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Reply #30 posted 04/14/09 8:18am

RodeoSchro

Hell no! I love "Batdance". GREAT song.
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Reply #31 posted 04/14/09 8:27am

LiveToTell86

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even without the movie backing it it would have been a number 1 hit.its such a different type of prince song.


Without the movie backing, radio wouldn't have touched it. Sorry but there's no debate in that.
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Reply #32 posted 04/14/09 8:50am

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the vicki vale mix is hot shit!

and in the unreleased version the 1st beat change is slamming!
man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81
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Reply #33 posted 04/14/09 10:18am

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If there hadn't been the movie, I don't think it would have made #1.[/quote]


if there hadn't been batdance, i don't think the movie would have made #1 wink
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Reply #34 posted 04/14/09 5:05pm

khemseraph

LiveToTell86 said:

khemseraph said:

even without the movie backing it it would have been a number 1 hit.its such a different type of prince song.


Without the movie backing, radio wouldn't have touched it. Sorry but there's no debate in that.

not in my eyes man
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Reply #35 posted 04/14/09 8:08pm

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peter430044 said:

I so wish for Prince to have a song that makes it to the top of the charts, but I think it's funny that Batdance made it to the top, because it's nowhere near number one material. There are so many other Prince songs that deserved the number one spot. I get it, the Batman movie was a hit, so Batdance became number one, but it wasn't right.

What are you talking about?
It copied M/A/R/R/S 's 'Pump Up the Volume' but it was deserving of being a #1 single. Just because it came with a movie doesn't make it a hit. How many no 1's have Bond films launched? The over/under is about 3? (Take the under.)
Brilliant production to meld soundbites from the movie with samples of the other songs on the soundtrack. Daringly brilliant.

And what does right and wrong have to do with being a #1 single? Is it wrong to buy it or listen to it before it becomes a #1 single?
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Reply #36 posted 04/14/09 8:09pm

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peter430044 said:

Tame said:

I agree..."Trust," and "Arms of Orion," were better songs. cool


I love Arms Of Orion too. Better not tell anyone else on the org wink


That explains a lot.
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Reply #37 posted 04/14/09 8:12pm

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khemseraph said:

batdance is an amazing song.liek the 1st time a majr artist made a house song commercial and made it a hit.it had mahor impact on madonnas "im breathless" lp and on trent reznor who even stated that it was the inspiration for the "natural born killers" soundtrack.hip hop acts should take notice of his use of sampling .even without the movie backing it it would have been a number 1 hit.its such a different type of prince song.and probably the most abstract number 1 since his own when doves cry.the arms of orion is fluff.trust was excellent.so was the future,electric chair and lemon crush.now that i think about it the whole soundtrack gets a bad rap for no reason because its a pretty fuckin good lp.


totally..
batdance is awesome.. it is so intricate, its brilliant....
and the guitar solo is ridiculous...

the whole album gets a bum rap... but there are some great tracks.. future, electric chair, scandalous... i love lemon crush... but Batdance is an unrecognized GEM.
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Reply #38 posted 04/14/09 8:20pm

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Ugot2shakesumthin said:

I can easily see why it hit #1, besides all the publicity of the first Batman Movie, Tim Burton, Jack Nicholson on on..

If i was going to bitch about a Prince song hitting #1, i would nominate "The Most Beautiful Girl In The World" or "Cream", now those are two Prince songs i hate!
[Edited 4/12/09 19:00pm]



'Cream' is the embarrassment that made good. I never would have made that a single.
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Reply #39 posted 04/14/09 8:40pm

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peter430044 said:

thedance said:



Okay I agree with you, it's strange these songs didn't made it to #1:

Purple Rain,
Raspberry Beret,
U Got The Look

those classics should have been #1 hits, but.. I guess I could mention a lot of others that deserved better too,

overall it's not really fair Prince often has been really poor in selling records. Back in 1985-1988 he deserved better,

Especially Lovesexy not hitting in US was a big shame. sad


Purple Rain deserved number one, but given that Let's Go Crazy and When Doves Cry were number ones, I don't think it was realistic. Raspberry Beret and U Got The Look were great songs, I wish they had been number ones. Lovesexy is a very good album, Alphabet St. could've been number one and maybe Anna Stesia.


Was there a quota on 'Purple Rain'?
The single didn't top the chart because we'd all seen the the movie a dozen times and played the album out.
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Reply #40 posted 04/14/09 8:43pm

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Batdance is the "avant garde"... pure genius... Prince is everywhere on this track !!!

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Reply #41 posted 04/14/09 9:28pm

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Shoulda been Electric Chair but Batdance was the shit back in the day...

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Reply #42 posted 04/14/09 11:30pm

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No, Batdance is awesome, even if it can't properly be called a song.
[Edited 4/14/09 23:33pm]
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Reply #43 posted 04/14/09 11:31pm

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Ugot2shakesumthin said:

I can easily see why it hit #1, besides all the publicity of the first Batman Movie, Tim Burton, Jack Nicholson on on..

If i was going to bitch about a Prince song hitting #1, i would nominate "The Most Beautiful Girl In The World" or "Cream", now those are two Prince songs i hate!
[Edited 4/12/09 19:00pm]

I kinda like Cream. I wouldn't call it a favourite, but it's aight. shrug

As for, TMBGITW....well, the melody's pretty but the lyrics are kind of weak.
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Reply #44 posted 04/15/09 12:04am

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BATDANCE >>>>> TMBGITW >>>>> CREAM


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Reply #45 posted 04/15/09 4:24am

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peter430044 said:

I so wish for Prince to have a song that makes it to the top of the charts, but I think it's funny that Batdance made it to the top, because it's nowhere near number one material. There are so many other Prince songs that deserved the number one spot. I get it, the Batman movie was a hit, so Batdance became number one, but it wasn't right.


