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Reply #30 posted 04/22/09 5:18pm

Dayclear

Yeah, I'll bet Prince is real scared and shaking in his boots. confused
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Reply #31 posted 04/22/09 5:23pm

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Dayclear said:

Yeah, I'll bet Prince is real scared and shaking in his boots. confused

He'll figure a way how to completely screw them without handing over one cent. I'm sure of it lol
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Reply #32 posted 04/22/09 5:31pm

Trickology

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i know right! those are the ones that have been reported.

Back in the 90s it was reported that the people that were making his "pimp" canes didn't get paid, and also a company that was doing video work from him hadn't got paid either. I think the company was called Point Of View. I think they were both Minneapolis based companies. So long ago it's hard to remember. LOL


The pimp canes! I didnt read your post and lo and behold you mention it. lol


It makes sense why he is staying in beverly hills. what do you bet that all of the businesses in MPLS were on his ass including the construction company who was building his symbol home? I will bet money he didn't pay those contractors and they shut that shit down. Anyone want to bet that he was behind his construction payments?

Purple Drain also foreshadows the past repeats itself with the Business acumen of the Princeverse

http://princetext.tripod...._1995.html
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Reply #33 posted 04/22/09 5:37pm

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

Dayclear said:

Yeah, I'll bet Prince is real scared and shaking in his boots. confused

He'll figure a way how to completely screw them without handing over one cent. I'm sure of it lol


Karma will catch up with him because he isn't Dick Cheney or The Saudi Royal Family. He's Prince Nelson from Chanhassen,Minnesota. Ellen should introduce him as a fancy lesbian lol
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Reply #34 posted 04/22/09 5:45pm

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Trickology said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:


He'll figure a way how to completely screw them without handing over one cent. I'm sure of it lol


Karma will catch up with him because he isn't Dick Cheney or The Saudi Royal Family. He's Prince Nelson from Chanhassen,Minnesota. Ellen should introduce him as a fancy lesbian lol

or her next wife! lol
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Reply #35 posted 04/22/09 5:49pm

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

Trickology said:



Karma will catch up with him because he isn't Dick Cheney or The Saudi Royal Family. He's Prince Nelson from Chanhassen,Minnesota. Ellen should introduce him as a fancy lesbian lol

or her next wife! lol

That's some funny shit!!!
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Reply #36 posted 04/22/09 6:01pm

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BFD he get's sued all the time. Doesn't mean those that are suing him are necessarily right in their claims nor do they win their cases.
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Reply #37 posted 04/22/09 7:38pm

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

Marrk said:

The man can make millions and has done these last few weeks, yet will screw folks over for a couple of hundred grand, if i or you were in this publishers employ, you'd be pissed.


Especially since he probably purposely seeks out smaller outfits who are

1 - Hungry for the opportunity to work with him

2 - Not as able to use monetary leverage to fight him.

This is why some long timers have zero respect for him. He'll shut down the websites for having picture appreciation threads and demand money for such threads but turn around and screw someone royally. How can anyone respect this? I sure can't.


biggrin the lotus flow3r web designer person springs 2 mind. can't help feeling it'll end in tears..
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Reply #38 posted 04/22/09 7:46pm

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From TMZ:

The artist known as Prince will also be known as defendant -- accused of some seriously cutthroat business tactics in a book deal gone sour.

According to a lawsuit filed yesterday in L.A. County Superior Court, a literary agency claims Prince chose them as their "exclusive agent with respect to the negotiations of a publishing deal" for a book called "21 Nights" and a special limited edition version.

In the documents, the agency claims in the final stages of the deal, Prince stopped calling them back -- and then went behind their back to finish the negotiations -- thus screwing the company out of it's 15% commission.

The agency is now suing for it's 15% -- about $200,000. Practically chump change for the Purple One.

http://www.tmz.com/2009/0...ok-people/


That's our boy! Prince don't give a damn when it comes to gettin that paper. Even from fans.
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Reply #39 posted 04/22/09 10:00pm

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Reply #40 posted 04/22/09 10:03pm

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Marrk said:

The man can make millions and has done these last few weeks, yet will screw folks over for a couple of hundred grand, if i or you were in this publishers employ, you'd be pissed.

Why is he such a greedy selfish ass? he appears to be. Damn sad.

Where is the humanitarian Prince that used to do food drives at his concerts? where'd he go?



You don't really know what happened.
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Reply #41 posted 04/22/09 10:06pm

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Marrk said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:



Especially since he probably purposely seeks out smaller outfits who are

1 - Hungry for the opportunity to work with him

2 - Not as able to use monetary leverage to fight him.

