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Thread started 05/02/04 9:22am

laylow03

The Satanic meaning behind O+->...I need your opinion...

One of the ladies at my job [who, coincidentially is a major Prince fan] sent me this. Please tell me what ya'll think:

WANT TO KNOW THE ORIGIN AND MEANING OF THE PRINCE SYMBOL??? READ ON.....

I used to have this animation on my page that breaks down the meaning or parts of the symbol..showing it as being the male/female or (anhk) and the egyptian eye ( Udjat) and then i saw this site.....with the symbols.
while on the site i remembered his ear cuff with the moon and star (diana and lucifer) and found it here too....

http://www.exposingsatani...ymbols.htm


the other things that struck me while on this site too, was his face on the cd for the rainbow children being distorted to the the shape of the goat in
the baphomet a satanic symbol....i put them right next to eachother and its very clear that was the meaning of him distorting his face on the cd to this shape.

so then i started to seek further for information (although this wouldof been enoughfor me to not want to have thissymbol in my possesion at all from this point in what i saw, but i still wanted to have a stronger foundation in knowledge and about it all being
true. so a member of a prince yahoo group lead me here..in explanation of the origin of the symbol

http://www.navel.com/memb...age_05.htm


this very clearly shows that part of his symbol is the soapstone shown on this
site originating as a symbol in alchemy , this with the ankh makes up the symbol.

i needed to know what soapstone meant, and stood for because just knowing that it was soapstone was not enough

so then i searched for soapstone/symbols and the only thing i could come up
with was alot of witchcraft/demonic sites ...seems they use alot of soapstone for various things, as if it has some meaning to them as well..then i stumbled on this....

this site is from a prince fan`s point of view...but interesting what she says about
alchemy and the soapstone...
http://www.prince3922.fre.../rune.html

the most important part of this site to me being this paragraph (the meaning of the soapstone)
because that is what i need to know the origin of this symbol
and its meaning.

"The substance Soapstone is compacted talc,and as an elixir it was believed it
could help to cross "the veil of dimensions",
"Together we`ll love through all space and time"-7,1992."

Now if you are a believer in the Lord , and the Bible, do i need to tell you what crossing the veil of
dimensions mean??? or could mean??? i mean dimensions to where? the spirit world? the after life? astro plane??? i mean i dont have to tell you its all out there in witchcraft and satanic worship...this is what they do. The
key is it CLEARLY states in the Bible we are not to seek any other
dimensions!!! OF ANY KIND.

so then i go to this site another person referred me too, this site is
very very long..but if you scrolldown it talks about the symbol its meaning, origin and even his possible religion

http://216.239.53.100/sea...n&ie=UTF-8

(i just checked and that site is down now, which really sucks, cause there was lots of info there, maybe it will work again later )


did you know there was a religion called the Golden dawn?? Im wondering if that might be why he says may you live to see the dawn?? welcome to the dawn, playground for the new power generation???? and the whole Gold ablum, etc...too many coincidences to be a coincidence to me. prince is far too calculated to not know what he is doing. there are many many questionable things about him, heard in his music etc, far too much to put on this page though. all peices of a puzzle that when you put them all together all point in the same direction. despite all the other confusing stuff that seems "good" these things should be kept in mind . God does not bring confusion.

well here it is, what seems to be his religion.....
http://www.golden-dawn.org/

this is just one site i went to, but guess what? it too has its origin in
alchemy...soooo you tell me??? i dont think i can just close my eyes to what seems to be the
obvious anyomore...ill leave it at that. look into it all for yourselves , im not here to convince anyone. search for yourselves,
ask for yourselves...it all depends on where your own beliefs are and what your comfortable with. and im just not comfortable with it thats just my personal choice, according to my faith and beliefs! everybody has the right to seek and ask and find what
they believe is true for them. decide for yourselves. I personally have made the decision to have nothing to do with this symbol, i will not have it in my possesion at all whatsoever. I dont want anything in my possession or home that represents crossing the veil to other demensions.

by the way just for your futher information. this soapstone is also knownas the philosphers stone, or the sorcerer`s stone of "harry potter" which is clearly about witchcraft/sorcery etc

WHAT RELIGION A MAN PROFESSES WITH HIS MOUTH HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH WHATS IN HIS HEART!!

