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Reply #30 posted 12/29/08 1:19pm

Genesia

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Flo6 said:

I don't know... Some parts of 'Pheromone' [Come album] seems to be, at least thematically and imagery-wise, to be lifted straight out of the Song of Songs from the Old Testament - but then, I would call that inspiration.


Solomon made somebody hold a pistol to his nose while he masturbated? eek

Geez...I gotta read the Bible one of these days. Look what I've been missing all these years!
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Reply #31 posted 12/29/08 1:21pm

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There is somewhat a similar melodyline in the chorus of the Italian track, but imo a stretch to call this pure plagiarism.
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Reply #32 posted 12/29/08 1:36pm

vegasE

Shango said:

There is somewhat a similar melodyline in the chorus of the Italian track, but imo a stretch to call this pure plagiarism.


I agree. Similar melody line but different harmony.
It would be really sad to know that Prince is listening to that trashy 80's crap. Think about what he was producing in '83!
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Reply #33 posted 12/29/08 1:56pm

JOYJOY

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Shango said:

x-ackly ... strange.
Check the track in the eBay-link below.
When i heard it, i was like hmm confuse shrug
Scroll in the link to this mediaplayer :



http://cgi.ebay.com/RAYNA...240%3A1318


Thanks for posting this link... I can just hear a similarity... but cannot fathom how they proved Plagarism? eek
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Reply #34 posted 12/29/08 2:13pm

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Not!!!! where do you get convicted of plagiarism?!?
Would never stand up in any court.
agree somewhat (STRETCH) similar melody, but no confused
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Reply #35 posted 12/29/08 2:16pm

Shango

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vegasE said:


I agree. Similar melody line but different harmony.
It would be really sad to know that Prince is listening to that trashy 80's crap. Think about what he was producing in '83!

Ackzackly ! dancing jig

JOYJOY said:


Thanks for posting this link... I can just hear a similarity... but cannot fathom how they proved Plagarism? eek

You're welcome, and yeah, i'm also curious how that case will go.
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Reply #36 posted 12/29/08 4:13pm

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Damn! This reminds me of the stuff I saw on youtube about Led Zeppelin plagiarizing blues songs. It also reminds me of when I heard Betty Davis' song F.U.N.K. (right after hearing and buying Prince's version of the song.) If it's true, and word gets out, I think it will spell the beginning of the end for the Purple One.

But it's really hard to tell who really wrote some of the songs that made Prince famous (whether or not Andre or Dez wrote this song or that song...), so at this point, what really matters to me is the songs themselves.

I'm just sayin', nothing more... But maybe there's more to be said (non-disclosure arguments, etc.)
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Reply #37 posted 12/29/08 4:20pm

SEXYMF2002

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Garbage as usual..
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Reply #38 posted 12/29/08 4:25pm

lezama

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Shango said:

HotPaisleyGirl said:

Why has this taken 15 years? confused

x-ackly ... strange.
Check the track in the eBay-link below.
When i heard it, i was like hmm confuse shrug
Scroll in the link to this mediaplayer :



http://cgi.ebay.com/RAYNA...240%3A1318


Thats the biggest crock of shite case of "plagiarism" I've ever heard of. But then again, everyone knows the Italian legal system isn't the most advanced in the world.
Change it one more time..
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Reply #39 posted 12/29/08 4:48pm

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I think this can be easily settled, re release both songs and see who sells the most I know where my money would be going. I don't for a minute believe that Prince stole anyones music he has too much of his own going on. And even if the other song sounds similar I am sure that P has improved it emensely !!! beyond what any other mere mortal could.

Long live P - peace and love 2 U all xxxx


Wow, such retarded logic...

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Reply #40 posted 12/29/08 5:57pm

comegetwild

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The player on Ebay isn't working 4 me, is there anywhere else I can hear this track?

Pleeeeaaaaasssseeee. biggrin
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Reply #41 posted 12/29/08 7:43pm

cherrymoongirl

They should fine those 2 Italian dudes for coming up with the original piece of crap in the first place.
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Reply #42 posted 12/31/08 2:09am

LittleNicci

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LittleNicci said:

I think this can be easily settled, re release both songs and see who sells the most I know where my money would be going. I don't for a minute believe that Prince stole anyones music he has too much of his own going on. And even if the other song sounds similar I am sure that P has improved it emensely !!! beyond what any other mere mortal could.

Long live P - peace and love 2 U all xxxx


Wow, such retarded logic...



Whatever you may think of my "retarded logic" its still my belief and I still stand by what I said - peace and love to you xx
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Reply #43 posted 12/31/08 2:57am

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What a crock of shit!! Sure, there's a little similarity in the chorus, but jeebus, there's only 12 notes in the western musical tradition, and only so many rhythms available to you within the stardard 4/4 pop genre! When you consider just how many melodies have been published in the last 100 years, there's bound to be some similarities along the way. It's just a coincidence. Anyone with any sort of understanding of music theory can tell you that.

As I have no understanding of the Italian language, my only hope is that this whole fiasco is just a joke that's been misinterpreted by us non-Italians.
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Reply #44 posted 12/31/08 3:51am

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the two tunes sound NOTHING alike.