This is why some long timers have zero respect for him. He'll shut down the websites for having picture appreciation threads and demand money for such threads but turn around and screw someone royally. How can anyone respect this? I sure can't.


i continue to give him a pass for all the great music and performances he's given me over the years, and i am grateful, but he seemingly becomes a more wretched person by the year, he's not a likeable person at all, on the face of it.

there is a massive list that could be put together of Prince acting like an ass in recent yrs. I still think about his goon snatching that camera off a kid in an airport somewhere, he really is the vainest, saddest and greediest man around.

"keep the lights off!"

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Do you believe everything you read?
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Reply #42 posted 04/22/09 10:08pm

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Marrk said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:



And the exact reason why people are so repulsed by the fake religious crap. A sincerely religious person strives to live ethically, especially in business.


Precisely. He's no different to any 'Fat Cats on Wall St' he has the temerity to sing about on 'Old Skool Company'.

I could screw everyone in the ass for less than $77 dollars and i'd guarantee it'd be a better experience than Lotu$flow£r.com so far! smile


Lotusflow3r has worked out well for some members who have received tickets through it, plus able to download albums...
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Reply #43 posted 04/22/09 10:14pm

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PEJ said:

BFD he get's sued all the time. Doesn't mean those that are suing him are necessarily right in their claims nor do they win their cases.



Exactly... people will sue if they think they can suck a penny out of a stone..
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Reply #44 posted 04/22/09 10:14pm

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PEJ said:

BFD he get's sued all the time. Doesn't mean those that are suing him are necessarily right in their claims nor do they win their cases.


true but it doesn't mean he's innocent, either. rich prince is richer than many of these small businesses. i bet prince pays his lawyers on time. biggrin
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Reply #45 posted 04/22/09 10:15pm

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pplrain said:

Marrk said:



i continue to give him a pass for all the great music and performances he's given me over the years, and i am grateful, but he seemingly becomes a more wretched person by the year, he's not a likeable person at all, on the face of it.

there is a massive list that could be put together of Prince acting like an ass in recent yrs. I still think about his goon snatching that camera off a kid in an airport somewhere, he really is the vainest, saddest and greediest man around.

"keep the lights off!"

neutral



Do you believe everything you read?


do you believe everything you make up out of thin air
it's time for a new direction / it's time for jazz to die
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Reply #46 posted 04/22/09 10:17pm

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stanleylieber said:

pplrain said:




Do you believe everything you read?


do you believe everything you make up out of thin air



Put down the pipe.....
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Reply #47 posted 04/22/09 10:26pm

luckybullet

I hear this stuff and I think of Michael Jackson. If Price can't keep good on his business affairs... i foresee that we will be looking ahead to another pitiful BK mitigation auction fiasco in BH???
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Reply #48 posted 04/22/09 10:27pm

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pplrain said:

stanleylieber said:



do you believe everything you make up out of thin air



Put down the pipe.....


see my previous post
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Reply #49 posted 04/23/09 12:57am

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stanleylieber said:

PEJ said:

BFD he get's sued all the time. Doesn't mean those that are suing him are necessarily right in their claims nor do they win their cases.


true but it doesn't mean he's innocent, either. rich prince is richer than many of these small businesses. i bet prince pays his lawyers on time. biggrin




doesn't mean he's guilty either. I could sue Prince tomorrow and make all kinds of claims. Somebody could gain my court files the next day and then come report it on prince.org. soon after someone like you stanley could read the article depending on how it's worded and assume Prince isn't innocent because you heard the plaintifs version. regardless yes, he can afford to pay his lawyers on time.
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Reply #50 posted 04/23/09 1:26am

Dayclear

How can Prince be getting over on so many people, he's only one man. I'm not believing this shit.
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Reply #51 posted 04/23/09 2:40am

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

Is anyone shocked at this?


Yeap the Literary Agency that found out that they did not have a contract signed with Prince's company if they did they would sue him for alot more than $200,000 dollars..... lol

Man Princes lawyers make a good living out of these chumps.... biggrin

Maybe Prince is getting legal lessons from Madonna....she knows how to break balls.... lol
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Reply #52 posted 04/23/09 4:55am

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We have all these folks in here who claim they have no respect for Prince yet can't go a day without thinking and commenting on his life and work. U people need help. Please see a shrink for your own sakes because its quite evident that u have issues.

