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Thread started 04/01/09 10:04am

funkyhead

Anyone else feeling bad for P after all the so called 'reviews'..

I know in comparison to the G20 meeting this really shouldn't register but it's obvious that this is a great CD , I know he's loaded etc BUT reading those reviews really gets to me. There will not be a CD better , as varied , bold and creative as this in the whole of 09, what do critics think is a 4 star CD anyway?. I know it shouldn't matter and the success is in getting it out there but I still feel bad for the dude.[Lovesexy all over again!]
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Reply #1 posted 04/01/09 10:07am

Genesia

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I don't get the comparison between the album and the G20. Like journalists who cover the G20 would write about Lotusflow3r? confuse
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Reply #2 posted 04/01/09 10:13am

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What this G20? Another Prince project? Already?
If prince.org were to be made idiot proof, someone would just invent a better idiot.
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Reply #3 posted 04/01/09 10:16am

NouveauDance

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Reply #4 posted 04/01/09 10:24am

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don't feel bad for reviews! They don't mean shit in this day and age, they constantly brush off art and praise formulas instead.

Remember, SOTT, LS, ATWIAD, Parade were all criticised at 1st, some of those masterpieces still are!

Don't buy into reviews or any other statistic...let the art speak for itself and let Lotusflow3r blossom over time.
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Reply #5 posted 04/01/09 10:27am

LiveToTell86

No I don't feel bad *for* Prince because he definitely didn't release these albums to impress the critics and it's not like he would have sold more copies if all the critics loved it, that's not enough promo these days.
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Reply #6 posted 04/01/09 10:31am

amorbella

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No.
I really don't think he cares, two, three, four stars, whatever.He turned Sat into a dream come true for many fans...Yes, I did see unicorns giggle
Only Prince can perform over all the sound issues like a true genius. Smooth and collective.
AEG should be ashamed of themselves.
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Say it's just a dream...
U open up ur eyes and come 2 realize
u simply imagined this
So u lean over and give her a kiss
Here on earth, here on earth,
with u it's not so bad
Here on earth, here on earth
eye don't feel so sad
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Reply #7 posted 04/01/09 4:45pm

Tame

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I don't feel bad 4 Prince...because some of us love him unconditionally...That kind of love is priceless...and doesn't have a dollar attached to a review. cool
"The Lion Sleeps Tonight...
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Reply #8 posted 04/02/09 6:50am

funkyhead

Tame said:

I don't feel bad 4 Prince...because some of us love him unconditionally...That kind of love is priceless...and doesn't have a dollar attached to a review. cool

Well said. Looking at the sales figures so far it shows that the so called critics aren't as influential as they'd like to think they are, it's too easy to hide behind a keyboard / pen!.
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Reply #9 posted 04/02/09 1:31pm

kenlacam

After listening to the new music objectively, I must say that I don't feel bad for him. I like the new stuff somewhat (it will take several listens to get fully acclimated), but it sounds somewhat stale and generic to me.It dounds like 3121 all over again. A lot of it is self-indulgent music, and none of it screams "single". But that is ok, cause he is at the stage in his life where he doesn't need to put out "hits" (if he still can).
Plus he's famous and rich, so why even feel sorry for him at all? lol
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Reply #10 posted 04/02/09 1:39pm

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WetDream said:

don't feel bad for reviews! They don't mean shit in this day and age, they constantly brush off art and praise formulas instead.

Remember, SOTT, LS, ATWIAD, Parade were all criticised at 1st, some of those masterpieces still are!

Don't buy into reviews or any other statistic...let the art speak for itself and let Lotusflow3r blossom over time.


WORD fro Lotus Flower is one of his all time great pieces of work! Critics got too much earwax and no funk in their bones to notice they jus got a goldmine of music in their hands.
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Reply #11 posted 04/02/09 1:46pm

Whitnail

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squirrelgrease said:

What this G20? Another Prince project? Already?



spit
If it were not for insanity, I would be sane.

"True to his status as the last enigma in music, Prince crashed into London this week in a ball of confusion" The Times 2014
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Reply #12 posted 04/02/09 1:52pm

Riverpoet31

Nope, those reviews are rather 'right'.

Lotusflower is slightly better then Planet Earth, and MPLsound is a disgrace composition- and productionwise.

To be honest, i consider these reviews to be quite 'mild', considering the crap Prince is offering us on these new albums: especially on MPLsound and Elixir.
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Reply #13 posted 04/02/09 1:54pm

Graycap23

Lol.....Prince is way past critic comments.
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Reply #14 posted 04/02/09 1:55pm

Riverpoet31

Are you really that naive or stupid?

Get a life, please.
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Reply #15 posted 04/02/09 1:57pm

Ifsixwuz9

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No because most reviewers don't know what the hell they're talking about anyway. And this is not just in reference to Prince. They listen to see if the songs sound like what's already on the radio regardless of genre. And if they're not, it gets panned.

From a long time fans point of view whether you prefer Lotus or MPLS or various songs from each you essentially got one great Prince album, an album worth of
B-sides, and a protege album for $12.00.
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Reply #16 posted 04/02/09 2:01pm

purplecam

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No. The success is that the albums are out there for us to buy. Yes, I'm sure he wants sales or else why would he still be releasing music for the public but I would like to believe that the victory is just getting the music out the way HE wants it out there. Whether a critic digs it or not doesn't seem to phase him any and I'm glad it doesn't.
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Reply #17 posted 04/02/09 2:04pm

Riverpoet31

I disagree with you,

Most of those reviewers look through useless 'fandom'.

They are able to see a song like dance 4 me, doesnt measure up with a classic like Erotic Ciry at all.

