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Reply #30 posted 03/06/09 10:40am

veronikka

Jeffiner said:

veronikka said:





reading


wink That's just a few I found earlier, quite quickly, there are lots and lots of similar threads! Just need to look for them.



these were in one of those threads

http://prince.org/msg/7/262013
http://prince.org/msg/5/265634
http://prince.org/msg/7/232204
http://prince.org/msg/7/174768
http://prince.org/msg/7/258975
http://prince.org/msg/8/134814

not sure if these are some you already posted
Rhythm floods my heart♥The melody it feeds my soul
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Reply #31 posted 03/06/09 10:46am

Jeffiner

veronikka said:

Jeffiner said:



wink That's just a few I found earlier, quite quickly, there are lots and lots of similar threads! Just need to look for them.



these were in one of those threads

http://prince.org/msg/7/262013
http://prince.org/msg/5/265634
http://prince.org/msg/7/232204
http://prince.org/msg/7/174768
http://prince.org/msg/7/258975
http://prince.org/msg/8/134814

not sure if these are some you already posted


Yeah, courtesy of Langebleu.... a couple are, the 'Is Prince Evil' one is one I was looking for earlier - lol Cool!

http://prince.org/msg/7/205822

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Reply #32 posted 03/06/09 12:05pm

Linn4days

Masonic

(My Opinion)



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Reply #33 posted 03/06/09 12:26pm

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Dayclear said:

I heard the pyramid and the ever seeing 'eye' were masonic symbols, but I'm not saying it. disbelief

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Reply #34 posted 03/06/09 1:12pm

florescent

Thanks Jeffiner. That's another one solved smile
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Reply #35 posted 03/06/09 1:22pm

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Prince frequently covering Whole Lotta Love. Jimmy Page, an occult icon.
If prince.org were to be made idiot proof, someone would just invent a better idiot.
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Reply #36 posted 03/06/09 1:43pm

Jeffiner

florescent said:

Thanks Jeffiner. That's another one solved smile
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No probs.. wink
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Reply #37 posted 03/06/09 4:11pm

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Soulstar77A said:

TheFreakerFantastic said:

Yes, there is some masonic reference I feel, especially when you consider the theme of The Gold Experience which has references to the Order of the Golden Dawn which is related to freemasonry. The pyramid and all seeing eye symbols are also freemasonry symbols, in fact the US dollar note is covered in them.So has anyone here ever tried to find evidence if P is a freemason? A lot of talented people through history have been and have been known to be.

I think he's also thought of Egypt as a special place, and it does seem so, as the pyramids etc are very complex in design....i'll soon find out as I'm going there myself soon!
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There's a site on the net which claims that the whole Jehovas Witness "cult" is based on fremasonery ideas... I posted the link to it on another thread on P and the occult here on the org

Very interested in the "Golden Dawn" references on TGE that you mention!
Could you please name some of them?


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Reply #38 posted 03/06/09 4:16pm

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I am pretty sure Prince knows what that symbol means to him...I have tried to break down segments of his sybol and used my imagination and have come up with some wild ideas to what that symbol relly means...All i know is ...I hope my ideas are Real.
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Reply #39 posted 03/06/09 11:16pm

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Yo, I was watching some videoes about the occult and hiphop on youtube. One of them pretty said that 2pac was killed because he refused to be a part of the occult. After learning that, Im convinced there's a reason that he called his last album "Killumanti". 2pac was killed in Las Vegas and we all know there's plenty of Illumanti symbolism in Vegas such as Luxor hotel, which is exactly where 2pac was staying when he was in Vegas!!!!


And so now you're telling me that Prince is down with them?
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Reply #40 posted 03/07/09 2:30am

HurricaneAnnie

some people use sacred symbols to benefit the rest of the world and others use them to rip the ass out of your wallet.

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ripped a ceiling off a church and killed everyone in sight
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Reply #41 posted 03/07/09 6:46am

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Prospect said:

Yo, I was watching some videoes about the occult and hiphop on youtube. One of them pretty said that 2pac was killed because he refused to be a part of the occult. After learning that, Im convinced there's a reason that he called his last album "Killumanti". 2pac was killed in Las Vegas and we all know there's plenty of Illumanti symbolism in Vegas such as Luxor hotel, which is exactly where 2pac was staying when he was in Vegas!!!!


