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Reply #30 posted 03/05/09 1:04pm

Paris9748430

Yeah, the Black Album is awesome.

I've always wondered what Cindy Crawford's reaction was to Cindy C.

Has anyone heard any stories???
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Reply #31 posted 03/05/09 1:27pm

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bob george is just a classic

the drum solo breakdown on 2 nigs is just stupid wicked funk!!
man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81
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Reply #32 posted 03/05/09 1:40pm

herb4

I really like this record. There's really not a skippable song on the whole thing, which in Princeville is saying a lot.

I remember when I got it though it was on cassette and somehow whoever recorded it did so at a slightly slower speed than 33 rpm, or whatever it the proper speed was, so for years my funk timing was off on the whole thing. When I finally got the CD in proper - and to this day really - it sounds too fast because I was so conditioned to hearing it at the slower speed.

It's a pretty damned good album though. I can't hear anything on this disc any darker or "evil" than, say, "Turn Me Loose." I think Prince masterminded the whole "pull the record" thing as well-planned publicity stunt and as a way to exercise his incessant need for control and manipulation.
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Reply #33 posted 03/06/09 1:02am

BoySimon

This is such a cool thread... haven't read such a positive thread for quite some time... I DO hope Prince is reading too biggrin ... It would be so cool if Rock Hard made a cameo appearance at his next high profile party...

The Black album is, as some one has pointed out, such a cool follow up to Sign O The Times. back in the UK Q magazine wrote an article/editorial about the SOTT - Black - Lovesxy sequence and felt it was Prince as his zenith. I've spent many years arguing against this theory but now, with hindsight (and a proper appreciation), I believe they could have been right.

Best moment of the rebirth of this album in my household was my wife closing the doors so that my dancing two year old couldn't hear the cursing of Bob George... oh, how I rolled my eyes.
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Reply #34 posted 03/06/09 1:31am

Dayclear

Maybe I'd better listen to it again, I never really liked that one. confused
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Reply #35 posted 03/06/09 1:38am

eaglebear4839

The Black Album is a good album, and deserves its place in the discography, but it was a time period.
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Reply #36 posted 03/06/09 1:50am

LilCub

Wouldnt it be great to hear this - if not all - of Prince's album's remastered.
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Reply #37 posted 03/06/09 4:48am

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Dayclear said:

Maybe I'd better listen to it again, I never really liked that one. confused


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Reply #38 posted 03/06/09 5:00am

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Reply #39 posted 03/06/09 8:46am

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Consistantly in my top 5 fave albums by the guy. Not a bad track on there.
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Reply #40 posted 03/06/09 9:08am

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herb4 said:

I remember when I got it though it was on cassette and somehow whoever recorded it did so at a slightly slower speed than 33 rpm, or whatever it the proper speed was, so for years my funk timing was off on the whole thing. When I finally got the CD in proper - and to this day really - it sounds too fast because I was so conditioned to hearing it at the slower speed.


I bought a cassette of The Black Album from some dude on the street in NY but I had the opposite problem - my copy was recorded at a slightly faster speed. Was a weird shock when I heard the authorised version.
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Reply #41 posted 03/06/09 2:25pm

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Black Album is my favorite Prince album... the one played the most out of all of them. Who knows how it would strike me if it had been a legit release back in 1988.

Listened to it nonstop from bootleg 1988 til the official release in 1994... bought so many versions in between...
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Reply #42 posted 03/06/09 4:35pm

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Just dropped that Cd in my car raidio..had it there for 5 days....As it turned out I found myself liking it even more that i did when it came out.
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Reply #43 posted 03/07/09 8:01am

Tuffty

Listened to it recently and it's just soo good. Dead On It is such an amazing song.

A shame then that there's no chance of getting it remastered. Playing Superfunkycalifragisexy on the car stereo is not as loud as I would like it to be.
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Reply #44 posted 03/07/09 8:11am

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IstenSzek said:


so many classic, cool lyrics. you'd be hard pressed to find this many
worthy quotes on the last 3 albums combined and the black album was a
8 song album with 1 instrumental.


and at that the music describes the lyrics perfectly

that album, there are no words to describe it

i dont think there ever has been or could be another like it, ever.

its in a genre all its own
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Reply #45 posted 03/20/09 7:25am

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It's slammin'! I'd love to dance to Le Grind or Supercalifragisexy during prince parties dancing jig
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Reply #46 posted 03/20/09 8:25am

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It's slammin'! I'd love to dance to Le Grind or Supercalifragisexy during prince parties dancing jig




It was at a dance club that Prince took the Black album to get a crowd feel for it, there he met Ingrid, who no doubt had a hand in talking him out of releasing it,

He went to Rupert's a Minneapolis dance club secretly and had it played to get a feelthat's where he met Ingred Chavez

I'll post the story later, but I think it's called Black Monday or something like that. It involves the Black album, Ingrid Chavez, Susan Rogers leaving,...