please dont bite my head off if you love prince, i love him too, just sharing information i found and my personal beliefs...

its not my place to judge where he was, or is, or will be in his heart with God, but i did want to know the meaning and origin of the symbol and i found it.
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Reply #1 posted 05/02/04 9:25am

Handclapsfinga
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think any deeper and you'll fall through straight to china.
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Reply #2 posted 05/02/04 9:27am

laylow03

It's NOT me! It's the person who sent this to me. I just wanted an opinion...
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Reply #3 posted 05/02/04 9:27am

Handclapsfinga
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laylow03 said:

It's NOT me! It's the person who sent this to me. I just wanted an opinion...

tell whoever came up with that crap what i just said, then.
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Reply #4 posted 05/02/04 9:28am

TheRealFiness

yawn
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Reply #5 posted 05/02/04 9:29am

Anxiety

IT'S ALL TRUE IT'S ALL TRUE IT'S ALL TRUE!!!!

It's the apocalypse. Again. sigh


I'd go hide under my couch BUT I CAN'T FIT!!!! AAAAGHHH!!!!
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Reply #6 posted 05/02/04 9:29am

Handclapsfinga
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TheRealFiness said:

yawn

quit it, you gonna make me start yawnin....lol
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Reply #7 posted 05/02/04 9:36am

Anxiety



Prince is a devil doll. The prophecy has been fulfilled. Mentos is the Freshmaker.
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Reply #8 posted 05/02/04 9:37am

ultrraviolette

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Anxiety said:



Prince is a devil doll. The prophecy has been fulfilled. Mentos is the Freshmaker.

falloff
...:...Must I become naked?
No image at all?
Shall I remain upright?
Or get down and crawl?...:...
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Reply #9 posted 05/02/04 9:40am

EvilWhiteMale

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We could only be so lucky for Prince to get a little darker.
"You need people like me so you can point your fuckin' fingers and say, "That's the bad guy." "

Al Pacino- Scarface
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Reply #10 posted 05/02/04 9:55am

Anxiety

Who's Satan?
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Reply #11 posted 05/02/04 10:00am

BorisFishpaw

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See what you want to see, and believe what you want to believe.
But the truth is rarely as exciting as your imagination.
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Reply #12 posted 05/02/04 10:30am

forluvsxy

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Tell them most of the Christian holidays and traditions are based on Pagen stuff. Nearly everything in life is based on something else. And as gods go the Christian god is fairly new to the scene. It's not what it might have been based on so much as what it means now and what you believe. I could own a pentagram but unless I were to believe in its power and use it I see no harm in owning it.

And as my Dr once said.. "You can find just about anything you want to find on the internet.. if you look hard enough you'll find a site made by someone who will publish the exact words you're looking for."
-- Just another Prince lovin, VW drivin, SuperMommy wannabe
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Reply #13 posted 05/02/04 11:40am

thepurpleaxxe

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and the doves were used for good in the bible so when doves cry is the theme for the anti-christ. funny i always pictured him a little taller evillol
when the melting pot stirs how we gonna take it?
when u can't tell him from her how u gonna fake it?
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Reply #14 posted 05/02/04 11:44am

lezenith

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laylow03 said:

One of the ladies at my job [who, coincidentially is a major Prince fan] sent me this. Please tell me what ya'll think:

WANT TO KNOW THE ORIGIN AND MEANING OF THE PRINCE SYMBOL??? READ ON.....

I used to have this animation on my page that breaks down the meaning or parts of the symbol..showing it as being the male/female or (anhk) and the egyptian eye ( Udjat) and then i saw this site.....with the symbols.
while on the site i remembered his ear cuff with the moon and star (diana and lucifer) and found it here too....

http://www.exposingsatani...ymbols.htm


the other things that struck me while on this site too, was his face on the cd for the rainbow children being distorted to the the shape of the goat in
the baphomet a satanic symbol....i put them right next to eachother and its very clear that was the meaning of him distorting his face on the cd to this shape.

so then i started to seek further for information (although this wouldof been enoughfor me to not want to have thissymbol in my possesion at all from this point in what i saw, but i still wanted to have a stronger foundation in knowledge and about it all being
true. so a member of a prince yahoo group lead me here..in explanation of the origin of the symbol

http://www.navel.com/memb...age_05.htm


this very clearly shows that part of his symbol is the soapstone shown on this
site originating as a symbol in alchemy , this with the ankh makes up the symbol.