And so now you're telling me that Prince is down with them?



is YO avatar from that mcdonalds commercial?



common girl dont be stingAY (with that 10 piece nugget)


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Reply #42 posted 03/07/09 1:59pm

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Cuddles said:

Prospect said:

Yo, I was watching some videoes about the occult and hiphop on youtube. One of them pretty said that 2pac was killed because he refused to be a part of the occult. After learning that, Im convinced there's a reason that he called his last album "Killumanti". 2pac was killed in Las Vegas and we all know there's plenty of Illumanti symbolism in Vegas such as Luxor hotel, which is exactly where 2pac was staying when he was in Vegas!!!!


And so now you're telling me that Prince is down with them?



is YO avatar from that mcdonalds commercial?



common girl dont be stingAY (with that 10 piece nugget)


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LOL! Nah, its the cover of Jesse Powell's JP album.
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Reply #43 posted 03/08/09 12:46am

Soulstar77A

So i've read all those threads that have been posted here, but where can i find the old one that is mentioned several times by blackguitaristz and others?
I mean the one about the sign on Princes candle and goats and stuff???

If anybody knows how and where to find this particular thread, then please give me a hint!
THANKS!
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Reply #44 posted 03/08/09 4:04pm

LadyofTheLake

* "Theres Others Here With Us" - The song title says it all...

That song gives me the creeps in a BIG way. Oh, and sometimes I'll look up the old thread about Prince and the Occult - read the whole thing, and have nightmares. It's a classic!
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Reply #45 posted 03/08/09 4:57pm

Soulstar77A

LadyofTheLake said:

Oh, and sometimes I'll look up the old thread about Prince and the Occult - read the whole thing, and have nightmares. It's a classic!


Yeah but WHERE is it? I just cant find it sad
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Reply #46 posted 03/09/09 1:03am

RunAmok

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..the pyramids mean many things...i can go 4ever on the subject..but 4 the sake of it the 2pyramids when u put them into each other(right-side up & up-side down)..they form a 6-point star,in the Bible it is the star of david...
..mzsexybaby eye


when two pyramids unite nod
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Reply #47 posted 03/09/09 1:09am

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Reply #48 posted 03/10/09 8:29am

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Interesting...found the link to the topic i saw on here a while back, a bit reactionary but makes some interesting observations!

http://prince.org/msg/7/92268

Also look at: http://www.golden-dawn.org/
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Reply #49 posted 03/10/09 11:02am

Soulstar77A

florescent said:

I've often wondered what the backwards stuff is at the end of Darling Nikki... what is is all about? Can anyone enlighten me?


This is a nice theory about what "Darling Nikki" REALLY is about!

Someone posted it on another website for discussing the meaning of Rock songs (Source: http://www.songmeanings.n...ew/92279/)

"I think that this song is an intentional jab at the Moral Majority. I don't feel that this song is about having sex with a hooker.
In truth, I believe that Nikki is the Devil. Old Nick is one of Satan's nicknames.The singer signs on the dotted line to seal the contract on his soul. What he is selling it for is unknown - maybe just an amazing sexual experience?
However, "my body will never be the same," makes me think that he sells his soul for some physical change or attribute, and that the sex is either a bonus to the actual transformation, or else a a metaphor for the change.

The use of the word "castle" indicates one of royalty (Satan being the leader of hell), and to tempt people, there is everything that money could buy.

His head is spinning, not knowing what he's in store for - this is a hallmark of the individual that undergoes a transformation.

Her love will kick your behind - she'll show no mercy --- could be attributes of Satan.

The backmasking at the end? Certainly a wink at religious zealots who claim that rock is evil, and that Satan hides messages in backwards lyrics. In this case, Prince laughs at them by telling them what they already believe - that The Lord is coming soon.

The word grind makes me think, though. Rather than being a euphemism for sex, I wonder if the word GRIND is using the definition "WORK" -- The Devil works His magic.

Interestingly enough, and this is probably just a few irrelevant coincidences, but in 1985, there was a Broadway play that bombed called GRIND. First coincidence, the director was Hal Prince. Second coincidence, it was about an African-American, nineteen-thirties burlesque house. Third, it featured a character that is a stripper, named Satin (satan?)."