Prince has not plagiarized them in any way shape or form.
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Reply #45 posted 12/31/08 4:01am

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I wonder why so many think he would never copy an old song from someone else. He wrote ten 10,000 songs. How many songs did he listen to in his life? Someone with a musical midn like Prince uncounciously steals from others.
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Reply #46 posted 12/31/08 4:23am

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Shango said:

HotPaisleyGirl said:

Why has this taken 15 years? confused

x-ackly ... strange.
Check the track in the eBay-link below.
When i heard it, i was like hmm confuse shrug
Scroll in the link to this mediaplayer :



http://cgi.ebay.com/RAYNA...240%3A1318


cheers shango 4 finding this orrible song eek
now everyone can cop a listen 2 this nonsense!
this italian geezer has got a damn nerve, accusing our man of nicking his song!
WTF! he can't even sing his own song, i mean, where in heck is 'paradi'?
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Reply #47 posted 12/31/08 5:30am

Shango

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lottielooloo1968 said:


cheers shango 4 finding this orrible song eek
now everyone can cop a listen 2 this nonsense!
this italian geezer has got a damn nerve, accusing our man of nicking his song!
WTF! he can't even sing his own song, i mean, where in heck is 'paradi'?

You're welcome !
Yeah,like HotPaisleyGirl mentioned earlier that it took about 15 years for suing P ? clueless
This case might balance on shaky ground if you ask me, lol.

comegetwild said:

The player on Ebay isn't working 4 me, is there anywhere else I can hear this track?

Pleeeeaaaaasssseeee. biggrin

Here ya go music

http://uploads.mailboxdri...850133.mp3
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Reply #48 posted 12/31/08 6:10am

Mong

I can't believe that Prince has been found guilty. The similarity between the two is very tenuous.
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Reply #49 posted 12/31/08 6:47am

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i doubt prince plagiarized anything. TMBGITW is a fairly standard chord progression confused it could be mistaken for other songs with the same progression
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Reply #50 posted 12/31/08 8:55am

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i doubt prince plagiarized anything. TMBGITW is a fairly standard chord progression confused it could be mistaken for other songs with the same progression


It could be a remix to the song. That is probably where it comes from. Although I don't remember this remix on that lame remix ep. But Prince does this all the time.
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Reply #51 posted 12/31/08 9:09am

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This song sounds like the closing credits to a bad 1980s movie. smile
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Reply #52 posted 12/31/08 9:11am

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PANDURITO said:

Plagiarism!!! omfg

That's death penalty in Italy!!! sad

You made me literally lol in real life. smile
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Reply #53 posted 12/31/08 10:45am

jn2

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Man, that is sad, to steal someone elses's horrible song just to make it horrible again? Sad.

lol
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Reply #54 posted 12/31/08 10:50am

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Why has this taken 15 years? confused

EXACTLY!
-you ain't funky at all, you just a little ol' prude!
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Reply #55 posted 12/31/08 10:53am

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vegasE said:

Shango said:

There is somewhat a similar melodyline in the chorus of the Italian track, but imo a stretch to call this pure plagiarism.


I agree. Similar melody line but different harmony.
It would be really sad to know that Prince is listening to that trashy 80's crap. Think about what he was producing in '83!

Someone wanting money...
what a crock!
-you ain't funky at all, you just a little ol' prude!
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Reply #56 posted 12/31/08 12:13pm

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THERE IS SUCH A THING AS AN APPEAL!!! MY BABY GONNA BE JUST FINE. NO WORRIES.. THEM DUDES WILL BE DEAD BEFORE THIS HEADS BACK TO THAT MOCK COURTHOUSE. nod

and i take acception to the word convicted. yall make it sound like prince going to the big house to be cell mates wit don corrleone or some shit talk to the hand
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Reply #57 posted 12/31/08 1:50pm

LadyLuvSexxy

I'm sorry but this is NOT karma by any means. I'm listening to the song right now and all I can hear is like ONE instance where the tone of a line or two sounds the same. Other than that, it's bullsh*t.

"Now I'll be painting your name in the sky.." is the part that sort of sounds like a part in the song. There's nothing else and I dunno what this pair is on, but um...there are tons of songs out there that have similar tones and it's not on purpose. If that's the case, we need to get critical. If one artist uses an F sharp in a song, that means every other person after him or her should get sued down to the marrow for copying. lol

It's silly and I hope these two idiots enjoy their money while it lasts IF they get any. It never hurts to have a backup plan if your career fails. I guess they didn't. Whatever.Song kinda sucks anyway.. eek
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Reply #58 posted 12/31/08 1:56pm

Teeth

haha. ok the lead melody is the same for like 2 bars, different chord progression, this is so silly.
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Reply #59 posted 12/31/08 2:58pm

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Here is how I would judge this one. If someone placed this song in a cd player, and I had not been told of the plagerism accusation, I would not say... "Hey, that sounds just like the most beautiful girl in the world."

I think that it is just an unlikely circumstance.
We are all so full of doody here
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