Almost immediately after the decision to shelve it, the Black Album emerged on the streets in bootleg form, arguably becoming popular music's most legendary bootleg, after The Basement Tapes and Smile. Several celebrities, including U2's frontmen The Edge and Bono, cited it as one of their favorite albums of 1988 (Rolling Stone magazine celebrity poll). By the time it was released by Warner Bros. legitimately in November 1994 (again, containing only a track listing and a new catalog number—45793—printed onto the disc itself and only legal copy appearing on the spine), almost every dedicated Prince fan already owned an illegal copy. It was released in a strictly limited edition and deleted by Warner Bros. the following January. It is believed that this release was legitimized so that Prince could get out of his new 7-album contract with the label, which he had signed the previous year and regretted instantly, because he wanted ownership of his recordings, a rarity in the music industry. Soon before the release of The Black Album, Prince started to appear with the word "slave" written on his face and changed his legal name to an unpronounceable symbol.
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Reply #47 posted 03/20/09 9:15am

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There was some work done (or intention to work with) the mastertapes in 1991 by Kirky J.

I cannot imagine that it would end well to be honest.
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Reply #48 posted 03/20/09 10:16am

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BoySimon said:

I've just been trawling through a cupboard and a box of tapes and I found my old copy of the Black Album. hadn't heard it in years... put it on... oh, how I enjoyed it.... and, curiously, considered the sequencing exceptionally clever - especially that of When 2 R In Love after Dead On It. It's odd, that with hindsight, how spot on Dead On It is/was about so much of rap... but then again, if he'd spoofed metal or R'n'B you could probably say the same... but, to follow this attack up with such a beautifully composed piece is truly inspired.

I REALLY want Prince to start playing Rock Hard In A Funky Place again live.


the Black Album is just nuts.... pure genius. Just another example of the dizzying gifts and heights this man was operating at between 1983-1989. In 6 years Prince went from 1999 to The Black Album.... now think of all that music/material covered between those years!
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Reply #49 posted 03/20/09 11:47am

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Paris9748430 said:

Yeah, the Black Album is awesome.

I've always wondered what Cindy Crawford's reaction was to Cindy C.

Has anyone heard any stories???


I remember seeing Cindy on Oprah years ago when Oprah played a few seconds of the song and asked her about it. I don't recall her exact answer (it's a long time ago now), but I recall her reply being along the lines of being flattered by the song and not taking it too seriously. I think she also said that she hadn't actually met him, but that she was a fan.

I'm a fan of this album too, though I've always preferred the muddy,bass heavy sound of my old boot copy to the thin, clean sheen of the official release.
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Reply #50 posted 03/20/09 2:03pm

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OldFriends4Sale said:

MarySharon said:

It's slammin'! I'd love to dance to Le Grind or Supercalifragisexy during prince parties dancing jig




It was at a dance club that Prince took the Black album to get a crowd feel for it, there he met Ingrid, who no doubt had a hand in talking him out of releasing it,

He went to Rupert's a Minneapolis dance club secretly and had it played to get a feelthat's where he met Ingred Chavez

I'll post the story later, but I think it's called Black Monday or something like that. It involves the Black album, Ingrid Chavez, Susan Rogers leaving,...





Almost immediately after the decision to shelve it, the Black Album emerged on the streets in bootleg form, arguably becoming popular music's most legendary bootleg, after The Basement Tapes and Smile. Several celebrities, including U2's frontmen The Edge and Bono, cited it as one of their favorite albums of 1988 (Rolling Stone magazine celebrity poll). By the time it was released by Warner Bros. legitimately in November 1994 (again, containing only a track listing and a new catalog number—45793—printed onto the disc itself and only legal copy appearing on the spine), almost every dedicated Prince fan already owned an illegal copy. It was released in a strictly limited edition and deleted by Warner Bros. the following January. It is believed that this release was legitimized so that Prince could get out of his new 7-album contract with the label, which he had signed the previous year and regretted instantly, because he wanted ownership of his recordings, a rarity in the music industry. Soon before the release of The Black Album, Prince started to appear with the word "slave" written on his face and changed his legal name to an unpronounceable symbol.
[Edited 3/20/09 8:52am]


I might also add that Warners pressured Prince not to release The Black Album because they felt it threatened his involement in the Batman project which he coveted
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Reply #51 posted 03/20/09 2:05pm

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TwiliteKid said:

Paris9748430 said:

Yeah, the Black Album is awesome.