i needed to know what soapstone meant, and stood for because just knowing that it was soapstone was not enough

so then i searched for soapstone/symbols and the only thing i could come up
with was alot of witchcraft/demonic sites ...seems they use alot of soapstone for various things, as if it has some meaning to them as well..then i stumbled on this....

this site is from a prince fan`s point of view...but interesting what she says about
alchemy and the soapstone...
http://www.prince3922.fre.../rune.html

the most important part of this site to me being this paragraph (the meaning of the soapstone)
because that is what i need to know the origin of this symbol
and its meaning.

"The substance Soapstone is compacted talc,and as an elixir it was believed it
could help to cross "the veil of dimensions",
"Together we`ll love through all space and time"-7,1992."

Now if you are a believer in the Lord , and the Bible, do i need to tell you what crossing the veil of
dimensions mean??? or could mean??? i mean dimensions to where? the spirit world? the after life? astro plane??? i mean i dont have to tell you its all out there in witchcraft and satanic worship...this is what they do. The
key is it CLEARLY states in the Bible we are not to seek any other
dimensions!!! OF ANY KIND.

so then i go to this site another person referred me too, this site is
very very long..but if you scrolldown it talks about the symbol its meaning, origin and even his possible religion

http://216.239.53.100/sea...n&ie=UTF-8

(i just checked and that site is down now, which really sucks, cause there was lots of info there, maybe it will work again later )


did you know there was a religion called the Golden dawn?? Im wondering if that might be why he says may you live to see the dawn?? welcome to the dawn, playground for the new power generation???? and the whole Gold ablum, etc...too many coincidences to be a coincidence to me. prince is far too calculated to not know what he is doing. there are many many questionable things about him, heard in his music etc, far too much to put on this page though. all peices of a puzzle that when you put them all together all point in the same direction. despite all the other confusing stuff that seems "good" these things should be kept in mind . God does not bring confusion.

well here it is, what seems to be his religion.....
http://www.golden-dawn.org/

this is just one site i went to, but guess what? it too has its origin in
alchemy...soooo you tell me??? i dont think i can just close my eyes to what seems to be the
obvious anyomore...ill leave it at that. look into it all for yourselves , im not here to convince anyone. search for yourselves,
ask for yourselves...it all depends on where your own beliefs are and what your comfortable with. and im just not comfortable with it thats just my personal choice, according to my faith and beliefs! everybody has the right to seek and ask and find what
they believe is true for them. decide for yourselves. I personally have made the decision to have nothing to do with this symbol, i will not have it in my possesion at all whatsoever. I dont want anything in my possession or home that represents crossing the veil to other demensions.

by the way just for your futher information. this soapstone is also knownas the philosphers stone, or the sorcerer`s stone of "harry potter" which is clearly about witchcraft/sorcery etc

WHAT RELIGION A MAN PROFESSES WITH HIS MOUTH HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH WHATS IN HIS HEART!!

please dont bite my head off if you love prince, i love him too, just sharing information i found and my personal beliefs...

its not my place to judge where he was, or is, or will be in his heart with God, but i did want to know the meaning and origin of the symbol and i found it.

LOVE IS GOD, GOD IS LOVE, GIRLS & BOYS LOVES GOD ABOVE
pray cloud9 pray .cloud9: pray cloud9 pray cloud9 pray cloud9
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Reply #15 posted 05/02/04 11:56am

langebleu

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I've given this thread considerable thought, and on balance, like everyone else, I think it's all bollocks.

Honestly, no malice intended. I just can't say it politely like Boris did.
.
ALT+PLS+RTN: Pure as a pane of ice. It's a gift.
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Reply #16 posted 05/02/04 12:02pm

SynthiaRose

Ah...

I enjoyed reading this LayLow03 ... because it reminded me of my youth.

YOu don't know how many symbol/interpretation/withcraft books I checked out of the library to study Prince album covers and lyrics.

I was in the middle school and high school and analyzed everything Prince, from the hand over the heart for Lovesexy to the words on the Purple Rain vinyl album cover to just what he meant by saying "May you Live to See the Dawn." Even Purple banana was intriguing.

