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Reply #30 posted 03/05/09 6:59pm

murph

jdcxc said:

murph said:





With all due respect....Now this^^^^I don't agree with...It was never my intention to say anything like that...


What I meant was this: making extremist statements concerning Prince's music is shakey either way...

The Guardian was lazy for saying that Prince has not released a "good" album in 20 years.....albums like the Batman Soundtrack, The Gold Experience, The Truth (close to great), Emancipation and The Rainbow Children were "good" releases...Again, these albums were not GREAT...But they were def. good...

But I'm not going to go too far to say that no other artist compares to Prince's best work over the last 20 years...Because that's simply not the case...


Alright, give me an artist who has had the same wealth of material and musical highpoints over the last twenty years. It's not that easy.


There are quite a few...Rather than name them, I'll just say this:


Extreme viewpoints are not mutually exclusive...Peace...
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Reply #31 posted 03/05/09 10:17pm

PinKing71

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somebody send Prince 64 blow-jobs so he doesn't get suicidal

to think there are people out there with such life-threatening opinions

its ghastly i tell you

truly ghastly
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Reply #32 posted 03/06/09 1:58am

Dayclear

Is there a reason we should care about this crap? It's just some reporters opinion. confused
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Reply #33 posted 03/06/09 2:04am

LondonStyle

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Every paper has one reporter that does not like Prince ....

In his home town, In the US , In the UK , In Ireland ..... lol lol

.....next..... rolleyes
Da, Da, Da....Emancipation....Free..don't think I ain't..! London 21 Nights...Clap your hands...you know the rest..
James Brown & Michael Jackson RIP, your music still lives with us!
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Reply #34 posted 03/06/09 5:45am

Graycap23

Bottom line.....if u dig Prince, the article is meaningless.
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Reply #35 posted 03/06/09 8:41am

murph

PurpleKnight said:

murph said:



There's no valid point with that P.K.....You want to say the man has made some shit albums after his '80s prime?....Yeah, that's true...No doubt...

Or you want to say he hasn't made a "great" album in 20 years, I can go with that as well...In fact, I've said in the past that he hasn't truly made a "GREAT" work in 20 years and got shitted on by some of the Org faithful...

But no good albums in 20 years?...

Nah, that's kinda bullshit...lol

It's okay to be a realest on these boards and state the truth amongst fans who think that Mr. Nelson is a God and can turn the sky Purple with a snap...I catch some snipes for being truthful about the man's flaws as well...

But sometimes folks try a little too hard to be Org rebels...lol



No, the problem is that you have poor reading comprehension.

The author makes it very clear that Prince having gone twenty years without making a good album is "arguable."

The writer is expressing his opinion while acknowledging the subjectivity of what constitutes a decent album.

His argument is valid because it's completely true that people go to see Prince perform his most popular songs from the 80's.

For the record, my assessment of his argument has nothing to do with my personal opinion of Prince's music. I mean, I love many albums from the last twenty years of Prince's career.
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Oh. I read it homie....And I still think it was an extreme statement...Of course when people come to hear Prince in concert, they want to hear his '80s prime stuff..

But when people come to see say a Bruce Sprinsteen they come to hear his '70s and early '80s shit...When people come to hear Neil Young they want his '70s work... But that doesn't mean both of those guys haven't made "good" albums...No one would make such a statement...


Again, it was a lazy statement...And tacking "arguable" on it was lame, as if the writer wanted a little wiggle room....lol....And the comment was dropped to make some kind of point in relation to Michael Jackson's comeback.....

In all, it was lazy...
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Reply #36 posted 03/06/09 9:39am

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Here's the deal. What one person considers as "good" may be someone elses "great" and vice versa. I'm not a fan of people quickly dismissing Prince's work but the writers view is just that his or her view. It's not true to me but that's me. This is a case of agreeing to disagree.
I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that
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Reply #37 posted 03/06/09 9:58am

Dayclear

purplecam said:

Here's the deal. What one person considers as "good" may be someone elses "great" and vice versa. I'm not a fan of people quickly dismissing Prince's work but the writers view is just that his or her view. It's not true to me but that's me. This is a case of agreeing to disagree.

I agree totally!
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Reply #38 posted 03/06/09 1:09pm

PurpleKnight

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murph said:

PurpleKnight said:

He doesn't personally like Prince's albums of the last twenty years, and many other people obviously feel the same way. I still don't see the problem here. It's not like he wrote that Prince is an asshole.



The problem: it is indeed a lazy statement...

Do you actually agree that Prince has not released a "good" album since 1989?....As I pointed out previously, I have no problem with being honest about Prince's work...I can say with all honesty that Prince has not released a GREAT album in 20 years...I can say that over the last decade, Prince's "greatness" has been seen on the concert stage and not on his recordings...

The problem with the Guardian's one-liner is that it seemed like a drive-by just to be cute...

A better statement that could have been made?: "Prince has not released a "good-great" album in 10 years"....But the problem with that statement is it's not shocking enough...It's not ballsy enough...It doesn't make a "statement" in the context of a Michael Jackson comeback (ie--Mike hasn't released a great album in 20 years...but he can make a comeback performing at the 02 because Prince, who also hasn't made any good albums in 20 years, was able to do it...)

As a journalist myself, that shit is truly lazy...It's the easy way out...
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It's a lazy statement because you don't agree with it. I already stated what I think about Prince's output of the last twenty years. It doesn't mean that many people don't genuinely believe he hasn't made anything good since Lovesexy.

Art is subjective. The whole thing to keep in mind here is that the writer still basically nailed the main point: people are turning out in droves to hear material from Prince's most populist works.
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