They also see the Lotusflow3r album is full of new age nonsense, and that its using soundeffects and guitar-solo's to hide the fact that album lacks great songwriting.

It are mostly the so called prince 'fans' in here who simpy don't get this last cd-set is simply poor and mediocre.
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Reply #18 posted 04/02/09 2:28pm

thecloud

Nah I don't feel bad at all & I don't think P does either we're all use 2 it by now!
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Reply #19 posted 04/02/09 2:31pm

rbrpm

HOORAY ALL YA"LL! lol
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Reply #20 posted 04/02/09 2:43pm

Zannaloaf

some of the reviews are on target. It is a pretty weak collection. Especially to people who do not eat and breathe Prince (no slight intended). The songs are not really fleshed out. It mostly just jams and mediocre writing. But people can enjoy it or not. I just think it is unfair to act like reviewers are just "Prince bashing" when generally reviewers are pretty good to him since they seem to respect real music (even when not their cup of tea)
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Reply #21 posted 04/02/09 2:44pm

Moonbeam

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Ifsixwuz9 said:

No because most reviewers don't know what the hell they're talking about anyway. And this is not just in reference to Prince. They listen to see if the songs sound like what's already on the radio regardless of genre. And if they're not, it gets panned.

From a long time fans point of view whether you prefer Lotus or MPLS or various songs from each you essentially got one great Prince album, an album worth of
B-sides, and a protege album for $12.00.


That's not true at all. If anything, most critics have a bias against popular music, perhaps simply because it's popular. There is of course the "populist" movement that has slightly reversed that trend and has celebrated the likes of Lil Wayne, etc., but nearly all albums that are big hits are critically panned.
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Reply #22 posted 04/02/09 2:44pm

NDRU

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haha I feel bad for myself long before I feel bad for Prince!
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Reply #23 posted 04/02/09 4:32pm

2020

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Riverpoet31 said:

I disagree with you,

Most of those reviewers look through useless 'fandom'.

They are able to see a song like dance 4 me, doesnt measure up with a classic like Erotic Ciry at all.

They also see the Lotusflow3r album is full of new age nonsense, and that its using soundeffects and guitar-solo's to hide the fact that album lacks great songwriting.

It are mostly the so called prince 'fans' in here who simpy don't get this last cd-set is simply poor and mediocre.


And guess what goof ball we disagree with you and your overinflated opinions! How bout you get a life!!!
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Reply #24 posted 04/02/09 4:36pm

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2020 said:

Riverpoet31 said:

I disagree with you,

Most of those reviewers look through useless 'fandom'.

They are able to see a song like dance 4 me, doesnt measure up with a classic like Erotic Ciry at all.

They also see the Lotusflow3r album is full of new age nonsense, and that its using soundeffects and guitar-solo's to hide the fact that album lacks great songwriting.

It are mostly the so called prince 'fans' in here who simpy don't get this last cd-set is simply poor and mediocre.


And guess what goof ball we disagree with you and your overinflated opinions! How bout you get a life!!!
[Edited 4/2/09 16:33pm]


lol
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Reply #25 posted 04/02/09 5:08pm

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thecloud said:

Nah I don't feel bad at all & I don't think P does either we're all use 2 it by now!


Agree. I think negative press can do as much for an artist as positive. People gravitate to what someone says its not good for you and to avoid it. Someone once told me Prince wasn't good for me, and that was 29 years ago and I'm still here. thumbs up! worship dancing jig bananadance yes wildsign
eye love prince nana
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Reply #26 posted 04/02/09 5:09pm

nurseV

No-Prince has everything that one could possibly want. I would never feel bad for him because of some opinions. We all have those lol
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Reply #27 posted 04/02/09 5:29pm

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2020 said:

Riverpoet31 said:

I disagree with you,

Most of those reviewers look through useless 'fandom'.

They are able to see a song like dance 4 me, doesnt measure up with a classic like Erotic Ciry at all.

They also see the Lotusflow3r album is full of new age nonsense, and that its using soundeffects and guitar-solo's to hide the fact that album lacks great songwriting.

It are mostly the so called prince 'fans' in here who simpy don't get this last cd-set is simply poor and mediocre.


And guess what goof ball we disagree with you and your overinflated opinions! How bout you get a life!!!
[Edited 4/2/09 16:33pm]


spit
chill..prince doesnt like men being front row, makes it hard to sing the ballads
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Reply #28 posted 04/03/09 10:11am

Ifsixwuz9

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Moonbeam said:

Ifsixwuz9 said:

No because most reviewers don't know what the hell they're talking about anyway. And this is not just in reference to Prince. They listen to see if the songs sound like what's already on the radio regardless of genre. And if they're not, it gets panned.

From a long time fans point of view whether you prefer Lotus or MPLS or various songs from each you essentially got one great Prince album, an album worth of
B-sides, and a protege album for $12.00.


That's not true at all. If anything, most critics have a bias against popular music, perhaps simply because it's popular. There is of course the "populist" movement that has slightly reversed that trend and has celebrated the likes of Lil Wayne, etc., but nearly all albums that are big hits are critically panned.


My statement is true of the reviews I've read especially over the past ten years or so. If the music can't be compared to what already out more times than not it gets panned.
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Reply #29 posted 04/03/09 10:17am

sassybritches

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i havent read any reviews but from what i saw here, i thought they were all good. personally, i think the 3 records deserve harsh criticism. prince is far too talented to release such lame records. at this point in his career (as has been the case for many years now) prince could do with a producer or editor.

i'm only stating my opinion but of the 3 discs, only 8 songs in total made it to my laptop/jPod. that's not even a full length record...
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