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Thread started 04/25/09 12:59pm

tat2s

Does Prince have Low Self Esteem?

okay so I was looking at the previews for the Tavis show (the part where he talks about his youth and getting picked on). Do u think thats why he is always trying to buy the women in his life. Does he think he only has value because of his talents?

I took a marriage class when I was in college and we talked about how women tend to define themselves by their job titles. Like if you ask a woman 'who is she' women typically respond with job titles like "i'm a lawyer" or I'm a mother, or I'm a a wife.

I think P's female side takes over in this area because he seems to think no one is interested in him unless he has a guitar around his neck... so sad... I think he is MUCH more than just a musician/songwriter. He seems to be a very smart funny charming HUMAN BEING in general.

In his lyrics he always talks about attracting women because of his musician status too...

and he also talked about getting picked on when he was Oprah in 98..... sad
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Reply #1 posted 04/25/09 1:02pm

NeptuneHQ

Oh really? eek
There is too much snow in Hollywood!
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Reply #2 posted 04/25/09 1:02pm

PEJ

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perhaps the question you should be asking is "Did Prince have a Low Self Esteem when growing up as a child" because in that same interview he in his current demeanor appears to be very confident and secure of himself.
[Edited 4/25/09 13:04pm]
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Reply #3 posted 04/25/09 1:03pm

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Reply #4 posted 04/25/09 1:06pm

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There is too much snow in Hollywood!
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Reply #5 posted 04/25/09 2:33pm

piccolo7

tat2s said:

okay so I was looking at the previews for the Tavis show (the part where he talks about his youth and getting picked on). Do u think thats why he is always trying to buy the women in his life. Does he think he only has value because of his talents?

I took a marriage class when I was in college and we talked about how women tend to define themselves by their job titles. Like if you ask a woman 'who is she' women typically respond with job titles like "i'm a lawyer" or I'm a mother, or I'm a a wife.

I think P's female side takes over in this area because he seems to think no one is interested in him unless he has a guitar around his neck... so sad... I think he is MUCH more than just a musician/songwriter. He seems to be a very smart funny charming HUMAN BEING in general.

In his lyrics he always talks about attracting women because of his musician status too...

and he also talked about getting picked on when he was Oprah in 98..... sad



yeah its true ,,, well said here
l think tht is whole problem.... prince is right what hes saying or thinking...
tht why he is more careful in choosing the right one ...
u knw he is a very nice guy and very charming person and very very loving too and loyal too and has a great sense of humour and can make u laugh he is generally funny too...once u get to know him so well...it is therefore so sad tht everyone always love to pick on him and takes things for granted with him..
and its so sad to see such a beautiful human being being let down with so many things...there is true love out there for him and he knows that...hes a GENIUS that wonderful man....GOD IS LOVE wink
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Reply #6 posted 04/25/09 3:21pm

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I think insecurity has shaped him. I think he's used it to his advantage, becoming a larger than life character. But I think he's still uncomfortable with interviews (though he seemed pretty comfortable with Tavis) & overcompensated by acting extra cool.

I think if he was more secure he might not work so hard, and lessening insecurity may be a factor in his seeing to disappear after an album is released. Now he makes the music for love of music, not to be on MTV (assuming MTV still exists, I am not entirely sure) or Top 40 radio.

But stuff like Chocolate Box & wearing of heels, makeup, etc. says to me that he is still fairly insecure.
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Reply #7 posted 04/25/09 4:50pm

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NDRU said:

(though he seemed pretty comfortable with Tavis)

I disagree.His body language speaks volumes. I've just seen snippets of that interview, but the way he moves and changes position on that sofa is a clear sign of his discomfort. Also his voice is so low, flattering, unstable, shaky in most interviews. On stage he's the complete opposite, but he seems to be a very insecure person in private. Maybe it's different if he's surrounded with friends and no cameras, I don't know.
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Reply #8 posted 04/25/09 6:12pm

MRGee

Are you kidding? The man is GORGEOUS ,RICH and MUSICALLY THE MOST TALENTED HUMAN GOD EVER R U MAD Thinking THIS? He can have ANY WOMAN he Wants if he WANTS...No, he's o.k. but probably not CONTENT all the time with his BUSINESS DEALINGS.
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Reply #9 posted 04/25/09 6:17pm

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Everybody that has a close relationship with God...will eventually have low self esteem because we tend to feel responsible for the World's conditions...and sometimes helpless.