I've always wondered what Cindy Crawford's reaction was to Cindy C.

Has anyone heard any stories???


I remember seeing Cindy on Oprah years ago when Oprah played a few seconds of the song and asked her about it. I don't recall her exact answer (it's a long time ago now), but I recall her reply being along the lines of being flattered by the song and not taking it too seriously. I think she also said that she hadn't actually met him, but that she was a fan.

I'm a fan of this album too, though I've always preferred the muddy,bass heavy sound of my old boot copy to the thin, clean sheen of the official release.


1st I ever heard that one
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Reply #52 posted 03/20/09 2:06pm

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Alexandernvrmind said:

OldFriends4Sale said:





It was at a dance club that Prince took the Black album to get a crowd feel for it, there he met Ingrid, who no doubt had a hand in talking him out of releasing it,

He went to Rupert's a Minneapolis dance club secretly and had it played to get a feelthat's where he met Ingred Chavez

I'll post the story later, but I think it's called Black Monday or something like that. It involves the Black album, Ingrid Chavez, Susan Rogers leaving,...





Almost immediately after the decision to shelve it, the Black Album emerged on the streets in bootleg form, arguably becoming popular music's most legendary bootleg, after The Basement Tapes and Smile. Several celebrities, including U2's frontmen The Edge and Bono, cited it as one of their favorite albums of 1988 (Rolling Stone magazine celebrity poll). By the time it was released by Warner Bros. legitimately in November 1994 (again, containing only a track listing and a new catalog number—45793—printed onto the disc itself and only legal copy appearing on the spine), almost every dedicated Prince fan already owned an illegal copy. It was released in a strictly limited edition and deleted by Warner Bros. the following January. It is believed that this release was legitimized so that Prince could get out of his new 7-album contract with the label, which he had signed the previous year and regretted instantly, because he wanted ownership of his recordings, a rarity in the music industry. Soon before the release of The Black Album, Prince started to appear with the word "slave" written on his face and changed his legal name to an unpronounceable symbol.
[Edited 3/20/09 8:52am]


I might also add that Warners pressured Prince not to release The Black Album because they felt it threatened his involement in the Batman project which he coveted


Sorry, what's your source for that? The Black Album was due to come out in December 1987. Prince didn't get involved with Batman until a year or more afterwards. Also, Lovesexy was released in between. Doesn't really add up.
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Reply #53 posted 03/20/09 2:29pm

luvsexy4all

its always good to hear peoples new found interest in the glory of this lp....negativity in black notwithstanding
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Reply #54 posted 03/20/09 4:35pm

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Rockhard and Superfunkycalifrajisexy are definately in my top 10 biggrin
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Reply #55 posted 03/20/09 4:43pm

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I always thought it would have been cool if he would have made double album with Lovesexy - a kind of back and white album.
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Reply #56 posted 03/20/09 10:55pm

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worship 1 of my favez!
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Reply #57 posted 03/21/09 1:00am

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Alexandernvrmind said:


I might also add that Warners pressured Prince not to release The Black Album because they felt it threatened his involement in the Batman project which he coveted


This is not on the same timeline and has no relation with eachother.There is more a relation between the overflooding of the market after Sign Of The Times which was an expensive record in term of producing the record and selling it. After every record there has to be enough time to promote it and sell singles of it.
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Reply #58 posted 03/21/09 10:43am

lemoncrush59

I always see this album as Lovesexy's evil twin sister.
Where Lovesexy was once my favourite Prince album, now I actually prefer the Black Album.
Cindy C is in my top 5 Prince songs.

evillol Black Album

angel Lovesexy
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Reply #59 posted 03/21/09 11:56am

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I still display my now worthless commercial / non-boot release Black Album LP proudly. Then I shed a tear when I recall how much I paid for the damn thing.

Very interesting point about it being the evil twin of LoveSexy. Never thought of it that way. I wish the audio was a little more polished in some places, but then again that might take away from the feel. Great album.
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