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PrintableIt is a good album not one of my tops but it does make its way to my CD player at least once every 2 months...everytime I pick up a little something I did't hear b4...then recently last fall I sat over at the park with it on headphones and wow....the combination of that album and the sunrise set the stage for my whole day! | |
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I love it
I know very little about the JWs and any reference to them in thus album happily flies over my head it's quite rich I can#t listen to it that often. possibly his most important work to date  small circles, big wheels!
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as far as i'm concerned, TRC is the only listenable Prince album he's done in the last 10 years or so. it's not even CLOSE. musically it's the album i'd been waiting for him to do, probably since the "symbol" album. i think way too much attention was given to the lyrics. seriously, Prince in my mind was never that great of a lyricist to begin with.
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The only tracks i listen to are :
- Muse 2 The Paraoh - The Work, Pt. 1 - Everywhere - 1+1+1 Is 3 - The Everlasting Now The strange voice bothers me...  | |
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Accujack said: This album is easily in my top five.
I love its depth musically and lyrically. People seem to always have two issues with the album. One being the dreaded "Darth Vader voice", yet I never hear people having a problem with it being used on All My Dreams. The other problem being the JW influenced lyrics. "I can't relate to those lyrics" is a common gripe I hear from folks who dislike The Rainbow Children. Well, I can't relate to the lyrics of Sister, but it doesn't diminish my love for it. You're speaking the truth right there, especially the examples you put up there. I dig The Rainbow Children. It's a great piece of work that just flows from start to finish. To me, it was his 1st consistant piece of work since, I'd say The Gold Experience. I admit, I have to be in the mood to hear this CD and it's not in my Top 10 Prince CD's but it's in my Top 15. Where lyrics are concerned, I'm a Christian and they don't bother me at all, even though I don't go along with JW or the JW parts of some songs. Plus, I view it as a story. Like listening to a book on CD with music. I don't take the words seriously at all. It's worked for me for over 7 years so far and I think it'll work another 7 for me. 
Real music for real music lover!  I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that | |
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xpertluva said: Am I the only one who has grown to like the so called "Vader" voice? For me, it adds a cohesiveness to the album. The only qualm I have with it is that it only makes sense in the context of TRC and isn't at all condusive to mixing those songs with others.
It doesn't bother me at all. It's just a narrator with a VERY deep voice to me. No more and no less. I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that | |
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NouveauDance said: Accujack said: This album is easily in my top five.
I love its depth musically and lyrically. People seem to always have two issues with the album. One being the dreaded "Darth Vader voice", yet I never hear people having a problem with it being used on All My Dreams. The other problem being the JW influenced lyrics. "I can't relate to those lyrics" is a common gripe I hear from folks who dislike The Rainbow Children. Well, I can't relate to the lyrics of Sister, but it doesn't diminish my love for it. I hear that. me too Stand Up! Everybody, this is your life!
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I admit the lyrics are a bit "off" or "jumbled", especially in everlasting now with him singing "accurate knowledge of christ and the father will bring the everlasting now"....but the music just blows me away....it is his best concept album,musically.....right up there with Lovesexy...actually ahead of Lovesexy---music wise. Stand Up! Everybody, this is your life!
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tricky99 said: U don't have to like TRC but I hope all prince fans can see the genuis is the work. If u can't I think your mind just isn't ready/open to it. I really don't get all the angst about the lyrics. Its a fasinating look into prince's mind as he cryptically lays out his life journey. TRC is about religion, race, and love. All very fasinating topics. U shouldn't have to agree with his point of view to enjoy it.
TRC is a heavy album and something that heavy probably shouldn't be treated like any ole pop record. Its very fine wine to be savored and drunk sparingly. I totally agree with you on that  I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that | |
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It's the most provocative album he's ever done. | |
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xpertluva said: Am I the only one who has grown to like the so called "Vader" voice? For me, it adds a cohesiveness to the album. The only qualm I have with it is that it only makes sense in the context of TRC and isn't at all condusive to mixing those songs with others.
