errant said: no, but it's very good, and at this point it's as close to a masterpiece as i think we're ever going to get.
i hope i'm wrong about that, but i think it's been 14 years since he put out something this good, and i'm taking into account both discs. hopefully this is just the beginning of him reaching the heights that we know he is (or was) capable of, but even if it's not, i'm happy with this. but a masterpiece, no. a very satisfying return to form, yes. i want that ballroom dancing album ten or twelve tracks in the vein of '$' that shit would scare me but maybe i'd like it it's time for a new direction / it's time for jazz to die | |
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Brofie said: It has that special tingle that a great new Prince album gives you. You cant stop playing it. You hear something new and exciting every time you play it.
Rainbow Children was the last masterpiece that most of the world flat out slept on. Yes. | |
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Way too early to be talking about masterpieces and classics but the potential is definately there. I'm loving these CD's with each listen so that's a good sign for me. I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that | |
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No way.
Lotusflow3r is a slight improvement on Planet Earth, nothing more. MPLsound is every bit as worse as New Power Soul or the Slaughterhouse. Prince making a fool of himself. [Edited 3/31/09 22:36pm] | |
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GeminiBrown said: Coming from a 'lurker' around this site I must answer it depends on the listener.
The wonderful thing about Prince is that his music is so varied and scatterbrained....much like he is. When you have so much to offer from a soul like his you're going to have people who are overwhelmed,underwhelmed and just flat out indifferent. I mean this is a guy who showed everyone that he is a genius, but it seems no one can agree which album(s) or songs display his genius. It's futile to try to get a group of Prince fans to decide on what songs are genius, half- baked, necessary, loveable, or disposable because his ability to touch others through his music is widespread...someone is going to feel left out!!! Some people have been feeling left out since the late 80's, but that's another post . The real question is what does it do for you? Is it the work of a genius or someone imitating a genius? Do the songs satisfy that urge we all have as music lovers for you? I love a lot of songs/albums that get trashed around here, but people have the right to judge for themselves what they like or dislike. That's why I don't participate in the arguments over "what's better" "when he was at his best" or "if he should retire or not" because in my opinion it's useless. You either dig it or dismiss it. For some (myself included) this album is of superb quality and to others it's less than that, but if you find yourself listening to it alot...yeah it's probably a masterpiece....at least for you. [Edited 3/31/09 21:16pm] I agree with this. I think you can argue if something is well crafted but I'm not sure if there's a blanket definition for "masterpiece". That's subjunctive. | |
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interesting thread.
I think i'd agree with those saying that perhaps 'classic Prince' might be a better descriptor than 'masterpiece.' IMO yes, I think both albums will become viewed as this. As so many of you seem to be saying, and i agree, I can't get enough of these two albums. Something new to digest/ appreciate every listen. At the moment 'Home' is my groove - now THIS IMHO is absolute proof (to me lol) that there are prince classics on these releases. | |
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I can't stop listening to it! Definately a masterpiece!
The critics are not on board with this one. Cannot understand that. Brilliant tracks follow brilliant tracks! I've got a guitar that can part the sea. | |
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GeminiBrown said: I mean this is a guy who showed everyone that he is a genius, but it seems no one can agree which album(s) or songs display his genius. It's futile to try to get a group of Prince fans to decide on what songs are genius (...) The real question is what does it do for you? (...) For some (myself included) this album is of superb quality and to others it's less than that, but if you find yourself listening to it alot...yeah it's probably a masterpiece....at least for you.
My answer ! And someone used "back to form" sentence, which sounds very accurate here. A masterpiece would have redefined music (for some people SOTT did that). I don't think it's the goal here. [Edited 4/1/09 1:22am] | |
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7salles said: TRC pisses all over OK COMPUTER, KID A and PABLO HONEY ALTOGETHER
have never bothered to listen to pablo honey and the rainbow children is damn decent, but i'm not liking this statement at all life's a bitch, but god forbid the bitch divorce me...
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Moonbeam said: I wouldn't call it a masterpiece, but I'm enjoying it!
are definitely some masterpiece-ish moments on it though life's a bitch, but god forbid the bitch divorce me...
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Prince will 4ever have the potential...
Prince's career is a Masterpiece. U can't catch me... "The Lion Sleeps Tonight... | |
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MendesCity said: Nope. It's a solid B+, and could have been a masterpiece as one, better sequenced album. But as it stands, the two albums are a hair better than 3121 and Planet Earth, but not quite as good as Musicology.
Thankyou Musicology TRC are Great Albums from Prince | |
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Whitnail said: rainbow children was not a masterpiece, although it is probably the most complex album he has released, when one talks of masterpieces, one has to look at albums like Ok computer, Mezzanine, Diamond dogs and so on.
Outkasts double is considered a masterpiece, Princes new product is better than that, but the problem is Princes back catologue is simply unreal, where as outkasts is just so so. The greatest thing about the new Prince albums is, it showcases the state of modern music today, something Prince has complained about for yrs. It is a blatant statement to the so called music industry, which promotes rubbish to create money and sadly the youth of today consider the likes of Kanye, Timberland, Spears etc as peers. BTW Madonna can be thrown into that pot as well I know this isn't the main point of your post, but if there's an Outkast album that anyone credible considers a "masterpiece", I think it would have to be Aquemini. Any love critics gave Love Below / Speakerboxx was just based on prior reputation. No Candy 4 Me | |
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No...2 years without an album and we get 3 instermentals?WTF? | |
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If any of u think these aren't great albums, u'r crazy. It's that simple.
I've been a fan from the beginning and I cannot stop listening to both of them. People, he's on a whole 'nother level with these tracks. This is what we've been waiting for. Case closed. CCC "The password is what." | |
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Not sure about that. I don't think either disc is perfect.
My point of view is that either it is or is not a masterpiece based purely on quality, but it's up for history to decide if it's a classic (meaning people discover it and it stands the test of time). So maybe it's a masterpiece, but I doubt it'll become a classic. And I don't really think it's a masterpiece either. But I like it. My Legacy
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No, because Prince can never make anything like the 80s again. I enjoy the cds, but they do not have the strength of his old stuff or the killer songs. None of these songs would make it out of the vault in the 80s. A great pair of cds? Yes, but not even close to his great stuff. | |
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I think the reason they are not masterpieces is that there is too much to pick on.
I like the music a lot, but can't get away from being bothered by some of the lyrics. If the music is good enough I don't actually care what the lyrics are. But the music is not inspired enough to cover for the weak lyrics. So in my mind it's not a masterpiece. My Legacy
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7salles said: TRC pisses all over OK COMPUTER, KID A and PABLO HONEY ALTOGETHER
except not really | |
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