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Thread started 12/03/02 3:14pm

2the9s

Self-Reliance

Anybody notice the quotation from Ralph Waldo Emerson in the ONA Live booklet?:

...the virtue in most request in society is conformity. It loves not realities and creators, but names and customs. Whoso would be a man must be a nonconformist. Nothing is at last sacred but the integrity of your own mind.


The unabridged quotation from Emerson's 1841 essay "Self-Reliance is as follows:

The virtue in most request is conformity. Self-reliance is its aversion. It loves not realities and creators, but names and customs.

Whoso would be a man must be a nonconformist. He who would gather immortal palms must not be hindered by the name of goodness, but must explore if it be goodness. Nothing is at last sacred but the integrity of your own mind.


Here's a link for the entire essay:

http://www.emersoncentral...liance.htm

Emerson's Transcendentalism is a philosophy of life that gives priority to the internal resources of the individual and to the intuition of the divine. Experience alone is not the way to verify truth. It is also a movement, or set of ideas, that was viruently ant-institutional, beginning as it did as a quarrel within the Unitarian church in the mid-nineteenth century. It was also receptive to docrtines and vocabulary borrowed from occult litrature -- and therefore to charges of obscurantism as well. (How can you prove what can only be intuited?)

I think we can see how this way of thinking would be important to Prince; but what do we make of this reliance on the individual based on previous statements that he has made about obedience and "in-divide-you-all" or whatever that was? Or theocratic orders? Is this a detour or a further clarification?

Why Emerson? He was strongly against war, although he saw the civil war as a just retribution for the evils of slavery.

Another interesting quotation from "Self-Reliance" that I think also applies to P.:

In every work of genius we recognize our own rejected thoughts: they come back to us with a certain alienated majesty. Great works of art have no more affecting lesson for us than this. They teach us to abide by our spontaneous impression with good-humored inflexibility then most when the whole cry of voices is on the other side.
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Reply #1 posted 12/03/02 3:48pm

NuPwrSoul

2the9s said:

what do we make of this reliance on the individual


It means I'm gonna have to rely on my own damn self to get the CD.

Where da hell is UPS?!?!?! mad mad
"That...magic, the start of something revolutionary-the Minneapolis Sound, we should cherish it and not punish prince for not being able to replicate it."-Dreamshaman32
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Reply #2 posted 12/03/02 3:53pm

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NuPwrSoul said:

2the9s said:

what do we make of this reliance on the individual


It means I'm gonna have to rely on my own damn self to get the CD.

Where da hell is UPS?!?!?! mad mad

evillol
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Reply #3 posted 12/03/02 3:55pm

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interesting point!

me, i haven't been able to reconcile prince's individualistic tendencies with his adherence to the tenets of the JW doctrine.

can't see how he'd ever wholeheartedly embrace those teachings
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Reply #4 posted 12/03/02 3:56pm

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XxAxX said:

interesting point!

me, i haven't been able to reconcile prince's individualistic tendencies with his adherence to the tenets of the JW doctrine.

can't see how he'd ever wholeheartedly embrace those teachings

me, i think he's pretty much a jw by association...



...but i swear, if the brotha ends up ringin my doorbell...evillol
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Reply #5 posted 12/03/02 4:01pm

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PlastikLuvAffair said:

XxAxX said:

interesting point!

me, i haven't been able to reconcile prince's individualistic tendencies with his adherence to the tenets of the JW doctrine.

can't see how he'd ever wholeheartedly embrace those teachings

me, i think he's pretty much a jw by association...



...but i swear, if the brotha ends up ringin my doorbell...evillol



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