And remember the Thieves in the Temple video, when PRince would spin and briefly stretch his arms out in the form of a cross. My friend Rodney and I debated that for weeks. He said PRince was evil. And about Lovesexy, Rodney said Anna Stesia was about Prince conjuring spirits and dancing with ghosts and that when he sings "save me jesus I've been a fool ... from now on on you I shall be wild." Rodney said the lustful way he sang "wild" showed PRince was really mocking Jesus. Man, that prince was a whole mystery world for me to decipher.

I was so scared one time, I had to start sleeping with a cross under my pillow (7th grade ... Prince Rain era of symbols)


I am not making fun of this thread. I am enthralled because it reminds me of the old fun I used to have by studying the mysticism of Prince.


As far as the links ... the last one ... with the symbol that includes the horn ... that's something I had never seen before. It certainly would seem beyond coincidence that Prince could come up with something so similar. (Maybe he is trying to tell us something!)

Although that symbol, thankfully, wasn't Satanic .. just about wanting to transcend your lower self and become "gold." This certainly parallels some PRince themes.

I like that interpretation. Whether PRince is that deep now ... I doubt it. I used to think he was really deep and had this interesting Bible of phrases and themes that gave us the dawn and the new breed and the ideas of revolution. But now he's changing lyrics and dismantling the 'Prince bible' (calling the RB children the new breed!!) and I almost forgot how much fun all that interpretation was.

This new album doesn't even have anything to interpret. So, thanks for the memories.
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Reply #17 posted 05/02/04 12:25pm

HiinEnkelte

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ok laylow03, you've blown his cover.
the anti-christ is alive and he lives in minneapolis!

prince (six letters)
rogers (six letters)
nelson (six letters)

6-6-6
shiiit! ah!

1999 upside down is 6661
shiit! ahh!

Antichrist or Messiah? and what about MJ?
and is SynthiaRose still eating starfish everyday? cuz that can't be healthy.
Welcome to the New World Odor and
the Mythmaking Moonbattery of Obamanation.

Chains We Can Bereave In

LIBERALISM IS A CONSPIRACY THEORY
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Reply #18 posted 05/02/04 12:41pm

SynthiaRose

smile

Hiin, you know when you were younger you were doing your interpretations too!
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Reply #19 posted 05/02/04 1:41pm

HiinEnkelte

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SynthiaRose said:

smile

Hiin, you know when you were younger you were doing your interpretations too!


yeah, i was!!

i still think he's the messiah, and he's here to reign triumphant only after the final confrontation in the battle of armageddon with larry graham wink

may we all live to see the dawn!

and although i hear the acoustic version of the dawn is already here,
i'm still waiting for the full throttle plugged in version...
Welcome to the New World Odor and
the Mythmaking Moonbattery of Obamanation.

Chains We Can Bereave In

LIBERALISM IS A CONSPIRACY THEORY
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Reply #20 posted 05/02/04 1:47pm

TipN4U

Since man has begun to form the intelligence to create fear there has allways been a FACTOR in the whole satanic "FEAR" scene: from superimposed movies of what SATAN actually is and/or Lucifer and or * * * I will state this simply, that MANKIND made fear and invented the FEAR and ANGER within themselves to be swayed in the intellect. Satan, tho angels xhist, may just might be given unconditional love and left alone simply by the Judgement of the father/creator IAH of all. In representation of love... to persecute any human in any form goes against the "grain" of "HE WHO HAS NOT SINNED CAST THE FIRST STONE" to which we all have sinned (including myself). Simply put, in retrobution to a form of witch hunt or otherwise, let us all live in love and let our actions EVEN IN THOUGHT (are a sin)... be forgiving on all accounts of any thing we wish not to be done unto us. You can break down every form of Positive and or Negative Polarity in anyones life and call it SATAN... we must be accountable for our own actions to WITHSTAND the trials and tribulations within it. Let Prince Rogers Nelson live his life, as he has not harmed you or "eye" with any type of convictions. And you will live a more peaceful life just enjoying the act of being alive to be able to share... each other in love forever.