For my part I have no idea whos right or wrong in regards to prince's legal affairs. Furthermore I really could care less. Why any of us would want to insert our 2 cent into something we can have no clear clue about it beyond me.
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Reply #53 posted 04/23/09 5:42am

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Trickology said:



Purple Drain also foreshadows the past repeats itself with the Business acumen of the Princeverse

http://princetext.tripod...._1995.html


Interesting read Trickology, especially this part:
[Chapman said in her deposition: "I may go to him to run something by him, and his response to me is: 'Why do I have to get involved in this? That is what I pay you for. If I have to make these decisions, why do I have you'" ]

It appears that since this article, Prince has learned to 'trim the fat' and surround himself with a skeleton crew of people and small businesses. Prince has stated on other occassions that he 'doesnt do contracts'. But as Prince/the product is still producing records and shows under NPG he must be open to the idea of contracts (if) someone else (that he pays) is doing the negotiations. shrug

Music and media is full of flakey people with short attention spans and funky business practices.. It also has its share of astounding lawyers with underhand business practices who will happily leech onto flakey artisans to do business. Prince is as flakey as they come, but he's been around long enough to know how to play with barrcuda's and remain relatively unscathed (to the general public anyhow).

With regards to this lawsuit? ANY business that would even embark on ANY project with an individual or company (even megastars like P) without a paper agreement is naive to say the least, and at best they are looking for trouble... nuts

I think the 3121 perfume company might have had more of a case, as they at least had a contract! Unless of course they were too shortsighted to include in writing a schedule and stipulations to the type and frequency of advertising they believed the perfume needed from Prince/the product. If they didnt have that then they were stupid.
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Reply #54 posted 04/23/09 6:30am

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Trickology said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:



Especially since he probably purposely seeks out smaller outfits who are

1 - Hungry for the opportunity to work with him

2 - Not as able to use monetary leverage to fight him.

This is why some long timers have zero respect for him. He'll shut down the websites for having picture appreciation threads and demand money for such threads but turn around and screw someone royally. How can anyone respect this? I sure can't.


Which begs the question: Who doesn't yet know that Prince is unethical when it comes to business practices? The trail of businesses being ripped off is far and wide.

Randee St Nicholas & all the lackeys are not going to say it, but the local businesses got ripped off, clubs got ripped off etc 1800 New Funk was akin to a quasi mailorder con man operation. Remember the lucite canes he ordered customized from a business in MPLS? He didn't pay them either. This is why I dont have respect for the dude. You can't even have a discussion nor can these past businesses contact him. Thank god for the internet, alot of businesses know how unethical he is regarding business and services.


But is this unique to Prince or does this happen all the time, especially in the entertainment business. I have an aunt and uncle who owns an engineering company and a design company, they can tell you countless stories of shadiness from clients. I'm not disputing whether is wrong, or right, just wondering what is the reality here.

It's clear though, that to do business with Prince or anyone, you have to have everything in writing.
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Reply #55 posted 04/23/09 6:58am

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Marrk said:

Where is the humanitarian Prince that used to do food drives at his concerts? where'd he go?
He hasn't finished eating it all yet.
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Reply #56 posted 04/23/09 6:59am

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pplrain said:

Lotusflow3r has worked out well for some members who have received tickets through it, plus able to download albums...
Yep, some have done quite well, but shouldn't it offer value for everyone, not just a few? We still have a long way to go in the year though, so it might make good.
RIP sad
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Reply #57 posted 04/23/09 7:00am

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wonder505 said:

Trickology said:



Which begs the question: Who doesn't yet know that Prince is unethical when it comes to business practices? The trail of businesses being ripped off is far and wide.

Randee St Nicholas & all the lackeys are not going to say it, but the local businesses got ripped off, clubs got ripped off etc 1800 New Funk was akin to a quasi mailorder con man operation. Remember the lucite canes he ordered customized from a business in MPLS? He didn't pay them either. This is why I dont have respect for the dude. You can't even have a discussion nor can these past businesses contact him. Thank god for the internet, alot of businesses know how unethical he is regarding business and services.


But is this unique to Prince or does this happen all the time, especially in the entertainment business. I have an aunt and uncle who owns an engineering company and a design company, they can tell you countless stories of shadiness from clients. I'm not disputing whether is wrong, or right, just wondering what is the reality here.

It's clear though, that to do business with Prince or anyone, you have to have everything in writing.


I'll have to agree with you on this one. Not signing any contracts or agreements while doing business with with Prince (or anyone for that matter) is looking for a world of trouble! eek
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Reply #58 posted 04/23/09 7:03am

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This isnt the first or only time he has done this business wise. And yet many are suprised :confused:
Smurf theme song-seriously how many fucking "La Las" can u fit into a dam song wall
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Reply #59 posted 04/23/09 7:04am

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double post
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Smurf theme song-seriously how many fucking "La Las" can u fit into a dam song wall
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