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Prince Music is underated. A few weeks ago I was watching this program on Vh1 about the roots of black music. It talked about where it came from,where it's orgins lays and of course the people that where responsible for the music. I thought it was a pretty interesting show, it was a mini serious covering black music from the late 30's to the mid 1990's, however. They where talking about how for a peroid time, somewhere around the late 70's after the Disco age was pretty much over, black music was lost, and the black artist wasn't sure as to which direction to music until a certain R&B Artist came along. Now I'm not that old, but I do remember in the eighties, especailly in 19984 Prince owned that year. He had a multi plantium album, numerous awards, and acheive quite alot during that year. It was really hard to get away from the purple explosion that seemed to happened across america during that year, but in this television program, when the 80's came up, they wanted to give Micheal Jackson all credit for saving black music, and I was furious. Yeah, Okay Micheal Jackson did have everybody trying to do the dance moves from the music video thriller,but when Prince came into the picture, he was doing new and innovative things. nobody could touch
Prince was so big, that Tipper Gore complained about the sexual content in his lryics of Darl Nikki. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that Micheal Jackson didn't do alot for black music, cuz he did. I won't deny the fact that MTV wouldn't play any black videos until Billie Jean came out, but don't deny the fact that Prince also had alot to do with also.If they're going to give credit to someone, they need to give credit when it's pass due, it's just right. Even in the late eighties when MJ was singing about I'm bad ... Prince was breaking astonishing world record for the soundtrack he produced Batman. Despite all of the things Prince has accomplished in music today. In the mainstream, If you ask a kid today about his music, all they will say is ... "ain't he gay?" or "When was the last time he had a new album out" and you know I blame the radio stations for that one 
Don't get me wrong, I'm not into commericailism at all, but Prince is one of the best musician of all time, yet ... you hear very little about his work and that just ticks me off... [This message was edited Sun Dec 8 5:15:15 PST 2002 by DigitalLisa] | |
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I don't know if this had anything to do with it, but Quincy Jones was the excutive producer of the show . | |
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DigitalLisa said: I don't know if this had anything to do with it, but Quincy Jones was the excutive producer of the show .
I don't think we'll be seeing a Prince MTV ICON show anytime soon ... | |
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DigitalLisa said: A few weeks ago I was watching this program on Vh1 about the roots of black music. It talked about where it came from,where it's orgins lays and of course the people that where responsible for the music. I thought it was a pretty interesting show, it was a mini serious covering black music from the late 30's to the mid 1990's, however. They where talking about how for a peroid time, somewhere around the late 70's after the Disco age was pretty much over, black music was lost, and the black artist wasn't sure as to which direction to music until a certain R&B Artist came along. Now I'm not that old, but I do remember in the eighties, especailly in 19984 Prince owned that year. He had a multi plantium album, numerous awards, and acheive quite alot during that year. It was really hard to get away from the purple explosion that seemed to happened across america during that year, but in this television program, when the 80's came up, they wanted to give Micheal Jackson all credit for saving black music, and I was furious. Yeah, Okay Micheal Jackson did have everybody trying to do the dance moves from the music video thriller,but when Prince came into the picture, he was doing new and innovative things. nobody could touch
Prince was so big, that Tipper Gore complained about the sexual content in his lryics of Darl Nikki. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that Micheal Jackson didn't do alot for black music, cuz he did. I won't deny the fact that MTV wouldn't play any black videos until Billie Jean came out, but don't deny the fact that Prince also had alot to do with also.If they're going to give credit to someone, they need to give credit when it's pass due, it's just right. Even in the late eighties when MJ was singing about I'm bad ... Prince was breaking astonishing world record for the soundtrack he produced Batman. Despite all of the things Prince has accomplished in music today. In the mainstream, If you ask a kid today about his music, all they will say is ... "ain't he gay?" or "When was the last time he had a new album out" and you know I blame the radio stations for that one
Don't get me wrong, I'm not into commericailism at all, but Prince is one of the best musician of all time, yet ... you hear very little about his work and that just ticks me off... [This message was edited Sun Dec 8 5:15:15 PST 2002 by DigitalLisa] i completely agree Lisa, what you're saying is so damn true. | |
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DigitalLisa said: I won't deny the fact that MTV wouldn't play any black videos until Billie Jean came out, but don't deny the fact that Prince also had alot to do with also.If they're going to give credit to someone, they need to give credit when it's pass due, it's just right.
You're so right! Wasn't PURPLE RAIN the MOST succesful rock'n'roll/music movie EVER made by (a) black artist(s)? Did Jackson do that? No! Prince & his producers did! In that perspective Prince and Purple Rain was very important but Prince was too weird. Even in those days a lot of people perceived Prince to be 'gay' while Jackson had a more 'friendly and commercial' image but we all know what he did to those kids, don't we?  | |
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while i agree Princes music is underrated, i think MJ's influence was way bigger, b it 4 the worse or the better. I no numbers don't talk quality, but numbers often say something about the impact someone has. U'r talking about the batman soundtrack, while MJ was talking about the best selling video of all time (Moonwalker) and the 2nd best selling album of all time (Bad). Bsides, and i haven't seen the show, i'm guessing they were talking about who had the biggest post-disco mainstream influence at the bginning of the 80ies, and imho that wouldn't b prince, especially when u look at the bigger picture. Anyweez, that doesn't deminish the facts Prince usually isn't getting the props he deserves. "It's better 2 B hated 4 what U R than 2 B loved 4 what U R not."