No you're not. I like it, and it fits perfectly within the theme and the "story". I don't get the opposition at all, since he's used that voice on several recordings in the past. I think it's because of WHAT he's saying. 'The Rainbow Children' is one of the most powerful albums he's done... musically, rhythmically, lyrically... it is STUNNING. The cohesiveness and flow of the songs is PERFECT, even though there is also diversity. WELL recorded... sounds full and warm, like 2" tape. In fact, it was recorded 2 tape, before mastering in the digital realm. "He's a musician's musician..." |
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Accujack said: This album is easily in my top five.
I love its depth musically and lyrically. People seem to always have two issues with the album. One being the dreaded "Darth Vader voice", yet I never hear people having a problem with it being used on All My Dreams. or on bob george, exodus etc ...man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81 | |
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purplecorvette1 said: MRGee said: Sorry you feel this way cause it's like my FAVORITE PRINCE album. I get OVERCOME by the INTENSITY of Feeling and EMOTION displayed in such a Wonderful ENORMOUSLY PLEASUREABLE PIECE of SHEER GENIUS! I would play this cd over and over again and actually Cry Collapse from feeling Spent and also Feeling PRINCE....
I agree I love this album, I hope Prince doe's more like this in the future, it's amazing, he can sing type of music, I love all the tracks. I especially love The Sensual Everafter, only problem with that song is it's not long enough, it's the sort of music that should go on for at least 10 minutes, I have to keep it on repeat. HELL YEAH!! i love this track and everything on this album. it took a while 2 get in2 but once i opened up my mind and related it 2 things that were going on in my life at that time..i discovered the genius and beauty of this album. 4 all that so called "dogma of the JW faith", again this is prince's testimony not ur's. and if u r a spiritual person, u can find what u may need 2 help u get through.  man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81 | |
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missjay23 said: The only tracks i listen to are :
- Muse 2 The Paraoh - The Work, Pt. 1 - Everywhere - 1+1+1 Is 3 - The Everlasting Now The strange voice bothers me... lol.....one of Prince's top 5 projects. | |
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i love everything about this album, not one bad thing about it! 2 Corinthians 4:18 "While we keep our eyes, not on the things seen, but on the things unseen. For the things seen are temporary, but the things unseen are everlasting." | |
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I'm glad it resonates with so many people. Gives me a broader understanding of it, and while it's not ever going to be one of my favorites, I can appreciate it. Especially the innovation and the musicality.
And Last December *is* a great song. So is 1+1+1=3. I wanna be loved to the 9s, so let me cover your ass with this sheet, and baby, you better stay on the beat! Cause you know the Karma Sutra? I can rewrite it. But, with half as many words. | |
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another person here who admires the work of TRC album  | |
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I remember when I first got this album, even though I felt it immediately, it took awhile for me to absorb. The more I listened the more I got. Which is the truth for me when it comes to most of P's music anyway. "aint no room to disagree...1+1+1 is 3"  I love it when he sings with such conviction!  | |
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I think it warrants another listen when I get home. But my main beef with it was all the religious babble on it. Prince bascially informing me that if I don't follow this train of thought, I'm lost.
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I bought 2 copies of this, because I think it will be hard to find later on.
Which makes me wonder: how many other current artists have out-of-print, hard-to-find, or Internet-only albums (even though TRC is not all that hard to find right now)? For example: the majority of his late 1990s/early 2000s work is Internet-only (Slaughterhouse, The Chocolate Invasion, Xpectation, CNote) or fanclub-only (ONA, Rave In2). |
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Hi Bleutuna,
Firstly I don't agree with your opinion that most of us don't like TRC. I for one think it's a great album like so many others...maybe it is the least played of all his albums, if a poll was taken but still doesn't mean its bad. I still don't get what you mean by the message getting in the way of his singing! Suggest you go back to listening to The gold Experience! I heard the rip when you sat down! | |
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After watching ONA NYC again, and since becoming a member of this board I've seen so many people defending it, I'm going to give TRC another chance out of respect for our friend. | |
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This album was one of his materpieces. Peep the instrumentation the musicianship and writing on all of it was mad deep. Straight up quality and inspired music is rare yo.  | |
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I absolutely love The Rainbow Children.At first took me by surprise but I loved it. It's one of my favorite albums from the 2000's period so far. Some people think I'm kinda cute
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tricky99 said: U don't have to like TRC but I hope all prince fans can see the genuis is the work. If u can't I think your mind just isn't ready/open to it. I really don't get all the angst about the lyrics. Its a fasinating look into prince's mind as he cryptically lays out his life journey. TRC is about religion, race, and love. All very fasinating topics. U shouldn't have to agree with his point of view to enjoy it.