In the history of billboard? Are yo MAD??!?! Have you listen to what's gone number 1 in the past 15 years. F**kin Jughead is more deserving to be number one then. whatever song is number one right now.
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Reply #46 posted 04/15/09 5:02am

khemseraph

P2daP said:

peter430044 said:

I so wish for Prince to have a song that makes it to the top of the charts, but I think it's funny that Batdance made it to the top, because it's nowhere near number one material. There are so many other Prince songs that deserved the number one spot. I get it, the Batman movie was a hit, so Batdance became number one, but it wasn't right.


In the history of billboard? Are yo MAD??!?! Have you listen to what's gone number 1 in the past 15 years. F**kin Jughead is more deserving to be number one then. whatever song is number one right now.

haha u are so right about that
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Reply #47 posted 04/15/09 5:10am

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Absolutely NOT!!!
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Reply #48 posted 04/15/09 5:17am

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I became a fan after listening Batdance on radio, bought the Batman casette n after watching GBridge n buying GB cd, I bot his entire back catalogue !

I guess not many really understood the Grand Progression of GB movie
if u cant tell me if Prince or Rosie did the opening scream for Gett Off, then u are not purple !!!
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Reply #49 posted 04/15/09 6:20am

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What I loved about the whole Batdance/Batman thing was that it showed Prince could just pull off mainstream in the wink of an eye. I'm not saying that the album is too simple or anything but that for him to go from something like Lovesexy to then write Arms of orion which mainstream artists would love to sing,was really exciting at the time.
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Reply #50 posted 04/15/09 9:06am

leecaldon

Batdance is a great song. So much going on in there. So many interesting ideas thrown together.
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Reply #51 posted 04/15/09 9:14am

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peter430044 said:

I so wish for Prince to have a song that makes it to the top of the charts, but I think it's funny that Batdance made it to the top, because it's nowhere near number one material. There are so many other Prince songs that deserved the number one spot. I get it, the Batman movie was a hit, so Batdance became number one, but it wasn't right.


Batdance was so 'current' at the time I thought WB made Prince take on a producer or something. It's a fun song and deserved to be the massive hit that it was.
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Reply #52 posted 04/15/09 10:23am

LiveToTell86

khemseraph said:

LiveToTell86 said:



Without the movie backing, radio wouldn't have touched it. Sorry but there's no debate in that.

not in my eyes man


Then you should compare the song to any of the #1 of the 80s. Just check out the same year, 1989, chart toppers by Madonna ("Like A Prayer"), Martika ("Toy Soldiers") or Janet Jackson ("Miss You Much"). Do you really think "Batdance" had even 1/10 of the mass appeal those hits had?
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Reply #53 posted 04/26/09 1:51pm

khemseraph

LiveToTell86 said:

khemseraph said:

even without the movie backing it it would have been a number 1 hit.its such a different type of prince song.


Without the movie backing, radio wouldn't have touched it. Sorry but there's no debate in that.

there's all kinds of debate in that.it's a great song.it inspired trent reznors work on the natural born killers soundtrack(hell you could say it inspired his early work period)
and if the song wasnt any good it wouldn't have sold over 1,000,000 copies(thats in the u.s. alone)regardles of what movie was backing it.
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Reply #54 posted 04/26/09 1:57pm

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khemseraph said:

batdance is an amazing song.liek the 1st time a majr artist made a house song commercial and made it a hit.it had mahor impact on madonnas "im breathless" lp and on trent reznor who even stated that it was the inspiration for the "natural born killers" soundtrack.hip hop acts should take notice of his use of sampling .even without the movie backing it it would have been a number 1 hit.its such a different type of prince song.and probably the most abstract number 1 since his own when doves cry.the arms of orion is fluff.trust was excellent.so was the future,electric chair and lemon crush.now that i think about it the whole soundtrack gets a bad rap for no reason because its a pretty fuckin good lp.


totally..
batdance is awesome.. it is so intricate, its brilliant....
and the guitar solo is ridiculous...

the whole album gets a bum rap... but there are some great tracks.. future, electric chair, scandalous... i love lemon crush... but Batdance is an unrecognized GEM.



Vicki Waiting is in my Prince top 25...maybe.
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Reply #55 posted 04/27/09 11:45am

LiveToTell86

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and if the song wasnt any good it wouldn't have sold over 1,000,000 copies(thats in the u.s. alone)regardles of what movie was backing it.


Sales and quality don't go hand-in-hand. Why does it always have to be repeated when it comes to charts?
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Reply #56 posted 04/27/09 11:53am

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Batdance is nothing short of a masterwork, imo. Honestly, I sometimes think that if Prince had recorded it apart from the Batman film with no dialogue interspersed, people would be tripping over themselves at how creative, risky and innovative it is. It still strikes me as a stroke of genius after 20 years, with the tempo changes, hypnotic beats, haunting synths and fiery guitar work. Prince was definitely "on" with this one and he deserved a number one most absolutely. It's one time he deserved it and actually got it, thanks to the hype of the film.
The video clip is also one of the best Prince has done. Very creative idea, well-executed.
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Reply #57 posted 04/27/09 11:58am

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I love Batdance

And if the song isn't that spectacular for others, that wicked guitar solo sure does make the song

I would have loved to hear each part made into an individual song, especially the part with the guitar solo...

I love the Future as well...I listend to this one all the time










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Reply #58 posted 04/27/09 12:01pm

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This song is off the chain.
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