THAT SUMS IT UP PRETTY MUCH cool
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Reply #50 posted 03/10/09 11:07am

Soulstar77A

And another very nice and funny read regarding the "satanic Prince" that i found while searching on the net for P and the Occult biggrin
"When Rebellion is Mainstream" - Check it out:
http://www.wittandwisdom....lion_.html
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Reply #51 posted 03/10/09 11:12am

Soulstar77A

TheFreakerFantastic said:

Interesting...found the link to the topic i saw on here a while back, a bit reactionary but makes some interesting observations!

http://prince.org/msg/7/92268

Also look at: http://www.golden-dawn.org/
[Edited 3/10/09 8:36am]


Thank you so much for posting cool
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Reply #52 posted 03/11/09 12:25pm

RunAmok

-see above-

1. Charles T. Russel, founder of the Jehovah Witnesses
2. Charles T. Russel's Masonic pyramid-shaped tomb
3. Charles T. Russel's Bible chart using pyramids to diagram the end-times

more info... google worketh 4 meh
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Reply #53 posted 03/11/09 1:51pm

Riverpoet31

Geeze... are there really people here who think that Prince might be 'satanic' in the end? Christians, beware! biggrin

To be a bit more serious: I think those 'occult' references showing up in Princes lyrics are simply reflecting his interests in religion, philosophy and spirituality.
Often he doesnt succeed to express this interest in his lyrics in a very convincing way, it all comes over rather cryptic and sometimes even misplaced, but in the end it is nothing more then him taking bits and pieces he thinks he can relate to, and incorporating them in his lyrics, which still show the traditional 'catholic guilt' he began with in 1978.
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Reply #54 posted 03/11/09 3:11pm

Erika2k8

stop reading so much into things!
so what he has a damn pyramid DOEs it mean hes part of an occult
prince seems that kinda dude if he was into that he would be real NOT give a damn and say
these are people who are usin a bit of HOCUS POCUS on their records:
LADY GA GA
and
ESTELLE
i dont know what they do BUT people who buy there albums no matter if its shit quality
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Reply #55 posted 03/11/09 3:48pm

Soulstar77A

Riverpoet31 said:

Princes lyrics are simply reflecting his interests in religion, philosophy and spirituality.


yeah add the word "magick" and you've got pretty much everything the occult world is about wink
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Reply #56 posted 03/11/09 3:52pm

Soulstar77A

Erika2k8 said:

stop reading so much into things!
so what he has a damn pyramid DOEs it mean hes part of an occult


No, you all just dont understand! Reading much into things is the fun part about this thread! So if you see a topic called "Prince and the Occult" - Just dont klick it please!!!! razz

There are many many more occult references in P's work than just a simple pyramid. Trust me! cool
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Reply #57 posted 03/11/09 6:57pm

RunAmok

1's whole life is not within their art
secret roots hidden deep within the heart

only closest friends verily verily know
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Reply #58 posted 03/11/09 9:32pm

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Soulstar77A said:

Aaah my favourite topic is back cool

The occult Prince - look what we've got so far:

* the symbols and numbers thing is just EVERYWHERE around his work

* The "Symbol" conists of an old alchemical (you could also say occult!) symbol for soapstone....

* the "hollow earth" theory in "The War" - Thats a very familiar theme to every reader of occult literature....

* the whole Darling Nikki (= old Nick) pact with the devil story (blackguitaristz - where are you now that we need you the most? lol

* the whole "Emacipation" is a "Pyramid" (3 sides/ same length, etc) mumb-jumbo

* Michael Jackson wrote in his autobiography (?) that P once personally gave him a package with Voodoo stuff or something like that... Can anybody please post this story again or confirm this please?

* singing lyrics like "...and if the number 13 is such a bad luck number when theres no such thing as luck - Then the berries, talons, arrows and stars are all superstitions, what the..." while showing the "illuminati" pyramid on the big screen!

* All the backward messages! Especially the one in "Darling Nikki"!

* "Theres Others Here With Us" - The song title says it all...


The list goes on and on...

So can now somebody please enlighten me with the Devil-Candle-Story please?

Never heard of it until now... sounds very promising... lol
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Reply #59 posted 03/11/09 10:32pm

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