Thank you kindly (read again if need be)
GODBLISS
SingMia
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Reply #21 posted 05/02/04 2:00pm

RupacShakur

Prince- Satanic no.BUT!!!!! I gotta story to tell. Teri Copley the former wife of Micki Free and now born again christian gave me several accounts of her dealings with Prince. I'm quoting her by saying "He's evil".Many stories about Prince during the China Club days that would make all the hardcore fans do an about face.But I had a conversation with her around the time that Prince and Mayte lost their child and I asked her what she thought about it.Quoting her, she said that "Prince has demons in his family". And she wasn't talking about demons as in the exorcist etc... She was talking about family blood lines that go back thousands and thousands of years where they are traceable to evil doers throughout history.She said that baby was an abomination and that God would not it walk the earth, hence if Prince would have let it live his "secret" would have been out. There's more but I'll have to get back at y'all.
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Reply #22 posted 05/02/04 2:03pm

NEWPOWERBABY

From my studies I've read the son of the Anti Christ would be of European decent. So if the son of the Anti Christ was here, he'd be somewhere in Rome. Something to think about it.
[This message was edited Sun May 2 14:05:15 2004 by NEWPOWERBABY]
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Reply #23 posted 05/02/04 2:09pm

NEWPOWERBABY

NEWPOWERBABY said:

From my studies I've read the son of the Anti Christ would be of European decent. So if the son of the Anti Christ was here, he'd be somewhere in Rome. Something to think about it.
[This message was edited Sun May 2 14:05:15 2004 by NEWPOWERBABY]

that's why my grandmother would always say "them white devils" lol
[This message was edited Sun May 2 14:10:13 2004 by NEWPOWERBABY]
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Reply #24 posted 05/02/04 2:12pm

stayyoung

Wait a minute... Reality check...

WHO CARES?!

personally i live in England and our attitude towards satanists (along with gays, drugs, and black people) is much more of a 'so what?' kind of argument... personally i don't care enough about god to be bothered with satan and if prince likes all that then fair play to him.

What if all the american people stopped bothering about religion? do you think they might stop shooting each other aswell then??? WOAH... radical thought there...

all that pagan stuff is cool though, my girlfriend's a white witch and it's kinda fascinating in a morbid sort of way. Why do we need god when we've got people instead?

and who cares if prince worships the morning star biggrin
[This message was edited Sun May 2 14:13:13 2004 by stayyoung]
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Reply #25 posted 05/02/04 2:34pm

mentalist

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stayyoung said:

Wait a minute... Reality check...

WHO CARES?!

personally i live in England and our attitude towards satanists (along with gays, drugs, and black people) is much more of a 'so what?' kind of argument... personally i don't care enough about god to be bothered with satan and if prince likes all that then fair play to him.

What if all the american people stopped bothering about religion? do you think they might stop shooting each other aswell then??? WOAH... radical thought there...

all that pagan stuff is cool though, my girlfriend's a white witch and it's kinda fascinating in a morbid sort of way. Why do we need god when we've got people instead?

and who cares if prince worships the morning star biggrin
[This message was edited Sun May 2 14:13:13 2004 by stayyoung]


Well said!

If you try hard enough you can associate most things together.

Free your mind!
Life's a Parade! LoveLife, LoveSexy!
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Reply #26 posted 05/02/04 2:52pm

KoolEaze

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I think Prince just reads a lot and knows how let this flow into his mystique. Does anyone remember that article in the late 90´s ?? It was on some website and the headline was AND HE´S EVIL, too.
" I´d rather be a stank ass hoe because I´m not stupid. Oh my goodness! I got more drugs! I´m always funny dude...I´m hilarious! Are we gonna smoke?"
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Reply #27 posted 05/02/04 2:58pm

Starmist7

...you guys are raising a lot of questions...hmm
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Reply #28 posted 05/02/04 3:23pm

EvilWhiteMale

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NEWPOWERBABY said:



that's why my grandmother would always say "them white devils" lol

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That makes me sad. sad
"You need people like me so you can point your fuckin' fingers and say, "That's the bad guy." "

Al Pacino- Scarface
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Reply #29 posted 05/02/04 3:40pm

SassyBritches

hey, i think prince is aware of enough spiritual things for at least half of that stuff to not be coincidence. now, what his intentions were and what we read into it could be two different things. but, honestly, i think they are all valid questions. after all, he proclaims to be a jehovah's witness but he doesn't really represent himself as one...i mean, i heard him saying some nasty things at his shows.

my suggestion is to listen to the music and lyrics and not worry about the other stuff.
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