If anybody has low self-esteem...it's just a mood...no different from on top of the world party life... We are all loaded with everchanging and growing emotions that carry us through growth. People are emotional. It's a rollercoaster...what can ya do. cool
"The Lion Sleeps Tonight...
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Reply #10 posted 04/25/09 6:25pm

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ludwig said:

NDRU said:

(though he seemed pretty comfortable with Tavis)

I disagree.His body language speaks volumes. I've just seen snippets of that interview, but the way he moves and changes position on that sofa is a clear sign of his discomfort. Also his voice is so low, flattering, unstable, shaky in most interviews. On stage he's the complete opposite, but he seems to be a very insecure person in private. Maybe it's different if he's surrounded with friends and no cameras, I don't know.
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well, the part where he was talking about the piano, he was open. That's kind of what I meant. Didn't try to sound cool. let himself sound a little nerdy. On Ellen (2004) he tried to sound cool & funny, and basically shut down because he seemed uncomfortable. Maybe he was uncomfortable on Tavis, but he seemed just comfortable enough to act like his true self

Just my opinion, of course, I've never met him.
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Reply #11 posted 04/25/09 6:47pm

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I hope he hasnĀ“t... it would be so sad confused
Forever in my life...
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Reply #12 posted 04/26/09 12:46pm

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Reply #13 posted 04/26/09 12:56pm

tat2s

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Reply #14 posted 04/26/09 1:13pm

JayJai

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ludwig said:

NDRU said:

(though he seemed pretty comfortable with Tavis)

I disagree.His body language speaks volumes. I've just seen snippets of that interview, but the way he moves and changes position on that sofa is a clear sign of his discomfort. Also his voice is so low, flattering, unstable, shaky in most interviews. On stage he's the complete opposite, but he seems to be a very insecure person in private. Maybe it's different if he's surrounded with friends and no cameras, I don't know.
[Edited 4/25/09 16:53pm]

Prince has said time and time again that he doesn't like interviews.
I swear the words "HATER" is wayyy over-rated...smh
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Reply #15 posted 04/26/09 4:02pm

ludwig

JayJai said:

ludwig said:


I disagree.His body language speaks volumes. I've just seen snippets of that interview, but the way he moves and changes position on that sofa is a clear sign of his discomfort. Also his voice is so low, flattering, unstable, shaky in most interviews. On stage he's the complete opposite, but he seems to be a very insecure person in private. Maybe it's different if he's surrounded with friends and no cameras, I don't know.
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Prince has said time and time again that he doesn't like interviews.


Then he must be a masochist. biggrin

The question is WHY he's still so insecure. He gets so much love and praise for his achievements, but that obviously doesn't help him getting cooler in interviews. I really don't understand that.
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Reply #16 posted 04/26/09 6:12pm

Dayclear

tat2s said:

okay so I was looking at the previews for the Tavis show (the part where he talks about his youth and getting picked on). Do u think thats why he is always trying to buy the women in his life. Does he think he only has value because of his talents?

I took a marriage class when I was in college and we talked about how women tend to define themselves by their job titles. Like if you ask a woman 'who is she' women typically respond with job titles like "i'm a lawyer" or I'm a mother, or I'm a a wife.

I think P's female side takes over in this area because he seems to think no one is interested in him unless he has a guitar around his neck... so sad... I think he is MUCH more than just a musician/songwriter. He seems to be a very smart funny charming HUMAN BEING in general.

In his lyrics he always talks about attracting women because of his musician status too...

and he also talked about getting picked on when he was Oprah in 98..... sad


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Reply #17 posted 04/26/09 6:41pm

JayJai

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ludwig said:

JayJai said:


Prince has said time and time again that he doesn't like interviews.


Then he must be a masochist. biggrin

The question is WHY he's still so insecure. He gets so much love and praise for his achievements, but that obviously doesn't help him getting cooler in interviews. I really don't understand that.


I've gone through my entire teen yrs and into my 20s wit ppl starin at me cause of my bod,
but I'm still very uncomfortable when I get stared at.
Why is that?
I don't know confused
Do I understand why I feel uncomfortable?
No.
Am I insecure though...?...
No.
I swear the words "HATER" is wayyy over-rated...smh
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Reply #18 posted 04/26/09 9:06pm

tat2s

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I've gone through my entire teen yrs and into my 20s wit ppl starin at me cause of my bod,
but I'm still very uncomfortable when I get stared at.
Why is that?
I don't know confused
Do I understand why I feel uncomfortable?
No.
Am I insecure though...?...
No.[/quote]


haha well considering that your avatar is you in a bathing suit says a lot about ur insecurity hahahahaha... secure ppl don't run around naked looking for attention.