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SpcMs said: Anyweez, that doesn't deminish the facts Prince usually isn't getting the props he deserves.
That just depends on who you ask. Especially in recent years we've seen a lot of young artists give props to Prince. | |
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DigitalLisa said: Prince was breaking astonishing world record for the soundtrack he produced Batman. Huh? Anyway its success was the result of the whole Batman hype. Despite all of the things Prince has accomplished in music today. In the mainstream, If you ask a kid today about his music, all they will say is ... "ain't he gay?" or "When was the last time he had a new album out" and you know I blame the radio stations for that one
Who gives a fuck about what kids say? Do you think they listen to people like Little Richard, Stevie Wonder, Sly, Lennon etc? I doubt they acknowledge any great artists except for those who are still in the spotlight today. Don't get me wrong, I'm not into commericailism at all, but Prince is one of the best musician of all time, yet ... you hear very little about his work and that just ticks me off...
Again that goes for many great artists. [This message was edited Sun Dec 8 12:25:17 PST 2002 by joeycoco] | |
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familygroove said: Jackson had a more 'friendly and commercial' image but we all know what he did to those kids, don't we?
oops sorray, bad joke | |
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I think Prince told Quincy not too feature Him on that Show.and Prince has distanced Himself from the way he was in quite a few ways.nobody would Ever take Away His Impact.Prince&Michael Ran the 80's Period along with a few Other People making it Happen in a other wise Unfunky Era after 1984 IMHO. mistermaxxx | |
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DigitalLisa said: DigitalLisa said: I don't know if this had anything to do with it, but Quincy Jones was the excutive producer of the show .
I don't think we'll be seeing a Prince MTV ICON show anytime soon ... mistermaxxx | |
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DigitalLisa said: I don't know if this had anything to do with it, but Quincy Jones was the excutive producer of the show .
Even some Prince fans who aren't into Prince.org (I'll bet some shmucks here thought that wasn't possible) made the same observations you're making; it was a travesty for him not to be included. They also wondered if it had anything to do with Quincy producing the project. Honestly, I don't know, but nothing would surprise me. As far as his image and face being everywhere, Prince is not in the zeitgeist of today's music scene. I'm not sure that's a bad thing. But his musical influence is easily seen and heard. This post not for the wimp contingent. All whiny wusses avert your eyes. | |
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It's V-H1... WHAT DO YOU EXPECT?!! They have Michale Jckson weekends all the time. ~KiKi | |
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When your music is so hard to categorize you just don't fit into these simpleton musical mappings.
Two things these shows placate to: Popularity and musicians that can easily be defined. In other words, musicians who mostly did one thing and did it damn well. This is why musicians like Kraftwerk often get as much airtime as do the giants in the music field, because you can easily fit them into your mindlessly oversimplified view of the evolution of music. Oh yeah, I forgot, without them no one would have figured out how to use an electric keyboard. Their technique sprung straight from Zeus’s ass no doubt. No musician ever, even the greatest, push music evolution nearly as much as they get credited for. Everybody steals from the past. The greatest ones just bring more newness (read: creativity) to the table than those who are less important. | |
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Supernova said: DigitalLisa said: I don't know if this had anything to do with it, but Quincy Jones was the excutive producer of the show .
Even some Prince fans who aren't into Prince.org (I'll bet some shmucks here thought that wasn't possible) made the same observations you're making; it was a travesty for him not to be included. They also wondered if it had anything to do with Quincy producing the project. Honestly, I don't know, but nothing would surprise me. As far as his image and face being everywhere, Prince is not in the zeitgeist of today's music scene. I'm not sure that's a bad thing. But his musical influence is easily seen and heard. mistermaxxx | |
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lovebizzare said: It's V-H1... WHAT DO YOU EXPECT?!! They have Michale Jckson weekends all the time. that hasn't nothing too do with anything.&all they do is show older MJ Material anyway.they aren't under Contract too Show MJ.in fact IMHO MJ didn't get Enough Mention on that Vh1 special.mistermaxxx | |
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Prince is the best, point blank, but I guess in his own words, like he said, you must be prince before your king anyway | |
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mistermaxxx said: lovebizzare said: It's V-H1... WHAT DO YOU EXPECT?!! They have Michale Jckson weekends all the time. that hasn't nothing too do with anything.&all they do is show older MJ Material anyway.they aren't under Contract too Show MJ.in fact IMHO MJ didn't get Enough Mention on that Vh1 special.What? They can't show older Prince material? And you're right even MJ didn't get enough mention. I don't seem to like that station that much anymore. What I meant was that VH1 doesn't seem to mention Prince that much in their programs and that it's not very surprising to me. ~KiKi | |
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lovebizzare said: mistermaxxx said: lovebizzare said: It's V-H1... WHAT DO YOU EXPECT?!! They have Michale Jckson weekends all the time. that hasn't nothing too do with anything.&all they do is show older MJ Material anyway.they aren't under Contract too Show MJ.in fact IMHO MJ didn't get Enough Mention on that Vh1 special.What? They can't show older Prince material? And you're right even MJ didn't get enough mention. I don't seem to like that station that much anymore. What I meant was that VH1 doesn't seem to mention Prince that much in their programs and that it's not very surprising to me. mistermaxxx | |
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