said: he should do as he pleases. You should take a nap cause you seem tired. Yeah, I'm tired, I'm tired of every thread on the org turning into puerile bullshit, because of a group of delusion small minded fams spreading hate and aggression into every conversation that doesn't suit them. Get some clarity for gods sake, or this place will just die. Freedom of speech and being individual was the basis of princes music. Not becoming sheep. Now frack off and bother someone else. The number of threads ruined by this bullshit is crazy. The mods have had to delete several already. excuuuuuse me? Were you looking in the mirror when you typed that stupid shit? YOU are the one trying to say what Prince should and should not do. I don't know who the hell you were talking to but it sure the fuck wasn't me. "not a fan" yeah...ok | |
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Shorty said: Rorywan said: Yeah, I'm tired, I'm tired of every thread on the org turning into puerile bullshit, because of a group of delusion small minded fams spreading hate and aggression into every conversation that doesn't suit them. Get some clarity for gods sake, or this place will just die. Freedom of speech and being individual was the basis of princes music. Not becoming sheep. Now frack off and bother someone else. The number of threads ruined by this bullshit is crazy. The mods have had to delete several already. excuuuuuse me? Were you looking in the mirror when you typed that stupid shit? YOU are the one trying to say what Prince should and should not do. I don't know who the hell you were talking to but it sure the fuck wasn't me.  "My God it's full of Stars"
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bonnie184 said: This is what is posted at Lotusflow3r.com
Tavis' 2-part interview with Prince airs starting this Monday, April 27th. Tuesday: part 2 of the conversation, followed by an interview with Miss Bria Valente. Now you know
[edited by anx] Hmmmmm.....my PBS station here in Toronto has it listed as Part 1 tomorrow and Part 2 Wednesday ?? Will have to watch and make sure. Thanks for the info ! L4L Live4Love&LoveWillLive4U | |
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WHAT TIME? WHAT TIME?! I swear the words "HATER" is wayyy over-rated...smh | |
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JayJai said: WHAT TIME? WHAT TIME?!
It's 5:30 - 6 pm where I live...might be different depending where you live...however Prince wasn't on tonight's show here...it was Tracey Ullman....Prince is on Tues & Wed....but again this might be different depending on where you live. I am in Toronto, CANADA. 
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show comes on @ 1 am tonight....so i'll be staying up, same time tomorrow night to see part 2.  brew the coffee!  | |
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danzakairos said: Rebelution said: Uh, look closely at Bria Valente's interview...she's showing nips!!!!! Actually, you don't have to look closely at all.
Normally I do not get involved in these types of messes, but that was the first thing I noticed about her. It is very obvious, I hope she honestly did not know it, giving her the benefit of a doubt.Because sometimes it just happens,but it was not nice to see. I am looking foward though to the whole interview with Prince, did anyone notice his shoes, how cute, I want those shoes i saw the nips too! | |
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kimrachell said: danzakairos said: Normally I do not get involved in these types of messes, but that was the first thing I noticed about her. It is very obvious, I hope she honestly did not know it, giving her the benefit of a doubt.Because sometimes it just happens,but it was not nice to see. I am looking foward though to the whole interview with Prince, did anyone notice his shoes, how cute, I want those shoes i saw the nips too! I didn't...can't figure what all the fuss is about...her jacket covers her and her top is not see through. How did you all see anything ?? L4L Live4Love&LoveWillLive4U | |
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bonnie184 said: This is what is posted at Lotusflow3r.com
Tavis' 2-part interview with Prince airs starting this Monday, April 27th. Tuesday: part 2 of the conversation, followed by an interview with Miss Bria Valente. Now you know
[edited by anx] wow it was so good to hear his voice and to see him doing interview like this and its good to see him being himself and its nice to see hes looking so well and looking very classy and smart too... his voice really turns me on ... so sexy and hes so sweet and gentle loving man... hes so cute and good to see him smiling .....and to hear him talked.... its the first time lve heard his voice .... wow what a feeling !!!!! lm very proud of him...and he should be proud of himself too.... prince lm proud of u | |
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