Not bad. Would have been #1 easy with a real label.

http://www.hitsdailydoubl...?news07520

emesem said:

first not bad

mmm reali .... well thts is wonderful news for him if it did reach to no 1...
not bad for a early start at no 2 ....

someone is very lucky for prince in tht kind of way to make this good...

is this in the u.s or what? when will it be offical? please land @ #1

emesem said:

Not necessarily... he wouldn't have had ad spots airing on TV as frequently, during shows pulling 15-25 million viewers.

According to Billboard.com, Prince would have been #1 this week had his album came out on Tuesday instead of Sunday. But he's outselling everybody else so far. Here's the link.


http://www.billboard.com/...8005.story

gold31 said:

With the Target commercials now running in primetime, is it not possible that sales can pick up and he could still land at #1?

And why aren't the new videos going for adds on the music channels? What is he waiting for?

And I think he should get the new songs sent to the big market radio stations. How about starting in L.A. Then things might really take off.

What do you guys think?

Seventeen said:

What music video channels? MTV hasn't played a video in a long, long time. VH1 buries music videos during the wee hours of the moring. Target's promotions is worth a lot more than some music videos that would never be played. It terms of radio, I don't believe "pop" radio will embrace anything on this album. But, it still sells.

emesem said:

I don't think a "real label" would make any difference. If however, rhe eleased it on a Tuesday....

gold31 said:

I'm not sure where you are getting that idea. The article doesn't state that AT ALL.

jtfolden said:

" Prince's new album, "LotusFlow3r" (NPG), issued exclusively in the U.S. through Target stores on Sunday, March 29, leads Nielsen SoundScan's Building Chart, which was released today, April 1.

Yet, the album may not finish the week at No. 1.

Why? The Building Chart reflected unweighted sales through the close of business on Tuesday, March 31. Which means that new releases -- which almost always bow on Tuesday -- usually only have one day's worth of sales included on the Building Chart that is released on Wednesday of each week. However, Prince's album dropped on Sunday, so the Building Chart actually reflects the set's first three days worth of sales. "

Shango said:

Yes, and that doesn't state it would be #1 this week. Only that it looks better on this chart because they have 3 days of sales data for his album and only one day for the other new releases. This artificially inflates his presence on this chart. If the set had been released on Tuesday it would have been lower on the chart.
[Edited 4/1/09 21:09pm]

Prince's first week position will be based on Sunday and Monday's sales and be on the chart with everything that came out on Tuesday, March 24.

His 2nd week sales will be on the chart with what was released this week.

errant said:

Actually, I think the Billboard "week" begins Monday and ends Sunday. So only Sunday will go towards the first week sales.

jtfolden said:

I just checked. You're right. Which means we'll be seeing if more people bought it on the first day or in the following week combined.

errant said:

In a way, it's kind of interesting to have it divided like that. For the first time, we'll have a count of the die hard fans who have to buy it on the first day.

The Sunday numbers will be lumped in with the entire first week sales, otherwise he would have debuted on the chart this week. As with past Sunday releases (such as Guns N'Roses' Chinese Democracy) Billboard opted to include all numbers in the first full week.

And even if he doesn't remain ahead of Keith Urban for #1, his projected 130-140,000 total is very impressive. It nearly doubles the opening week numbers for Planet Earth. And he did it completely on his own terms, with no label, and no desperate attempts to appeal to younger buyers. #1 would be great and I hope he can pull it off, but #2 with those numbers and these circumstances is amazing. Good for him.

For anyone keeping score, this will be his 14th top ten album on the Billboard 200. If it does arrive in second place, it will be his first #2 album. He's had four #1 albums (Purple Rain, ATWIAD, Batman, and 3121) and four #3 albums (Parade, D&P, Musicology, and Planet Earth) but never a #2 album.

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[Edited 4/1/09 23:31pm]

renfield said:

Absolutely! Sunday's sales will be lumped in just like that of G'n'R. In any account I'm happy for P!
[Edited 4/1/09 22:22pm]

Smittyrock70 said:

So... did they start doing that for street-date violations as well then?

renfield said:

Not true. Musicology and 3121 were both over 180K in their first weeks. Still, it's damn impressive!

good hope he makes it to #1, even if it's only for a week

Great news! Prince seems to be doing many things right with this release. The Tonight Show gigs went well and the exclusive deal with Target was very saavy. I have been meaning to write a thread on how album sales didn't really matter any more, anticipating that this CD might only move 50 or 60 K. I mean U2's album is only in its first month and I think it only sold about 25,000 last week...and that is with heavy label promotion, Lettermen appearances etc. It's not just a Prince thing, album sales are massively down from the way they used to be because the model has so completely changed. But hearing this news about LF gets me excited about the commercial possibilities of this CD again.

That being said, what may eventually halt the sales may be the lack of a single as I see there is virtually no way P is going to get any of these songs playing on radio any time soon. Not trying to be negative but the dude's 50 and Top 40 doesn't play anyone over the age of 30 anymore. Urban Adult Contemporay stations have been the ONLY stations to play any of P's music over the past 5 years and I don't see how this will change.

Congrats on a Top 5 record and it will be interesting to see where it goes from here.

Moonbeam said:

You're right, I was having a total brain fart...numbers have been so bad lately I was thinking 90k and 80k instead of 190k and 180k. It is still impressive though, and a vast improvement over Planet Earth's performance!

sro100 said:

Exactly,and this is why Prince is crazy to turn his back on Youtube.The so-called "music video channels" don't even show videos anymore.All I ever see on those channels are stupid reality shows.Youtube is the new MTV.It's become a very effective marketing tool for artists and it's a shame that Prince won't take advantage of that.

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sro100 said:

Very wise words!
Hey Prince are you listening?

Not bad Mr. Nelson, not bad at all.

If he goes on tour (outside LA ) he'd get a lot of traction off this set.

I'm guessing they're counting the full 3-cd set as a single unit?

Any chart news outside the US?