TRC is a heavy album and something that heavy probably shouldn't be treated like any ole pop record. Its very fine wine to be savored and drunk sparingly. Very nice tricky  I love how u described TRC. I totally love this CD, not at first but after joining this site and constantly listening 2 the different treads on this cd, I had 2 give it another try. I kept playing it but did not get it, then one day, it was like I heard this CD 4 the first time, and have not stopped listening 2 it. It is such a beautiful CD that makes me happy inside. It is truly a feel good beautifully crafted masterpiece. It's a work of art, written, arranged, played and song by a genius | |
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I like it a lot, but its lyrics really are a bit overbearing at times. It's okay when he's talking about loving God, but when he specifies certain archaic JW beliefs like the theocratic order, it becomes tough to enjoy the song anymore.
I'm also still a bit uneasy with the nearly anti-semitic tone of Muse and Family Name. It's so funny though. Anyone who's been on the org for a while knows that the easiest way to start a hot thread is to start a debate about TRC. It'll always be Prince's most polarizing album. [Edited 1/13/09 21:47pm] The world is a comedy for those who think and a tragedy for those who feel.
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PurpleKnight said: I like it a lot, but its lyrics really are a bit overbearing at times. It's okay when he's talking about loving God, but when he specifies certain archaic JW beliefs like the theocratic order, it becomes tough to enjoy the song anymore.
Simple suggestion ....do not try to enjoy it just pass on it. I'm also still a bit uneasy with the nearly anti-semitic tone of Muse and Family Name. How can it have a "nearly anti-semitic tone" either it does or it does not. It's so funny though. Anyone who's been on the org for a while knows that the easiest way to start a hot thread is to start a debate about TRC. It'll always be Prince's most polarizing album. Ainthatthetruth. [Edited 1/13/09 21:47pm] |
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PurpleKnight said: I like it a lot, but its lyrics really are a bit overbearing at times. It's okay when he's talking about loving God, but when he specifies certain archaic JW beliefs like the theocratic order, it becomes tough to enjoy the song anymore.
I'm also still a bit uneasy with the nearly anti-semitic tone of Muse and Family Name. It's so funny though. Anyone who's been on the org for a while knows that the easiest way to start a hot thread is to start a debate about TRC. It'll always be Prince's most polarizing album. [Edited 1/13/09 21:47pm] just a question..i do not know ur religious beliefs at all, or ur true outlook on the world as a whole, but do u feel that if u took a listen 2 the songs without ur belief system or even with ur system intact, that the lyrics really have that much effect on u enjoying the music? man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81 | |
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I think that maybe he should have released 2 versions. The Darth Vader and Non Darth Vader versions. 'Cause the music is great and it would easily make it into my top 5 if it wasn't for Darth. | |
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bleutuna said: I do not like The Rainbow Children.
Wow, crazy stance, huh? Yes, I realize MOST of us don't like The Rainbow Children. However, I have to defend it because, no matter how painful the lyrics may be to those of us not in the mood to be preached at (and I'll never be in the mood to be preached at by the author of Darling Nikki or Sister), the idea of creating a Gospel album that's built off of Jazz, rather than typical Gospel instrumentation, is sort of amazing. Maybe there's been another Jazz gospel album before? Maybe one better? I won't profess to knowing. All I can think is that whatever crazy thought popped up in Prince's head to make that album Jazz is a testament to his ingenuity and his creativity. Even if the only song I can really stomach to is 'Last December.' [Edited 1/12/09 15:18pm] [Edited 1/12/09 15:18pm] Wonderful album. I never tire of listening to it. I stopped taking too much interest in what P was saying a long time ago, but whatever I might thing personally of the JWs, he was more inspired here than for many years before and since. Darth is cool with me too. Incidentally it it the album that most of my non prince fan friends (all my friends basically) asks for a copy of when I slip it on whilst they're not looking. | |
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