If u feel 'uncomfortable' being stared at than put some clothes on! hahahahaha
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Reply #19 posted 04/27/09 2:38am

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the root of narcissism is not self love, it's insecurity and self loathing and it can be caused by bad parenting (or narcissistic) parenting and trauma all of which John and Mattie unknowingly provided. Peers worsened the effects with teasing and that's when he went inward with music and developed another narcissitic trait of extreme self sufficency (produced, arranged, composed ect.) and super cool persona.The image with lots of make up, stylized photos, heels and idealized female protege's just scream insecurity.Lookily for him and us he is the greatest musician of our times and he was able to finish the deal. I lot of people believe if he were more emotionally healthy he'd have done this or that but surprise the entertainment industry is not the place for emotionally healthy people LOL.
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Reply #20 posted 04/27/09 3:04am

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I'm sure he has low balls. He is almost 51.
If prince.org were to be made idiot proof, someone would just invent a better idiot.
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Reply #21 posted 04/27/09 4:07am

jcurley

I do believe Prince to be insecure.It is possible to be both insecure and incredibly arrogant. One may have an irrational fear of what people think but if you are gorgeous you still know it-it just doesn't help you as much. I think the previous comment about narcissism was bang on.The irony is if you feel screwed up you can end up doing so much to yourself to improve -others may actually percieve it as confidence.Prince is a complete creation, which for him I suppose is a bit sad but for us without the massive insecurities he had/has we wouldn't know of him as he would probably have been happy to strum in a garage, there would be no hunger or obsessional behaviour
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Reply #22 posted 04/27/09 5:23am

Dayclear

I think Prince is very secure in knowing himself and his abilities, but he had to get to that point in life. He's just not comfortable around people. I don't like people either but that doesn't make a person insecure.
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Reply #23 posted 04/27/09 5:42am

Tremolina

Why do you think he has a narcistic, controlling personality?
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Reply #24 posted 04/27/09 5:43am

JayJai

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tat2s said:

JayJai said:


I've gone through my entire teen yrs and into my 20s wit ppl starin at me cause of my bod,
but I'm still very uncomfortable when I get stared at.
Why is that?
I don't know confused
Do I understand why I feel uncomfortable?
No.
Am I insecure though...?...
No.



haha well considering that your avatar is you in a bathing suit says a lot about ur insecurity hahahahaha... secure ppl don't run around naked looking for attention.

If u feel 'uncomfortable' being stared at than put some clothes on! hahahahaha
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lol I don't run around naked or even half-naked lookin for attention.
In that pic I was on the beach. Beach = bathing suit.
The way I normally dress, my knees upward are always covered and I don't even show cleavage or belly.
So don't use my avatar pic to judge my level of security or insecurity and it was pretty unreasonable tryna use a bathing suit pic to judge me too confused

(I knew I should've put "I was drawin a reference" b4 I made my post doh! )
I swear the words "HATER" is wayyy over-rated...smh
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Reply #25 posted 04/27/09 6:02am

Dayclear

Tremolina said:

Why do you think he has a narcistic, controlling personality?

Because he's a controlling, narcissist, but that doesn't make him insecure.
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Reply #26 posted 04/27/09 6:15am

khemseraph

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Everybody that has a close relationship with God...will eventually have low self esteem because we tend to feel responsible for the World's conditions...and sometimes helpless.

If anybody has low self-esteem...it's just a mood...no different from on top of the world party life... We are all loaded with everchanging and growing emotions that carry us through growth. People are emotional. It's a rollercoaster...what can ya do. cool

i think anyone period has low self-esteem.some of us show it more than others but our low self esteem is what builds up our courage...we have to get over it to get ourselves stronger.so its not a bad thing all the time.but its the one thing that drives and shapes all humans.
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Reply #27 posted 04/27/09 6:25am

GiGi319

I agree with dreamshaman32 and jcurley!
We all have insecurities in certain areas of our lifes. Nobody is completely secure all the time. Some people come across as being very confident but it could be just for show.
Being aware of your low self esteem isn't usually a bad thing. It can humble you and when people try to overcome their esteem issues it can propel them to achieve things that nobody thought possible.
love the one who is Love!
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Reply #28 posted 04/27/09 7:28am

JayJai

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GiGi319 said:

I agree with dreamshaman32 and jcurley!
We all have insecurities in certain areas of our lifes. Nobody is completely secure all the time. Some people come across as being very confident but it could be just for show.
Being aware of your low self esteem isn't usually a bad thing. It can humble you and when people try to overcome their esteem issues it can propel them to achieve things that nobody thought possible.


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I swear the words "HATER" is wayyy over-rated...smh
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Reply #29 posted 04/27/09 7:41am

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..She's Just A Baby..but she's my lady..my loveR..my only friend!..true love that will last!..PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND..WHAT SHE SEES IN AN OLDER MAN..they never stop 2 think that maybe i'm what she's looking 4..THEY NEVER TAKE THE TIME..2 look in her mind
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